Spoiler The Male Lead’s Substitute Wife

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  1. zloi medved

    zloi medved Well-Known Green Tea Bitch

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    I feel like different versions may be the case then, because when you were like "she let him because of guilt" I was like "hhhwhat?", and thought maybe you read a version I didn't because that wasn't even alluded to in mine. I hope the TL team use whatever version you were reading, because this one is just... Something. Tbh it also impacted me because I liked MC a lot up to this point -- she was carefree and bubbly without completely straying into "dumb as a brick" territory like a lot of female MCs in this type of novel, and up to this point there was a lot of consensual and mature sexual scenes, instead of that dubcony "I don't want to have sex because I'm just so pure and proper but the ML is such an overbearing president~" approach a lot of novels do. It was just such a... random and unnecessary turn. :blobscream:

    RE: the original host being "innocent" I don't mean like, pure or naive or white lotus-y. I mean in that legally and ethically she didn't do anything wrong up until the MC takes over her body. I'll frame it how the novel did: She was a stunningly pretty but small-time actress who grew up with small town parents that sheltered her and doted upon her during her upbringing, a rich and overbearing romance novel-esque CEO suddenly appears and starts pursuing her one day, at first she resists because she has high pride but he gradually wears her down with his persistence and throwing money at her, she agrees to be with him, he proposed marriage to inherit his grandfather's fortune but not go public with it, she is (by the novel's phrasing) so "swept up" by his romance that it doesn't occur to her how messed up a secret marriage is, he continues to romance her and throw money at her and she falls deeper in love with him because of his love bombing, AYT comes back from overseas and ML immediately switches to doting on her instead, orig!SYY panics and is afraid of losing him, causing her to act irrationally wherein she stops being innocent because she does bad things, her own actions lead him to become disgusted and divorce her, then AYT pays some men to gang rape her and then afterward she is run over by a car and dies.

    When I say "she's innocent" I mean like: the original host wasn't aware she was a substitute, afair, until AYT shows up. She didn't take advantage of her appearance, knowing she resembled AYT, to deliberately scheme to climb into SXQ bed. When SXQ approached her, despite clearly seeing he was wealthy and powerful, she didn't immediately agree to date him to take advantage of him to help her career -- she was convinced he sincerely cared about her due to his courtship. When she entered into the marriage, although he was upfront about it being transactional, a large part of why she agreed at all was because she'd become convinced of his feelings for her, and at no point was it disclosed to her by SXQ or anyone else around her that she was a substitute -- and then the MC takes over.

    Basically I see the original SYY as "innocent" because she didn't scheme or chase after ML or intend at any point to take advantage of his wealth and power. He was entirely the active party in pursuing her originally, he suggested the marriage, and even if he expressed it was so he could inherit his grandfather's money, up until that point he'd still romanced the original SYY and convinced her that he genuinely cared about her. She may have broken the terms of the legal pen and paper marriage, but up until then she still thought the romantic relationship had at least some sincerity -- eg. even if SXQ didn't actually love her, he definitely cared about her because he pursued her after her initial refusal and showered her with gifts and convinced her to date him based on his earnest perseverance.
     
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  2. scriptor

    scriptor 『Sigilmaster』 『Immortal Sage』

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    Ohhhh I see, I see. Then yeah, in that case the orig!FL would be 'innocent' and ML would be scum. deserves a kick in the balls :blobcat_knife:

    I really hope a version issue is what's going on and that the nicer version gets translated... :sweating_profusely:
     
  3. Kaylee

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    Well, my opinion is they both have win win solution regardless of reason.
     
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    What's the female protagonist's ending. Commited suicide... Then what?
     
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    I think she tried to commit suicide, but failed. In the mtl, ML asked the assistant to check on the FP after getting news of her attempted suicide. He told ML “Because the discovery was timely, the person was rescued, and the person was emotionally unstable. It seemed that the spirit had a problem. Mr. Ann has contacted the best psychiatrist to treat Miss An, and I have not helped."


    Later on, the An family tried to use her as guilt for ML to be lenient on her sister for attempted murder. It didn't work
     
  6. Dan_Niel

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    Urk. Her enemies in the US didn't do anything more? She's lucky. Lol. Am I the only one waiting for a worse end?
     
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    She tried to commit suicide after what her enemies did to her. In the end, her mother described her basically as a walking corpse.
     
  8. Dan_Niel

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    Thanks.
     
  9. Kaylee

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    Didnt she was gangraped? That was alr a worse end of wealthy missy (eventho she might be whoring herself back then, rape is different).
     
  10. nuttyreader

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    The ML is NOT a Saint but he is so much better than some of the other MLs out in novel land.
    I already stated his issues in a previous post ....
    He really had no real strong feelings. He was still a guy so he did the deed again and again with the original. He did like her but did not love her.

    in the original, he divorced her because he thought he did it with an something and she became pregnant. He wanted to take responsibility and forgot his original responsibility.
    What prevents him from being scum...... he never hurt her other than divorce. He never went after her to destroy her like some other MLs out there which really turns me off reading the story. When he found out what happened, he does do the right thing and helps the FL parents and never marries. He stays alone and adopts a girl. He gives justice for her.

    The ML made mistakes which led to the FL being badly harmed..... but he was willing to accept his responsibility for the mistakes.

    OriFL truly loves the ML. The ML screwed up by making the marriage a secret - why why why??????? This part I don’t get but this is the basis of the problems the oriFL has. ML basically swept her off her feet and treats the marriage like some bad thing by being a secret. Of course, he still gets to eat as much as he wants. Why not, that’s his wife. :facepalm:

    So, the ML is not perfect. The ending of the original shows that he has ethics and morals.

    In the new story, the FL does get back at him. She makes him grovel and truly show that he loves her.

    For what happens to an something, she gets what she did to the original FL in the original time line. She gets gang raped by the people she is running from. She got exactly what she deserved.

    On the ML rape of FL, I don’t remember so I won’t comment. I’ll just state that when they have sex, the FL is always begging for mercy. This seems to be a common style in these types of stories so it’s hard to state from her crying and begging for mercy if it was rape or she was just being overpowered which happens sooooooo many times. These MLs have permanent viagra in their veins and they are athletes who can go on and on like the energizer bunny.......... hahahaha yeah, they are bunnies alright. :blob_sunglasses:
     
  11. megane.no.megami

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    I'd like to think that it was more of angry sex. At first it was dub con, but both were hurt. Both were in denial of their own feelings. Both were angry at each other because neither wants to admit their feelings for one another. It became of neither one surrendering and just going through the motions. ML thinks this should tie FL to him. FL thinks it's their last hurrah, so what the hell. Ah. That's how I interpreted the MTL anyway. Still left an unpalatable taste to my mouth when I first read it... then I read it again, and it doesn't seem so bad?
     
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  12. nuttyreader

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    this really depends on feelings. It’s not as cut and dry - in story, please a no is a no. Only in a story can this be so ambiguous -

    There are too many overbearing MLs and the weak/meek/shy FLs. FL gives in to the ML due to .... they want it but too shy/meek to say yes or just giving it and than they are used and used to the point they beg for mercy and can’t get up. That can be seen as the FL being forced but as we are getting the whole story, we know it is consensual. This depends on translation to properly show the context. Mtl is not the proper way to truly know.

    I say this with having the misfortune to read some true rape stories. I wanted to wash my eyes out after reading.
    1 - ceo who was so powerful that he can kidnap a girl and rape her saying that she stole his seed to have his baby. The police can’t touch him and he can just kidnap and rape her as much as he wants and she can’t do anything about it. This was the most disgusting story I had the misfortune to read the first chapter before realizing what it was.

    I still remember it now.... can I wash my brain????!!

    anyways, don’t take the mtl version to heart. Also, look at the total feeling in the story. To me, all events are linked so what happened has to include the context. Of course, this is only true since this is a story.
     
  13. KazenoTsuyoi

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    That story got its own drama made if I’m not wrong
     
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    :cry:
    I burst out crying when I read about the Dream (orig!Su Yaya), goodness! The An sisters are devils and pure evil! I want them to suffer more for what they did to her :cry: And for that ML blast him! I abhor him! The transmigrated Su Yaya should have grilled him more and made him suffer so much.
    I’m just happy though that the orig villain transmigrated and had her happy ending there. (Waahhh :cry: I’m still crying. The angst and her tragedy. Poor girl :cry:)
     
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    What is this chapter?
     
  16. Purplerules

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    Please what chapter do they get divorced?
     
  17. scriptor

    scriptor 『Sigilmaster』 『Immortal Sage』

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    Been such a long time since I read this that I forgot. Sorry :blobconfounded:
     
  18. Kaylee

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    I also dont rmb. This story is not that interesting.
    I dont rmb, whether they rly got divorced or she just sent the paper to him and disappear to her farm.
     
  19. megane.no.megami

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    Chapter 89.
     
  20. shouahang58

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    They didn't get a divorce. MC thought they did cause she sign the paper work and gave it to ML and left thinking he would sign it and turn it in but ML didn't. SO when ML went to chase the MC back, ML told her that they're still married as he never turn the papers in.