Recommendations Need novels like Losing Money to Be a Tycoon

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    woah dude you sure have a bad taste, most of these novel were racism and hatred toward korean and japanese, tons of face slapping and filler word padding which honestly barely contribute into the plot.
     
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    EDIT(22/09/2022): it seems that at least one of these novels may make my fears untrue, more info here.
    Just reading the synopses gives me the feeling that they are chinese propaganda. And that means lots of racism, giving the impression that having savings is a misfortune, not-so-veiled political statements and, most likely, lots and lots of China=good, West=evil (the few propaganda-loaded novels I came accross before banning them from sight promoted the idea that chinese medicine is miracle panacea that has beneficial side-effects beyond their purported uses while western medicine was poison that was effective in the short term but eroded your lifespan, among other things).
     
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    I have read Losing Money to Be a Tycoon.
    "I Work Hard Everyday to make my Husband Bankrupt"
    This one is close enough if you have no problem having a female lead
     
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    "I Work Hard Everyday to Make my Husband Bankrupt" is about a transmigated FL who created an entertainment industry with the purpose of losing money. But instead of losing money, she became more successful.
     
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    Thanks for the recommendations!
     
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    Thanks! Seems interesting :blobsmirk:I shall try it.
     
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    I have read many novels containing extreme propaganda themes
    It's okay if you read for entertainment purpose and not letting it blind you or your conscience. Well, mainly I for the one like to read books from any genre :blobpats:
     
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    It just that I filter out the racism and all. Basically, I read any book/novels in any genre.
     
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    I especially hate the Chinese medicine is best type of novels. It’s not grounded in reality at all.
     
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    have you read it? so far havent found the conflict with jap yet...

    as face slapping... its usual stuff...

    so hate chinese medicine
    meanwhile best type novel?
    well you must consider chinese medicine as traditional or alternative treatment.

    uhm. not sure if there is medicine in this novel.
    and... where do you get impression of the propaganda? that saving is a misfortune?
    why you have so much hatred toward chinese medicine?
     
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    I said "I got the feeling". Somehow I found the synopses similar to other ones that ended up, after reading them, being just chinese propaganda posing as a novel.
    About chinese medicine, not so much hatred towards it, but towards the ideological use they make of it. At tis core, chinese medicine is basically te same thing as traditional remedies and witchcraft, a mixture of things found by trial and error and perceived rules (often incorrect). The difference is that, while western traditional medicine and witchcraft have, at several poits in history, gone under scientific enough revisions that have fragmented it in local variants with a diverse percentage of valid (enough) treatments, giving us in the end modern medicine, chinese medicine has only gone through ideological revisions tat have only raised the level of placebo and have perhaps reduced the numer of working treatments. Not to mention that, while western traditional medicine tends to use common things for common problems, chinese medicine doesn't shackle itself with that, making it the prime market for red list animal poaching. Add to that that the use of chinese remedies in hospitals is required by party directive, and that wraps it.
    I don't hate chinese medicine per se (though I think it should get actualized a bit much and some recent untested additions be reconsidered), what I hate is the use they make of it as a political tool that only warps it more and more, not allowing it to be "contaminated" by outside factors, making it stray from a way of treatment into some kind of religion, and using it a a symbol of supremacy.
     
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    Not exactly like loosing money but business world and earning money
    -extraordinary genius
    - I found a planet
    - galactic garbage station
    -I have a mansion in post apocalyptic world
    -Monster Factory
     
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    i dont think any of the novel mention in here...have TCM in it...
    and about racism... maybe rebirth of godly prodigal have bit of it but its very small fraction of the story.

    well i dont study TCM, and i dont think i will compare TCM with Western medicine.
    TCM is more like alternate treatment, or traditional remedies. some of it was already proven in past and keep use till now.
    the modern TCM is more new and untested, some will show result, some may not. the use of exotic animal, was because in the past recipe they have certain effect, and this effect is what they want to add in the new recipe.
    TCM study perhaps combine botany and animal organ/parts to achieve targeted result.

    and of course TCM is not bad, but the bad practitioner and black merchant cause the TCM name become bad.
    western medicine use the fastest and fierce way to solve illness, but the burden to body also big. while tcm use slow and soft way to solve.

    but again, if you got doctor or found bad merchant, well prepare to be rip off
     
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    It was a generalization, "things that are likely, but not surely, to be found in this kind of novels". The basic idea is that these novels basically spread certain kinds of messages, more often than not misinformation in the form of racial superiority, malicious misinterpretations, cultural superiority, moral superiority... that come straight out from Party propaganda. Some novels make weird interruptions just to fit an allusion to things that only boost partisan sentiment (one that I did read mentioned, in different occasions, one guy that's hailed as the quintessential patriot, the evilness of a pacifism cult that the government tagged as a terrorist group just to be able to enforce crackdowns on religious practices, and an incident that happened several years ago where the son of an official ran over and killed a girl and shouted in the streets that he was untouchable, for example; while all of them were included as a stretch in the story, the last one is particularly sad given that it was presented as a case example of evildoers metting their punishment while the fact is that, in the end the guy was right about him being untouchable, since all that happened was an scripted apology on local TV and a relocation of the father without harming his position, but was sold as a moral win for the populace).
    Many others of this ilk, howerver, are not that blatant in including extraneous elements, but their premises and narrative devices are heavily influenced by the propaganda. All these "spend to earn" novels are depictions of what they are told capitalism really is. They really believe that all people in capitalist countries have to behave like that (because, while the spin is different, the "spend to earn" thing it's really a capitalist tenet), and they make sure to paint it as a royal pain in the donkey (to reinforce in the readers the idea that their lives are better there than outside).

    Now, once again, about TCM: I'm not saying that the original TCM is completely wrong (it has some nice treatments) or the medicine itself harmful (the harm lies in closing your options); like all traditional remedies, it's mostly a collection of trials and errors with a post facto rationalization (the rationalization is wrong, however). The issue here is not that. My complains about it is the propaganda that made it its centre, which takes the rationalization and hails it as the fundamental truth, creating new "remedies" following it that were not present in the corpus of trial-and-error valid treatments (which is dangerous), takes paliative existing treatments and extolls them as perfect cures (wrong and dangerous), stops its proper evolution to keep it as an immutable pillar of nationalism (dirty and sad move), in a lot of cases downplays proper science for not agreeing with the rationalization (dumb and dangerous) and doesn't care to find alternative treatments when dealing with endangered species (infuriating and direct cause of local and total extinctions), not to mention that a good deal of the money moved by the trade is due to (often endangered, dangerous or both) viagra pacebos (which doesn't help to save the little good image everything else had left of it).
     
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    problem with TCM and other traditional remedies...
    they was seen as pseudo science in face of westerd medicine.
    many study case has been use to prove the in-effectiveness of TCM or other traditional remedies.

    as such. no new study focused on this area.
    so if even international society look down on your own heritage. how should china safe TCM?
    once its gone no way can be done to retrieve it. and it seems like TCM become commodities to be claim within East Asian country (S.Korean, Japan and China)
     
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    Lmaoo
    I've been camping in too many threads.
    Now, one more. :blobpeek:
     
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    Well i really enjoyed Losing Money to Be a Tycoon. If there are good ones i want to know. I dont care about rasicism or nationalism in a novel at all cause i am not deluded enough to think there wont be nationalism or racism in a wish fulfillment novel.

    I dont even understand some of these people, sometimes i even wonder what is their IQ level
     
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