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For some reason I feel sorry for Mei's future suitor ...Besides, what would you call a specialty in tentacles and twisting things?

remember that Vandeliu has one of the most broken abilities that exist, the sense of death, basically in combat avoids any fatal injury, if the sense reaches a certain level then Van costs what it will leave the combat, and the attempt to incapacitate them is also useless, Talosheim medical science is centuries away, perhaps the main problem would be if Arda is smart enough to try to take hostages, difficult thing but it would be a hard blow to Vandeliu if he succeeds

someone reminds me that god or gods created humanity

 

I personally see quite a lot of problems with that. Hostages only work if one cares about them. Van isn't some stupid hero of justice and doesn't care about everyone, just those close to him. However, this circle consists of monsters strength wise. It is not that easy for gods to directly involve. Who can actually capture Van's team? Furthermore, hostages are useful if you can prevent them from being rescued? Who can stop Van? Not to mention that even if they died, Van can always bring them back. Alda's problem is no longer just Van, even Van's closest friends are getting closer to the level he can do nothing about.

 

I was re-reading death mage when I come to realisation. There should be at least 4 continents.

Bahn Gaia, main story continent.
Dark Continent, Zantark's current home and the second continent demon king Guduranis invaded.
A continent Mao 'Noah' Smith escaped to.
The first continent demon king Guduranis invaded.

What leaves me curious, where did Noah escape to? What gods are worshipped on that continent? Will Alda receive reinforcements from the continent Noah escaped to?

 

Yes. There is at last 4 continents, Bangaia, Dark Continent, Demon King continent, and "Outside Bangaia" continent, this last one seems like an archpelago like continent, but since the Story main stage lies in Banh Gaia with both Van's Empire and Amid Empire and Orbaum Kingdoom as humanity strongest powers there isn't much significance to talk about in detail regarding a "small fry" continent.

Just make some calculations. Alcrem duchy capital does possess 1 million people plus another million scatered through the territory it may be over 2 millions.

There are 12 duches + 1 Central Territory. Each duchy will have no less population than Alcrem, in fact some may have more and Orbaum Capital (Central Territory) has 5 million people. Per calculations 2 M * 12 + 5M = 24M + 5M = 29M. Orbaum Kingdoom possess no less than 29 Million people.

If i am not mistake some duches capitals possess more than 1M or even 2 M people, the numbers then may reach 1 third of humanity population (Alda Counts the World population as still less than 100M, Vida races not counted).

If Amid Empire should possess another 1/3 at minimum. So by simple calculations Orbaum and Amid represents together about slightly over 2/3 of the world demografy.

Those two countries being the two power houses in the world - Vidal not in count here - it is not strange that the rest of less than 1/3 world's population left scattered in islands and archpelagoes not belonging to Banh Gaia don't have any big voices or that much relevance for the Story.

 

Talking about reinforcements, other continents and Noah. Will Noah get involved with those heroes/priests transportation even of if just baggage or temporary?

While she does has Aran's familiar spirits network as to not get involved in weird stuff. The 3 familiar spirits are too busy working correcting errors, Noah can't summon a familiar spirit frequently so as not to standout either.

Noah made some work in Fazon duchy and got the hell out of there, but her transporting company is considered well know already and if Fazon himself and other nobles judge it necessary they may try to move behind the scenes as to have Noah transport company accept their request for transporting "supplies and products" to a distant "island".

If things end up like this there may be some chance for Noah and Van to meet, to talk and borrow some help from Van

 

Van has already demonstrated his stance towards the hostages in the arch of the orphanage, although he is not willing to accept the demands of the other party, he does not want to risk the hostages even if he can revive them, but you are also right in the point that he is not easy to take hostages, just saying that this is possibly the only way that Arda or Heinz have to put Vandeliu by the ropes

I doubt it, they are not stupid (I think the elf who was with Noah was a woman) they would realize the intentions of the nobles of Fazon being on the other continent, and they would do everything possible not to relate to Van, if that been his arc as a character the entire series

 

Most likely they are extreme Alda and the 3 hero believers. From what has written this continent was settled right after the Demon King War with the last of humanity. Vida not happy with Alda and Bellwood decides to leave with her followers, whom will become pure breed vampires, and settles Bahn Gaia. This should mean that the only ones left on the that continent were mainly Alda faction believers. With Vida leaving this made a huge resentment in both Alda and Bellwood and they most likely would have never allowed Vida worship in the new continent. Their resentment for Vida was so bad that they would lead armies form this continent to attack Vida and her faction on Bahn Gaia leading to the Vida Alda War. They would then leave people on Bahn Gaia after the war to make sure Vida faction couldn't rise again. With the Alda faction in Bahn Gaia teaching about Vida you can kind of assume how worse the teachings are in a continent that doesn't even have Vida Worshipers. Plus don't forget Bellwood had a lot of influence on that continent and he has major Anti-Vida and Anti-Creation Heroes beliefs.

 

Heinz and co got the "Vida mortal enemy" title right? Did it influence something? I can understand that the "holy mother killer" title did nothing, but this something given by a goddess so there should be some consequences?

 

It means their religious movement can only fail now

 

It seems like his little chat with Mill did prompt him to think he can settle the conflict by offering his head to Van?
But at this point his tiny mortal brain is unable to comprehend that what is Vandalieu, so he settled for destroying him instead... Because reasons.

 

I really wonder how their final conflict will go, there's no real reason to believe that Heinz can credibly threaten the more powerful of Vandelieu's cadre, let alone Van himself. Even something desperate like Alda decending on to Heinz doesn't look like it would even the score. So what's his endgame? Was he born only to die?

My bet was some sort of begrudging reconciliation, but that seems to have gone out the window with the original demon king's death. The most obvious turn would be a single chapter stomp, but it wouldn't really be satisfying without some kind of resolution to Heinz's arc. Either accepting his crimes with contrition or defiance.

 

I just had a funny idea. The one fighting Heinz isn't going to be van but Schneider (does he have the downfall skill?), while van is dealing with Alda. At some point Heinz is going to talk about justice and then descend Bellwood to which Schneider descends van and continues to beat the crap out of him. Was van able to use soul break when he descends on someone? Having Heinz be soul broken on the side, him knowing that he didn't even make it to the final boss, would be something he deserves.

 

Where can I read volume 11 and 12 with proper english translation?

 

It is a infamous title. Kinda opposite of Van's Liberator of the Goddess [Botin], the titles's mechanics, however, have some similarities.

Liberator of the goddess and Holy mother killer ONLY demonstrates its effects if they are know to the public. If Van reveals he unsealed Botin and show his title (in case the others do need proof to believe it) all dwarves and Botin's (true) believers will favor the title holder be it to a lesser (Dwarf's Alda believer) or greater extent (Dwarf's Botin piuvious believer/extremist/open minded/etc).

Holy mother killer, if public known, reveals that the title holders are sinners, hedionds individuals who murdered a saint of great importance;

Those who are the same god's believers as the murdered saint will be hostile to this title holder, third parties who know nothing shall feel distrust towards who bears the title and distance themselves from them.

All 5 CB religious activity, Alda Harmony ideology, will fall to the ground. Only Alda extremists and alike would welcome... well, work with them - the past of abandoning Alda extremist faction still haunts them a little.

About the hostages stuff... It is nearly impossible, to not say impossible, for Alda forces caught anyone who is close to Van.

At best, if there is any sucessfuly hidden and imprisoned vida race in Amid, they may try to use them when the war begings as a way for van to show up or focus himself in rescuing them.

As long as Alda is able to bind a single finger of Van to gain as little space and room as possible while everyone is fighting he will do. If it just deviates Van attention by a bit there is no reason as not to try either.

Van will win, but doesn't mean Alda guys can't kill some of Van allies and pour holy water or stab a holy seal to make van's defeated dead allies go back to the circle of transmigration (albert Vida's) as not to have to deal with new undeads right away or ressurected ones in the future.

(By the way, due to Vida be unable to go back to her original santuary she is unable to make a full use of her system.

We don't know if she would be able to summon every single soul belonging to her system which happens to die in war for Van ressurect them later)

 

Schneider has Familiar Spirit DESCENT.

well, van alter ego still counts as familiar spirit so those with the common descent skill can summon Van if they want too. It was already confirmed.

He can't. But taking into account just how irregular Van is there is a chance that Van's awakened Demonfall skill may include such effects.

It would be awesome if van spirit clone, descended in his companions, enable them to break souls and the souls broken... eaten by van spirit clone were carried back to van stomach when the demonfall is undone.

Be able to break the souls of several gods all at once throught his companions and get his spirit clones to deliver them to him to eat would be very efficient indead. .

 

Sorry disappoint you, but lightnovelbastion is the one who has translated the most chapters and is still in volume 10.

ncode.syosetu.com/n1745ct is the oficial japanese release. Only Machine translations are avaiable. Our only option are for waiting patiently, read mtled chapters or learn japanese, my flatulences condulences.

 

Holy water won’t work on a lot of Van’s allies like Borkus. I mean, they’re well above the mark for godhood and they’re native gods. A lot of things that would normally be used against undeads are ineffective now. Hell, I’m not even sure they can truly be killed by anyone who can’t crush souls now.

 

Pretty sure they did away with their weaknesess a long time ago

Or at least the "undead" races don't really have racial weaknesess anymore, just until now the only thing that could be called a weakness has been Nemesis Bell that interfered with regeneration (something about nuliffying Life and Light attributes?). And even then it's been shown in the same chapter that people may be actively trying to get resistance skill for their weaknesess like Legion getting fire and lightning res.

 

one cannot be trusted, remember that Bellwood in his stage of idiots maximum command to make cursed, insidious and sadistic weapons under the name of sacred swords like nemesis (although they were wartime and it was acceptable), and then give them to their children (the real stupid). in addition to that there is one or another god that should have high level authorities.

I had forgotten about the resistance part, it will be a laugh when during the final battle the enemies try to use the obseleta strategies only to meet the absurd resistances and that it is impossible to use the individual combat plans because the members Van's group are used to cooperation, even Van himself has experience backing up his days before martial arts and the work of family members in dungeons.

 

The title affected people mind and impression.
First is Holy mother killer
- It is a negative title (no benefit at all)
- It's make the one beliefs or worships Holy mother has negative impression against those who have it (Hate and want to kill the holy mother killer).
Second is Vida mortal enemy.
- Negative than the above one. (whlie has some kind of benefits)
- This is a declaration of war!
- No peace only enemy with entire Vida race(worshippers) hate you to the supreme.
- While Alda extremist will count title bearer as a hero.