Spoiler Dad Is A Hero, Mom Is A Spirit, I'm A Reincarnator

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  1. Yumika12345

    Yumika12345 Well-Known Member

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    I think the prince is the ML. The MC comes to find out why the royal family can't contract with spirits and tells the prince. The ancestors of the royal family killed a lot of spirits in the past now their bloodline is cursed to never contract with spirits again. Their is this place within the palace that is a burial ground for all the spirits that died and spirits instinctually dont like going near it. After the prince found out he feels guilty and every year during this festival he goes and prays/apologizes? to the MC for his ancestors mistakes. The MC goes and hears this every year and I think she may feel something for the prince's sincerity. I may be wrong cause I read this a years ago on mtl.
     
  2. Aeiru28

    Aeiru28 Unchanged Melody

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    yeah, the prince is sorry. But, his father prefer that the curse didn't lifted, as it can be advantage. People can't assassinated them with spirits as the spirits will avoid them.
     
  3. Shiro-Tensei

    Shiro-Tensei Well-Known Member

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    If that guy doesn’t want the curse lifted, then what’s his motive for desiring the mc?
     
  4. Shizun

    Shizun 《Jack of all trades》《Artist/Author》《Dao of BLedia》

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    While being protected by the curse and at the same time use other ppl to his advantage like a chess piece
     
  5. lazynoodles

    lazynoodles Softie for Villainess & BL

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    yuup~ that guy is scum~~
     
  6. lazynoodles

    lazynoodles Softie for Villainess & BL

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    Was anyone really shocked over the manga chapter 11-12? Basically after seeing Rovel - Sauvel's would-be wife basically had the hots for Rovel. She was basically all over him the minute she laid eyes on him. Even after she was wearing her goddamn wedding dress, she only was happy when she heard brother-in-law enter the room. Then she was shocked when she realized he was already married and there was no way for her to get in between. I mean his wife is a literal goddess. She was even punished for making "a false promise of matrimony." When Rovel in a near-blind rage on behalf of his younger brother - he's all, "YOU FUCKING CHEATED ON HIM?!?" Aria (the one marrying Sauvel) is all "I have no idea what you're talking about!" The goddess is all the marking is faint and she must not have done anything too serious. The goddess is like - "emotional 2-timing?" Rovel has no sympathy and tries to slut-shame her into next week.

    It's even stated that many women fell victim to his good looks even when he makes it super clear to others that no he's not interested and no you don't have a right to touch him. Which Aria does try to do under the guise of sympathy. Rovel is very single-minded when it comes to his relationship with the goddess and never looked at anyone else even as a child. I guess that's why he cannot empathize with Aria at all. He fell madly in love with a literal goddess and was very lucky to have that love reciprocated. His love never wavered once and that's why he can't understand how someone else could change feelings so quickly or get infatuated so easily with someone else.
     
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  7. Shizun

    Shizun 《Jack of all trades》《Artist/Author》《Dao of BLedia》

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    I sorta dont get it why they are held responsible and mc is apparently sacrificed for it

    Anyways too much nonstop drama for my tastes
     
  8. lazynoodles

    lazynoodles Softie for Villainess & BL

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    Because they originally used cheating and the goddess's authority about matrimonial values to get rid of Sauvel's wife. Then like a backlash the Big bad from the royal family is all - "Fuck yea I can USE this." To get a powerful spirit pawn without having the responsibility to use it themselves, since spirits hate his family that means those with powerful spirits won't come near them because the hatred is that deep. Making them actually unable to be assassinated so easily. So the punishment is on the little spirit family is multi-faceted. One is having to use spiritual authority to get rid of one nuisance. Then have the same authority to be used against them. Then added to the fact someone who is to be married to his younger brother starts lusting after him unfairly. Then that big baddie harassing them all because he's greedy over more power by using that same authority by the goddess as emotional blackmail. Rovel because he treasures his younger brother who he basically left all his responsibility to and on top of that accidentally seduced his brother's woman. He doesn't want his younger brother harmed in any way after his irresponsibility has come to fruition. The goddess his wife sure pulled out everyone's butts collectively and was like - "Look temporary lust will just lead you to ruin; I'll give you chance and make the punishment invisible to everyone but you. Think about what TRULY matters."

    Aria was forgiven by the goddess only because she acted sincere about how would she feel about selling out her own daughter. Which she replies as a good mother as "over my dead body." Then the goddess is all - "well... that's what you are pushing us to do with your worthless lust." At that moment Aria feels remorse not towards her now-husband but towards the MC who is still a child as a mother.

    Honestly, I adore Sauvel as a man and a character. He's upright and sincere. He doesn't always do the right thing and ends doing stupid shit. But that's just being human and always weighs his actions. He honestly values his family and his then-lover with his whole being protecting them as best as he could. Even when he knows he's unworthy of his title, unlike his older brother. He has humility and is willing to not only learn from mistakes, but to rectify them as much as he can. I look at him and I question - why isn't he a more important character? He's far more interesting than his older brother by using his OP status to power through everything. Is it because he's not as attractive as his older brother? I mean look at Zuko - he's interesting because he suffers, learns, and does his damnest to grow. Same as Sauvel but he instead is treated as somebody's punch-line. Is it because he takes his humility too far and because subservient? That isn't true since he held up his damaged household as much as he could when he was sorely unprepared. He was treated himself as a spare and was happy to that. Then shit hit the fan and he did all he could to rise to the challenge. Isn't that more endearing and important? But I'm going to end this because this rant is too long and I should actually be studying.
     
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    sirwence Well-Known Member

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    I was curious if anyone had read further in the WN itself? I was quite curious of any spoilers of big reveals or family stuff.
     
  10. ruri888

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    I'm reaching at Academy School inspection Arc right now when Rovel and Eren went to Rovel's school alunmni.
    (48 of 118 available chapters)
    ▶The "secret" of Ellen's birth (since like some of you guessed, there is no way a human could impregnated a spirit)
    ▶Ellen will become a Princess that well known to create a "God's medicine" (which actually she only recreate some medicines from "earth" based on her previous life experienced)
    ▶Those point before will make Ellen become a most wanted person (in good way) in the Kingdom
    ▶She will meet again with the Prince, and eventually discussed for a couple time due some event, though she still not forgive about Royal Family
    ▶Her cousin (Aria's daughter) is really envy with Ellen (she's kinda annoying imo), because everyone attention (including her crush person, the Prince) is always talking about Ellen. She will get kidnapping by mistake by some people who think that her cousin = Princess that created God medicine (which actually is Ellen)

    I'm trying to read it until the last chapter, so probably will update something again
     
  11. Yumika12345

    Yumika12345 Well-Known Member

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    i'm confused is Ellen a spirit or not?
     
  12. ruri888

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    Yes and no. Ellen is spirit, but she's kind of special case.
    So, when her father is originally died in war before (like the legend said), her mother then "revived" or "remake" Rovel again. But we know that Ori is The Mother of all, she also actually made "human" too as "a doll" in the time world created. Which lead she could make Rovel "human body doll" again. But when Ori did that, Rovel kind of sucked Ori's powers and made him to became half-spirit.
    That's why Rovel explained before that he couldn't stayed too long at human world (since part of him is originally Ori spirit). And it could be answered why Rovel and Ori could give a birth of Ellen, because it said by Ori that "Rovel" is not longer the "former human Rovel".

    Imo, Ellen is special because of this parents situation→because she is born from Ori (full spirit) and Rovel (human "doll" with half of Ori's spirit power). Ellen's born as a spirit, but with a former human soul of Ellen which is "reincarnated" (I think it's because Ellen's human soul is kinda completed the missing part of her soul from Ori & Rovel, which also make her special). That's why Ellen could stay on human world longer than his father even though she is a spirit.

    Though, since all the spirits world residents are also keep saying that Ellen is spirit, it really safe to say that Ellen is a spirit. (She also got effected by Royal family curse because of it)
     
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    I'm done with Academy School Arc. And I want to say terribly sorry about some mistakes I said before. I'm gonna corrected them now.
    I'm gonna put the spoiler point by point of chronology to make it easier to be understand
    ▪Rovel (human hero), died on war.
    ▪Ori, moved Rovel's soul to the remake of Rovels body (as she also created human "doll" as Goddess), but he eventually sucked her own spirit, which make Rovel now became a half-spirit. Rovel himself don't know about this fact.
    ▪Ori and Rovel then married.
    ▪When Ellen is born, she also sucked her mother spirit (like her father) making her a quater spirit.
    ▪Ellen former human soul which is being "reincarnated" also enter the baby Ellen. Ori knowing this (and also the fact that Ellen's soul is "reincarnated"), but she's really welcoming her as her daughter.
    ▪Ellen grown up as quater spirit, as the story goes on.
    ▪At 9 y.o., after the incident with Royal Family (when encounter with Princes). Ellen begin to hear the voice of sacrificed spirits. As Ellen is quater spirit with former human souls (also her father's family human), she trapped with the position between taking a pity of human (+princes) and raged sacrificed spirits. She is the only the one who could hear her brethren spirits raged voice, which make Ellen sometimes get some nightmares about it.
    ▪At age 12 y.o., after the accident with Aria, Ellen's power is awakened and then she become a Goddess.

    And the additional spoiler so far until chapter 72/118
    I forgot to mention it, but there is additional characters around Rafitalia's kidnapping accident. Kai, Albert's son, and Van, a tiger spirit; which both become Ellen's escort. There is also Hume, a healer who's working for Royal Family and he is a spirit contractor.
    ▪Ellen got invited to joined Academy, where Rafitalia, Kai, and all Royal Family's children going to. The Academy is also the former school of Rovel.
    ▪Ellen and Rovel don't want to go there, but Ori said that there is something suspicious there. So Ellen, Rovel, Kai, and Van decided to do a tour to Academy, saying is an inspection for Ellen before join the school.
    ▪The Dean wants to steal Ellen's medicine recipes and monopoly her.
    ▪Ellen feels there is spirit trapped below the academy building.
    ▪The school went crazy about the Hero Rovel went school with her cute daughter. This make Rafitalia's envy Ellen more and she encountered some problems because of her annoying attitude with Kai who is respected in the Academy.
    ▪Dean use Hume to get closer to Ellen. He threatened Hume's mother(which is actually Dean's concubine), but Ellen's realized it first. She then moved Hume and his mother to Sauvell's place to save them.
    ▪Ellen collapsed from exhausted, and her soul accidentally went and found the trapped spirit in Academy.
    ▪When Ellen told Ori this, Ori told her that the spirit is actually the first spirit that created by Ori, named Ark. Which make Ark is become Ellen's big brother.
    ▪Arc is a spirit that manage the flow of power and energy in this world. He is being captured by Dean's ancestors and trapped him in Academy building. Use him to research power resources.
    ▪Rovel asked Scum King to help him with Hume's mother document, so both Hume and his mother could be released from Dean ASAP.
    ▪Ellen and Rovel (with Ori later) saved Ark, but then the Scum King come with Dean.
    ▪They then judge Dean for all of his false. Ellen also said that Dean's ancestor's hide Ark's existence from Royal Family, which make Scum King angry with him. (because if Dean's ancestor told Royal Family at that time, Royal Family didn't need to sacrificed another spirits and lent Ark's power instead, which could avoided Royal Family's being cursed)
    ▪The Scum King said to Ellen that he didn't want the cursed being lifted, with the exact reason like some members before me said here.
    ▪Additional spoiler are: Kai is contracted with Van as spirit to protect Ellen at the academy ceremony event.
    ▪After Academy case is closed, Ellen is being informed that her aunt Aria is doing something again.
    ▪Rafitalia is being dropped out from academy because she keep humilated the Knight's pride, bring a shame of her noble family name, and can't act like noble lady. (she even arrogantly asked Kai to become her knight instead of Ellen's)
    ▪When she went home, Sauvell scold her with her behaviour at academy, and her mother Aria also present. Then the whole family come at that meeting.
    ▪First, it's actually being uncovered that Rafitalia's arrogant attitude comes from Aria, who lied and teached her wrong. Aria told her daughter that Sauvell betrayed her and the whole Sauvell's family bullied her. Aria's also encourage Rafitalia's arrogant attitude and said that it's not wrong to be act like that.
    ▪When Sauvell angry with Aria, Grandma Isabella come and give a report that said that Aria actually planning to kill Sauvell (because her lust on Rovel, lol), using one of her former lover's power.
    ▪Isabella also said that Aria actually kinda bitch with some of lovers, which one of them is unfortunately Sauvell.
    ▪Ellen, which already known this report is really raged at Aria when she keep denying and mocking "Goddess" in front of Ori (this scene is really lol'ed because Aria did that without knowing that Ori is a Goddess, while Ori is just "ufufufufu")
    ▪Ellen then punish Aria and spread the black thorn cursed on Aria's body before, left only her face remained.
    ▪This make Ellen power as Goddess is awakened. She then become The Goddess of Existence, which could control and manage all of matter and elements in this world. This make Ellen also have a power to bring a death and purified to human (with manipulated their matter and elements), that became the opposite power of her mother, Ori.
    ▪After all the ruckus, Rafitalia repent all her acts and apologize to Ellen. She then became a good cousin.
    ▪Aria run away for being ashamed after that and can't be find anymore.

    Fun spoilers:
    ▪Rovel is really oyabaka XD
    ▪Kai and Van is sometimes give a vibe of rival for being Ellen's escort. Van even envy with Hume's contracted spirit when saw Ellen play with them.
    ▪Both Princes are keep chasing after Ellen even after being rejected countless times by Ellen's household (and Rovel)
    ▪Ark is being captured by human when he overslept recklessly on human world
    ▪Ark got a love at first sight with Ellen after their first encounter, proposed Ellen to marry him, which raged Rovel so much XD Ori and other spirits laughing at this scene (since Ark also kinda like a innocent child)
    ▪Amiel still want to bring Rovel as her father back to her mother, Agriel.

    Also, there is a character introduction from the author at 73/118 of web novel site. You could go there and read it for the details ^^
    (Google Translate's translation for that one page is pretty solid, so you could use it for help)
     
  14. Aquaa

    Aquaa 『We Lost The Summer』

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    That amiel is stupid or what....I first sympathized with her but now seeing her intentions....I wanna puke....



    Also aria should go and find a ditch to die '-'


    Also thanks for the spoilers!
     
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    chamchaworld Lazy Chibi

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    Now I lost any hope about Aria. Poor Sauvel tho, married twice already and both of his wife need bashing in their head. Since Aria got many lovers, are we sure Rafitalia is his real daughter or not?
     
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    I have to agree with you on that one. Too much unnecessary drama. I still don't get why Rovel has to listen to the royal family at all. Why can't they just take his family away to somewhere else?
    Most of the drama seems pretty forced. :unsure:
     
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    It looks like Amiel still being eaten by her mother's words before which said that Rovel is her true father XDD
    Amiel also doesn't really like the fact that both of her cousins (Princes) care about Ellen so much.
    Ellen somehow aligned Aria as the same level with Agriel after this and understand why Ori wanted to throw a fire ball to Agriel at the first story XDD
    You're welcome~

    Based on what Rafitalia said, Sauvell is not her real father. But Sauvell loved her so much like her own daughter (and so with Rafitalia later after knew Aria's wrongs).
    Around the wedding with Sauvell, Aria also did a relationship with another 4 men. 2 of them is keep contacting with her until now and take a pity of Aria's fake bullied story. And one of them is the one who want to kill Sauvell.
    Sauvell is indeed lesser and lesser to have a care with Aria again after Ellen's warning after wedding. But he still take care of her due the responsibilities.

    Luckily it's being hinted that Sauvell is now like Hume's mother, Liliana, and she seems like a great woman figure. Because when Hume asked Liliana about Sauvel, she answered that she only love Hume's father (Liliana married Dean for the sake of Hume). Grandma Isabella also likes her, and Liliana is kind to Rafitalia too after Aria's incident.
     
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    Akiyuki_chan Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the spoilers! Aria, that beetch :blobangery: I want to slap her so bad.

    Will Ellen ever meet other goddesses? I mean, the twin goddesses which rule over the law and justice(?) ? I recall they helped Ellen once before.
     
  19. ruri888

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    It seems like Ellen will meet Vahl and Vohl soon because the Twin Goddess said that they're promised Ellen to meet with them when Ellen grown up. Though until now, the reason Vahl and Vohl still not meet Ellen are because Rovel doesn't allowed them....for stupid reason XD

    I'm still in the middle of new story (it has a bit complicated new setting of neighborhood Kingdom's history and drama), but the biggest spoiler I could said....
    Both of them are already in the Spirit's Castle to see Ori who is now 4 month pregnant and Ellen will be a big sister soon!
     
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    Akiyuki_chan Well-Known Member

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    Waaaa! :blobparty::blobmelt::aww: There'll be a big family meeting then! Thank you for the spoilers! :bloblove: