Discussion Jerking off to Revenge Porn

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  1. theilikepie

    theilikepie Well-Known Member

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    Some of the comments I have seen on manuha/manwha/novels have me concerned. People such take joy in disproportionate revenge. I can imagine they get off to the thought of the MC enemies/someone who harmed them getting killed, tortured or raped.

    The revenge part is just used to hide the fact that they get off of people suffering.

    Every damm comment is "but will x character get killer and raped" even if that charatcer hasnt done anything for 200 chapters


    I was reading this manga where a whole class reincarnated and the MC had the skill to control people to do bis bidding. His classmates told him to be on his own cuase they were afraid he might abuse that power (ie rape). They didnt try to kill him or anything. Just isolation. Well MC went full edge and decided to rape all female members of his class. People were cheering that on. Its like they wish they could do that but still want a moral high ground so they paint it off as "revenge" no matter how small the first crime was.

    Honestly I have more respect for people who straight up read rapefics or gorefics. At least they dont hide behind "muh revenge so its okay"
     
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    tbh, using porn as revenge is just petty man. i know rape is morally not a great thing to do, but everyone has their own kinks so i cant judge people on it
     
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    You know this is interesting because today I was just thinking about how annoying the other extreme is. When the story tries to redeem a villian that has committed too many evil deeds to be forgivable.

    I can see how both sides can be annoying. On one hand you've got pansy edge lords who are basically waiting for the author to write a feeble enough excuse for them to go on a killing spree. You know because they're so dark and brooding, and every minor offense needs to paid back times a million.

    On the other hand you have authors who just think we'll magically forget that the protagonist new companion was a slaver who has previously kidnapped hundreds of young girls and sold them off as sex slaves. "He saw the error of his ways, give him a chance" Bullshit evil that deep don't just wash off, you think one or two good deeds instantly absolves everything?
     
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    Because they self inserted themselves into that spot where they have the power to abuse all the people who have hurt themselves similarly. They are generally damaged people, similar to Columbine shooters but without the balls.
     
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    And sometimes you see it In the same story.


    Usually the character who was a love rival to the MC is killed for breathing wrong. But then the person who killed a bunch of kids and made soup of them gets off Scott free cause there part of MCs harem
     
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    I read all of it. Both revenge, gore, rape, blackmail, all the way through, unbirth and many more

    Revenge has a different taste than (ab)normal sadistic fetish as there is a payback satisfaction there
     
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    All of those are mild compared to emotional torment! You need to read more cuckoldry! Burn that image into your retinas! See the screams a millions of children overcrowding your former beloved's baby factory!

    *cue motivational speech*

    Betrayal has always been the top sauce for any dark content. Betrayal goes so many ways, hence, the existence of villains. Betraying yourself, someone betraying you, or the reality of everything betraying your expectations. You need edge? We got them! Who needs coins anyways? Screw that two sides of the same coin, we're gonna ravage its circumference and penetrate its surface with the our bleeding edges. Grit your teeth and grind! Grind till the last drop!
     
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    I try to avoid stories with rape in them. I think there’s only one story I read where rape is used as revenge, (female MC, so she arranges the rape/lets the rape happen,) and it honestly makes me uncomfortable.
     
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    Alot of these stories are self insert stories. Mc made bland as possible so you can picture yourself as them or relate to their issues.

    So once the problem becomes relatable and revenge is executed, people just eat it up because of similar injustices occured to them.

    So it's like eh. But the more self insert stories getting popular the less awesome narratives are pushed forward.

    It sucks and I wish glorified self insert novels would die already but its fken never gonna die.

    Edit: makes it even more crazy is how extreme the story gets on revenge. Death, rape, torture, etc... people be crazy.
     
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    What really gets my goat is when the protagonist ignores intention in favor of accomplishments. Like you'll have a scene where the protagonist stops a kidnapping attempt, but decides to let the kidnapper off because "nobody actually got hurt" It is like dude do you think this is his first time doing this? Do you think roughing him up a little will make him quit for good? No that guy is gonna walk off lick his wounds, then immediately try to kidnap someone else. You might have saved this person, but letting him go just means someone else is going to suffer off screen.
     
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    I hate it when characters rape or arrange rapes for others for revenge. It's kind of weird how common it is. Well, not really. It's because people, I mean a lot of people, get off by the idea of getting the "ultimate" revenge for anything petty.

    A few even wish it on others and sometimes think that if they were that powerful, they would do the same thing, but that's only a very small minority.

    The large majority read/cheers on characters that rape/arrange rapes as they're seen as dominant and they're showing their dominance in other ways. I read a story like that where a female character, because someone was trying to kill her, she straight up drugs all of her assassins and have them rape each other until they slowly die from the poison. I cheered her on too, but that was years ago. A lot of people are desensitized, including me, that we don't take rape in stories that seriously if it's for revenge.
     
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    Oh yeah, forgot to mention netorare. The only tag where i read hentai for the plot
     
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    Ironically, majority don't read it for plot, when it's suppose to read for PLOT! I mean, who gets off with images alone? I need context, CONTEXT!
     
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    Ikr
    A hentai without conclusive end (wedding, have a baby, mindbroken) and subpar plot is just less appetizing
    One of the good hentai is Fukushuu no Uta. I have a few more but forgot the name.
     
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    Wow! I never heard of this and expected NTR, because we were talking about NTR. Instead, I found diamond covered in tar! No hard on, just a rush of feels. This is a revenge story worth reading! Thank you for sharing such a wholesome ending. I hope the protagonist lives well with his new family.

    My only issue was with the father, felt like a cop-out in the story. Still, a short sequel would be nice. At least the avenger didn't have the same ending as avengers in H stories.
     
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    Me too, bud. Hope he lives well as well, seeing the rope hanging in the last panel.

    The father have a pschological defect that makes him a heartless bastard, and live for work rather than work to live. This is the pit of despair prepared for the avenger which goal is to destroy the father life through destroying his family.

    I'm also hoping for a nice afterstory, but no news about it.
     
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    Likely not, since it's an old manga, after all.
     
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    Isolation and exile from society for no crime is not justifiable, especially when his ability could end up being of use or even necessary for their goals. (causin a large portion of your enemies forces to switch sides is not something to discard lightly)

    If it is the series I am thinking of, they also went a bit beyond just telling him to leave, and isolation. Closer to physically being exiled from society to live on his own with no resources. They basically said we do not like you, so live our life with no human contact.

    Not that he did not over react, I do think he did, but no one handled the situation anywhere close to properly there, was in the right, or held any moral high ground.So saying "Just isolation" is extreme whitewashing.

    Hell, if he isolation was justified just for having an ability, there are to many other abilities that would deserve the same level of treatment just for being possessed, like every pretty much every summoned hero cheat power, which guaranteed there were others cheats there that could also be abused to the similar levels of brokeness and societal chaos as his could, but everyone was fine with.
     
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