Spoiler I Am a Princess Responsible For Settling Circumstances

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  1. Aihi8

    Aihi8 Well-Known Member

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    I remember mtld this until it completly fried my brain.
    Apparently from what I remember, the king asked mc if she wants to become the queen and warned her that even if she does that will only bring misfortune to her due to various accidents that could happen. He did it because the previous queens were either strucked by lightning, killed in revolution or something and it apparently been big deal.
    Personally I got really annoyed at the gall of first prince since he doesn't think of the consequences that his choices make.
    I think that mc really should talk about her concerns to her fathers, cuz from the interactions I don't think they would have forced her to give up her child.
     
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  2. Rinfantasy

    Rinfantasy so much to do so little time...

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    I read this a year ago so I'm not sure I'm remembering perfectly but all this setting is Octavia's fault. When her Japanese self died the first time God asked her where she wanted to be reincarnated, she replied she wanted to live in this specific BL world, so the God had to create it from start, the problem is that a BL world like this is unnatural cause biological and political reasons so the God had to make a series of incidents and curse to guide this new world to became the exact same world of Octavia's BL novel. So Octavia is the source of all the evil... Poor Alexis is also leaving in fear because he is dreaming the memories of the first king that killed his older sister to take the throne thus he is afraid he is destined to kill Octavia but he is also filled with fighting spirit to deny his destiny because he loves Octavia
    Edit: I forgot to say, Octavia forgot the matter of her reincarnation until she met that God again
     
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  3. Rinfantasy

    Rinfantasy so much to do so little time...

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    P.S. no one is pointing out Alex hates gay people because men keep trying to rape him from when he was young because his beauty?
     
  4. Rinfantasy

    Rinfantasy so much to do so little time...

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    Ops, I forgot the God not is really a God, but a young man being part of a group of really OP supernatural people. Because a mistake in his experiments he killed the Japanese who was Octavia because this in his distorted way he granted her wish. And when I said created the world from start I mean literally: from his genesis, evolution &co for millions of years till his action created the BL setting and people for Octavia to be born
     
  5. kiara8

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    That’s way too OP
     
  6. theilikepie

    theilikepie Well-Known Member

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    She didn't really think that through. Women in BL always get the short stick. What did she think was gonna happen
     
  7. Silentstorm

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    She is the fan that just wanted to see men kissing each other and seeing her favorite story happening in front of her, she did not think things through at all.

    Anyways, didn't know that Alex had men trying to rape him multiple times, that plus him seemingly being straight probably made it way too easy to fall for his half-sister.
     
  8. KathyClysm

    KathyClysm Well-Known Member

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    This story, compared to its very chipper art style in the manga, is real effin dark... holy cow
     
  9. Shizun

    Shizun 《Jack of all trades》《Artist/Author》《Dao of BLedia》

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    What ppl might forget is that the life they are living can be compared to the past. No equality. And royalty isn't always good
     
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  10. Shizun

    Shizun 《Jack of all trades》《Artist/Author》《Dao of BLedia》

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    Who spred the rumors about mc wanting to be queen?
     
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  11. Arekushieru

    Arekushieru Well-Known Member

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    Did she say she wanted to be Octavia or did she just say she wanted to be born in this world? The guy couldn't have made her someone else I mean? After all if he's so overpowered I don't know why he couldn't have done that. And even if she did ask to be reborn as Octavia, who's to say that if she reincarnated elsewhere she wouldn't be even more unhappy. I mean what are her other options? Into a different BL book/otoge? She's a fujoshi, so most likely ALL of her stories are about BL. So there would be the same issue. Into a different world altogether? She knows even less about those worlds than she does about the BL stories she enjoys so much. Would she have been allowed to be reborn (putting aside the strictest interpretations of reincarnation, for the moment) as herself (in the past) into her original family? But what if she doesn't get along with her family? Or what if the same accident happens again? He's too overpowered for her to avoid the same fate if she went back to her original body in the past. Or rather as herself in the future? Then like every other option except being reborn into her past self's body she would have no more advantages than anyone else had making her reincarnation rather useless and moot, even more so in this case, actually. If it was as a different member of her original family then *whether or not she gets along with them she'd be so far yet so close to them at the same time that I imagine it would be very painful for her. If it was a completely unrelated family: she would have the same issues as the point I made following the *. So it seems she actually made the best choice she probably thought was available.

    As for what some other readers have said: The factions actually seem divided into those who marry women to have children and keep their gay partners as concubines while the other faction only marries the one they love like her father. Octavia is also obviously convinced that Klifford will not attack her while they're alone because, for one, as far as she is aware she is living in the world of the story she liked so much not one that simply resembles it, which makes it less likely that things will deviate all that much from the original setting (especially according to her), for two, ALL the novels she read while living in that world only have boys being molested by men, for three, she doesn't know the real reason why her escort knights kept quitting on her and, for four, when she brought him to the room where she made that pact with him she never mentioned at what age she thought he had been adopted so, if he was really young at the time, not only could that account for his noble bearing but also his inclinations (and when she learned he was a Juu, that made it more likely he was a noble before he became a commoner since it was said that the Juu population was pretty much destroyed so those who survived probably fled to neighbouring countries and BECAME commoners) so I think it's MORE reasonable for her to think she won't be attacked by him not LESS. Where are Sirius and Octavia's actual fathers? And were their mothers actually the king's sisters or some other kind of blood relative as well? Also does Alex keep interfering with her escort knights because he's afraid to lose her in general or because of that dream specifically?
     
  12. KathyClysm

    KathyClysm Well-Known Member

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    I am not sure the author has thought about this quite as much as you have, but I quite like your reasoning! I mean, really, for all she knows, this is a fictional BL world, why would she be wary if in all likelyhood the vast majority of men around her are probably gay (according to the setting).
     
  13. Rinfantasy

    Rinfantasy so much to do so little time...

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    The one that reincarnated Octavia isn't a good guy. At least for now in the novel Octavia is super suspicious of him, fear him and see him as a enemy. She didn't ask explicitly to be reincarnated as Octavia, she just wanted to be reincarnated in that story thus I think the guy chose to reincarnated her as Octavia probably to screw her over, that sadist!
    P.s. Alex is a siscom thus dream or not dream he would still glare at any guy near his dear sister LOL
     
  14. theilikepie

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    Honestly, id reincarnate her as Octavia too. The thing i notice is that these reincarnators hated/despised the OG character/villainess/mob person they reincarnated as until they themselves are in their shoes. Then its all "wahhh she was misunderstood/her life was so unfair". Like she thought that Octavia was such a good girl for being an incubator for her bother, and has no ambitions of her own till she got reincarnated as her. That's when she started noticing the system was unfair. It's like slapping them in the face with a little sympathy/empathy

    Who did she want to be reincarnated as though? if she was a commoner she couldn't have seen the main couple getting it on (which i guess was one of her one goals for choosing that world). The only woman close to the main couple was Octavia. Did she want to be reborn as a guy?
     
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  15. Rinfantasy

    Rinfantasy so much to do so little time...

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    I can't remember honestly but I think she didn't specified who she wanted to be. But I can be wrong and maybe she did ask to be Octavia after all? It passed a year for me, Maybe someone will MTL it and correct me LOL
     
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  16. lazynoodles

    lazynoodles Softie for Villainess & BL

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    She could have reincarnated as a maid in the palace and then have a front row seat to all the BL affairs.
     
  17. KathyClysm

    KathyClysm Well-Known Member

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    That would have been perfect for her, too, seeing how apparently commoners tend to be in heterosexual relationships (and I'd assume a maid is a commoner)
     
  18. Arekushieru

    Arekushieru Well-Known Member

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    Well considering that a lot of the world building and politicizing seems to be directed at exposing the vicious underbelly of fujoshi fetishism (re: using one marginalized population - gay men - to explore beyond the limits and restrictions placed on another marginalized population - women), as quite a few other members have suggested, and a lot of thought seems to be put into exploring how the mechanisms of reincarnation and fictional worlds can intersect, I wouldn't put it passed the author to delve into the subject of inherent personality and character traits as deeply as the rest.

    So that would mean I was correct in guessing that Octavia didn't choose to be Octavia from the game because she thought that Octavia had such an awesome life. I also thought this OP guy wasn't as good as he seemed since an experiment that could accidentally kill a human often turn out to be used for more nefarious purposes. And about Alex, I thought so!

    Just one last note then I'll 'sign off' from here again:

    This was a different Octavia with different life experiences and goals. In the original story Octavia was written as if she willingly chose to become an 'incubator' for her brother's children. There was no background to imply that she was groomed to think this way like there is in the current storyline. In the former case it sounds like she became more of a surrogate than an incubator. That is also probably one of the biggest hints that this world and the original story are actually quite different. I mean when I read our Octavia mentioning that the original Octavia provided a solution to the problem of heirs in the previous storyline she made it sound like that was the first time that solution had ever been suggested. But now we're reading about factions where this has taken place numerous times? So it was quite jarring. And, rinfantasy, your spoilers now make a lot more sense out of that.
     
  19. Purplerules

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    Please more spoilers.
    *How does it end?
    * Who is the male lead?
    *Who end up getting the throne?
    *What about her older brother and his lover?
    *What about the system if women giving their children to the brothers?
     
  20. Silentstorm

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    She never seems to think the setting has really changed all that much, so it could have been Octavia just really not caring about getting pregnant and it was the pair that didn't want to force it on her and were looking for another solution until she offered herself.

    Because, really, for someone who was such a big fan, she really just accepts the world she is now, leading me to believe it's mostly the same as the original book.
     
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