Spoiler Suddenly Became A Princess One Day

Discussion in 'Spoilers' started by Shizun, Sep 28, 2018.

  1. FrostButterfly

    FrostButterfly Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2020
    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    34
    Reading List:
    Link
    Hey Leva, is it the six books with spoon's illust?

    Because, I don't think the books that AS got are the new ones, but I think are legit since from what I remember there were others too who confirmed that on the pic she posted on wttpd in(If I'm not mistaken) in a Q&a. Aand some people also gave spoilers about the books(which always got erased since AS didn't allow spoilers in comments).

    Welp, I can be wrong tho:blobjoy:

    MonBon please heeeelp:blobastonished::blobastonished:
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2020
  2. FrostButterfly

    FrostButterfly Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2020
    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    34
    Reading List:
    Link
    Hahaha you don't have to worry because everyone is confused too! Even I, still hold so many questions.

    About the books that AS got, if those are fake, I think KR publisher won't contact her and reprimanded her to stop her translating project like what they already did. And for the revisions, I have a hunch but don't take this too seriously okay, since this is I repeat a HUNCH.

    Maybe the revisions got something to do with Diana's arc. The version that AS translated were so dark compared to current one right? Child-rape or rape in general isn't something you can take lightly.

    And from what I read on Namu there was a plagiarism problem in 2016(Someone please enlighten me)? So there are still so many things that left unattended.:blobcat_knife:

    Lastly please don't go Leva, we need more people in this forum to confirm things and I need someone that I can talk to about the novels~:blobowoevil:
     
  3. MonBon992201

    MonBon992201 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    248
    Likes Received:
    677
    Reading List:
    Link
    Ok gonna enlight some things bc even I am confused(or maybe it's me being brain dead because of this horrible filler arc).
    So, in the case of AS, she said that what she did was take both the printed version and the web novel version, and made the translation merging both things(or course, trusting more the printed version than the webnovel, she mostly used the webnovel for things that weren't in the printed version like some specials and stuff).
    Also, I want to know what the heck is the point of "updating" the printed version when you're gonna ignore that and make something else in the webtoon *looks directly at Plutus* if she actually updated it and make JUST LIKE HOW SHE'S MAKING THE WEBTOON I would understand it, right now I just want to drop the webtoon until Lucas appears again, I don't care about this plot anymore :blobunamused:

    I understand that it isn't something easy to digest, but it makes you feel more for Diana. I mean, we already got Claude's childhood as prime material of darkness, some more wouldn't hurt(I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me Diana's past on the webnovel version).
    For me, it felt like two sides of the coin, one helping the other. They both had horrible pasts with horrible parents and family, only having the love of their nannies(Claude had his mother until he was eight but let's not talk about it bc decapitation comes to mind) and they lost that too, but Claude fell to depression when Diana didn't, Claude even though he had a lot of power he didn't try to use it because of fear, Diana, although she didn't have magic or power, didn't fear her family and she escaped when she could, she helped Claude by not letting his fears cloud his thoughts of ending the reign of his family and helping his country, to me, Claude is the way he is because of her (I mean the ruthless part, we know it was kinda triggered when he found Penelope being a b*tch but I think it went in full bloom with Diana) so even though it bothered me reading rape(not graphic but still) I like how it was made to make their relationship function.
     
    M30WWWW, Cessa, Vardalyn and 2 others like this.
  4. Shimozuki Yue

    Shimozuki Yue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    1,455
    Reading List:
    Link
    Many might say that Janet is innocent and the one being used by everyone around her (cus yes, everyone knows a certain truth of her importance as a pawn) but I just don't really like her? Say she's naive, victim, and innocent, grew up in a bubble only with her own ideas.

    Maybe I just don't like how everyone is struggling with reality while she lives in her own world? I'm not saying it's bad but when it actually affects those around you, that's just being tactless and insensitive?

    I know she loves to have her family but I think what she loves is the idea of Athy and Claude. All she sees is the outside, the part where the emperor dotes on her daughter and naively thought that as long as it is proven she has the same blood, she would receive the same love.

    What happened when Athy and Claude fought? Yes, she worried about the princess and then she's happy. She's happy that she gets to see her 'sister' and gets happy that she's getting her chance to get close to her 'father'. She didn't feel like she was replacing Athy but that what she was doing, because she only got her chances when Athy isn't there. And she doesn't even think that it might actually destroy the 'family'.

    And then it was pointed out, slapping her awake that her existence might not be welcome. That Claude doesn't care for her and the Princess's position might get affected because of her. Did that wake her up? Nope, she was too happy to reunite with them and thought they should too. She got hurt when she realized that they were not asking about her as if they should know that she is their blood relative. And got hurt further when she asked Athy as if it was not just pointed out that a daughter coming out from nowhere will disrupt the hierarchy.

    I know she's also a poor child wanting attention. She would always call and cry for ijizekiel to accompany her. And always longs for the imperial family. It might be how mr white raises her, always hinting that it was her home. But her self centered thoughts were just glaring for me. Maybe because I read too many CN novels that destroy many holy mother type that i can no longer tolerate destructive kindness? Yes destructive, because it causes other peoples' sacrifice to pay for their naive and thoughtless kindness.

    She choose to only see what she wanted and continue to think only what makes her happy and be hurt when others are busy with their reality rather than pity her. And it's not like black haired dude is not giving her the talk.
     
  5. MonBon992201

    MonBon992201 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    248
    Likes Received:
    677
    Reading List:
    Link
    This my dear friend, is what EVERYBODY dislikes about her, and that is because she chooses to ignore, she chooses to ignore everyone else sadness and despair just to have her own happiness and that is the thing that makes her supposed wish to have live with her “father and sister” sound like the biggest bullsh*t someone has ever heard.
    I don’t know why the people that like her are okay with that kind of thing but they can go off on their boat, she’ll end up exiled anyways.
     
    Neyva, Cessa, Pearl1995 and 1 other person like this.
  6. ATrueStory

    ATrueStory Villainesses, Historical Shit, Noble Circuses

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2019
    Messages:
    1,124
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Reading List:
    Link
    I would rather have the Spoon explore Diana's past and her relationship with Claude than reading another panel of Jeannette.

    Does anybody have a summarized version of the AU about DianaXClaude? I have been searching for ages, even in Discord.
     
    djan29, Neyva and Avery Very like this.
  7. MonBon992201

    MonBon992201 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    248
    Likes Received:
    677
    Reading List:
    Link
    Do you mean that one special in a ModernAU when everyone is alive and dandy? I only know about the new year special, I didn't know there was another one
     
  8. ATrueStory

    ATrueStory Villainesses, Historical Shit, Noble Circuses

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2019
    Messages:
    1,124
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Reading List:
    Link
    My two cents
    - People like her because her situation isn't ideal and nobody would like being used by other people from birth
    - Readers know that her background and family is shit from the start
    - She's cute in other people's opinion. and nobody wants a little girl to cry.
    - ideally, readers want a happy ever after. Family style. especially in the media, we consume

    I understand all these things but I really can't get over her obliviousness. Some readers interpret that as an attack towards the character. I said in the past, that all I can feel for Jeannette is a disappointment. She doesn't live up to her ideal of being 'a sister'. I don't think I could even call her attitude as an optimism. For me, she's always been a pawn and while it is understandable on her part of the story, seeing obliviousness over and over again is tiring and uninspiring. She's just....flat. Never liked Ezekiel either but the guy has more promise (in the plot and character arc) than this girl will ever have.

    I'll take whatever I can get. My fanfics are the only thing that keeps this pairing alive in me.
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2020
    M30WWWW, Akiyuki_chan, Neyva and 6 others like this.
  9. hjnffnjh

    hjnffnjh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2019
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    921
    Reading List:
    Link
    I don't know if this is legit but there's a spoiler ending on reddit. Can't attach the link as I'm a new user.
     
  10. Shimozuki Yue

    Shimozuki Yue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    1,455
    Reading List:
    Link
    I actually don't mind oblivious characters. At one point innocent-ray-of-sunshine-MC's are a thing and they have MLs to shield them.

    It might be the fault of the storytelling or the way her character is being explored in the wrong timeline that her innocence is becoming her flaw and turning into obliviousness.

    Although she was raised to be timid(? Not really sure cuz she usually whined and mr white told her multiple times to wait. So surely she expressed her opinions multiple times and has the ability to do so) but the situation at was in so much tension that only dense people wouldn't take a hint. The emperor and princess got into a fight, the princess runs away, and the emperor put her on wanted--- emphasis on not looking for a missing person but WANTED. Yet all of these went past thru her head. The arc might be a good chance for her to break her 'pawn' status and something is wrong with the one raising her. I mean dude my family is fighting and your priority is to insert me in the middle? But instead of that, she just take her role, wait for her happy family like it's going to drop. Her priority is to get claude to accept her then take claude and athy's problem as just silly family quarrel (dude royal family quarreling drew blood ok?) that will be solve once athy decide to go home.

    So yeah, her obliviousness is like a choice, removing her innocent halo and looking like a flaw. Her ideal family and fondness toward the so called family is becoming BS cuz her priority is glaring. Being a selfish character is fine but being selfish while still thinking it was for others is annoying as fvk.

    What was my point? They are fvkng janet arc. It's making her look like a robber looting a house in fire. I don't mind her being getting close to athy nor when her enthusiasm cuz claude to get cursed. Her being innocent at that time is all within acceptable circumstances and i don't blame her. But now? I'll start to think that the author is setting her for a semi-antagonist if she still don't have any development at all.

    My second point? I can't take it anymore and needed to rant. Please don't report my long post. Huhuhu. Discussion like this cannot be posted at other forums because 'spoiler'. xC
     
    M30WWWW, Neyva, Akiyuki_chan and 5 others like this.
  11. MonBon992201

    MonBon992201 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    248
    Likes Received:
    677
    Reading List:
    Link
    For what I know, the new year special centers around Athy, Lucas, and their daughters so... yeah...

    Thank you for saying it, I honestly thought that they were going to make Jennette's character develop a little in this arc with how much they were dragging things but I can see they aren't and that it wasn't their first thought in the first place, so they made this a filler arc so to say.
    In the case of the family love and etc, for me, it has always been kinda BS on her part, or at least when she says that Athy is her "dear sister" because of how things went on the first timeline(me and my brother are normally on each others throats but we never let that kind of favoritism occur, and if we see it kinda occurring we help the other and made it clear to our parents what they did) in my mind is not possible that, if you love your sister as much as she said she loved her, why didn't she fought with Claude about it? Why did she let Athy live in the Ruby palace and never invite her to live in the Emerald palace? Was she ignoring Athys situation? <--- questions of mine that need serious answers

    It doesn't help that apparently, in the webnovel it is confirmed that Jennette knew what was happening to Athy and that she knew she was being selfish but she didn't do anything about it.

    Don't worry about it, this is supposed to be a spoiler thread and we have turned it in a discussion one XD feel free to rant here, in the state that the manhwa is right now is all we can do now.
     
    M30WWWW, Leilacus, Neyva and 5 others like this.
  12. jina2789

    jina2789 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2018
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    77
    Reading List:
    Link
    I've read somewhere a AU, but not too much focus on DianaXClaude but there is a part i think Diana, it didn't mention but that is a part where the 'other' lucas travel in time and eat athy's power when she was still inside Diana's womb, like that. So I supposed in that AU, diana live after giving birth to Athy
     
  13. bloggerman

    bloggerman Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2020
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Reading List:
    Link
    Thanks everyone for the spoilers.
    I'm just too impatient when it comes to stories like this one.

    I'm still curious about 1 thing.

    It has been stated that Claude remember everything, even the past life, but will this affect the story? Will this change his personality and his view of the MC and such?
     
  14. LonelyWolfLucas11

    LonelyWolfLucas11 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2020
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    24
    Reading List:
    Link
    Hello @Eodez - sama, our spoiler queen

    Would it be ok to ask, please if ever u don't mind...can u please spoil us about that chapter where Lucas dress up well and dance with Athy??
     
  15. MonBon992201

    MonBon992201 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    248
    Likes Received:
    677
    Reading List:
    Link
    The only thing that changes is his overprotectiveness that goes over 300000 :blobjoy::blobjoy: Lucas suffers the backlash of it on a 100%
    He also becomes kinda clingy and smiles more often to Athy.
    Other than that nothing else changes, this happened when Lucas struck him with the World Trees branch so you can imagine how much crying happened after he got all his memories back.
     
    Avery Very, Cessa, Fatman2016 and 3 others like this.
  16. mamamoodikkensclout13

    mamamoodikkensclout13 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    39
    Reading List:
    Link
    i honestly wonder when the manhua itself will start to actually focus on athy again edhewifygwu
     
    Neyva and Avery Very like this.
  17. Shimozuki Yue

    Shimozuki Yue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    1,455
    Reading List:
    Link
    Holy! I cannot wait on that, please spoil those instances. I mean he is already clingy more than he let on (all those children drawing with protection magic and him wanting to be athy's escort).
     
    Avery Very likes this.
  18. hjnffnjh

    hjnffnjh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2019
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    921
    Reading List:
    Link
    When will this be made to manhwa? The wait is agonizing.
     
    Avery Very likes this.
  19. ATrueStory

    ATrueStory Villainesses, Historical Shit, Noble Circuses

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2019
    Messages:
    1,124
    Likes Received:
    4,264
    Reading List:
    Link
    more likely not. The original timeline covers only the part when the curse lifts so it might not be included. Besides, the illustrator already said it is a more family centered toon than romantic.

    Not really. Its more that he reverts to his treatment of Athy which is he's the kind of dad who will nuke the guy who makes a pass at her.

    @Eodez doesnt have spoilers for this title. I believe s/he's for AE exclusively. Just go back the pages in the thread.

    Got a link? or anything sharable?
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2020
  20. jina2789

    jina2789 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2018
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    77
    Reading List:
    Link
    Nah, they closed the site, but all I can say is, the novel is quiet different from the novel,. dunno if spoon will follow the scenes from the novel where Claude and Athy reunited and Claude did everything for Athy to stay even if he will risk his own health XD