LCD Death Mage

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by lygarx, May 21, 2017.

  1. Eddy andres

    Eddy andres Well-Known Member

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    for chapters like these I keep reading translations even when I know what is coming, for small details such as the hierarchy of the gods or all the agony that is lost in the crudes, thank you very much Yoshi and Sebas
     
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    But it is what you wrote not long after mentioning an infinite length of time.
     
  3. NeurogamiPrime

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    225 felt way more like a SS than an actual chapter.
     
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    Mini Vans descend by falling up out of the ground?
     
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    Just to bring this back on track a little, it doesn't matter (for the sake of this conversation) how exactly the bending works, the very fact that you were just able to come up with all the stuff you just said that makes the Avatar Bending system a hard magic system. The guiding principle is whether or not a reader/player/viewer (the author/writer doesn't count) can come up with a solid theory/explantion on how it works that can be agreed with by a large number of the people hearing this theory/explanation with relatively little squabbling or alternate interpretations.

    The fact you came up with a cohesive explanation at all makes it hard magic, just how hard of a hard magic system it is gets determined by the level of disagreement on how it works among the fans who care to think that deep into it. The less disagreement there is, the harder the hard magic system is ranked.

    With DM, we can come up with a pretty consistent explanation, but there is a lot more disagreement over it than Avatar, which means it's a little on the softer side but not soft enough to cross that center line and get it to actually be considered a soft magic system.
     
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    it seems Luvesfol is Pauvina's animal companion, because she is a magical girl candidate and he is a creature that used to be powerful and now its in a debilitated state, getting carried along in teen shenanigans
     
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    Ophious Pathfinder kinda fun

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    While the information in this chapter was wonderful to read about
    I feel like its kinda lacking for being one of the main story chapters... feels more like it'd be something to add in a SS, Appendix or in one of those snippets at the end of each chapter
     
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    that does not excuse you from not reading the whole comment.
    i guess it was my fault for assuming you know how possibilities and infinite time work together, that is stuff you learn when taking a course in statistik while studying.
     
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    I read your entire comment in which you accidentally disproved your own argument with your own faulty understanding. I have nothing else to say on the subject.
     
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    Feel a little sorry for Heinz's current situation. Not much for Heinz himself though.
    1. Personal hatred gained from a soul eater (deserved)
    2. His attempts to reduce his guilt from killing a child of Vida backfired by killing entire VILLAGES full of children. (hatred of Vida, deserved)
    3. Only way out is to off himself before Van does (blocked by his own gods)
    4. If he refuses to go after Van now Alda will just get Rodolt to wipe his personality, leave his skills, and turn him into a suit for one of the gods to wear into combat. (unknown to Heinz at this time)(Fitun has seemingly already done this to the baka blades)
    5. Alda has no intention of compromise with Vida. He offered a stay of execution to Vida's races that joined his side that only lasts till he has killed those that can stop him. I think he mentioned turning his siblings into nonsentient physics processors if they refused to compromise(follow Alda's orders without question) with him. I wonder if we took a look at the stat page of the god of law(tyranny) and order(stagnation) we'd see he has an 8+ demon king possession.

    Feel more pity for the 2 members of Heinz's party that are stuck with this mess just because they are too strong now for Alda's forces to let them go.
     
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    HAHAHAAH a fun chapter as always, and even a former God says that Van is out fo standard even from a God POV.
     
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    rod can only do that to souls that have died, as long as heinz is alive rod can't do anything to him.
     
  13. metazoxan

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    Remember in this series SS only means not focused on VAN. It doesn't mean they are less relevent or that they are filler. It just means Van isn't at all the main focus.

    This one had Van as the main focus but was mostly just about what happened after the major events of the last main chapter. So not much happened and it was mostly just exposition. But it was centered on Van so it wasn't an SS.
     
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    Dont forget he is working on the rouge guy who is still technically alive. It has more to do if the soul is in his divine realm than if they are alive or not. Alda has a few ways to take out Heinz's soul and hand it over to rod if the need arises
     
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    for the second point. i am actually on Heinz's side. still regardless of his reasons, of course vida would hate him regardless. but that one really isn't his fault. i may be misremembering this, but i do not think he just went to random peaceful ghoul villages and killed everything in site. many ghoul villages were out there raping pillaging and murdering the areas around them due to the circumstances of their species. So if an area has hostile relationships with ghouls is heinz supposed to lead an investigation to each village in the area and kill only the specific ghouls involved in the killing? cause that would probably just be the hunting party of the village meaning its part of what the people in the village wanted so they would all be guilty. but then you can say "but the children didn't do anything, they are no responsible" and that is true. so do the blades just go village to village checking if they partake in any of the things they need to do to continue their species and if so kill everyone over an arbitrarily decided age to decide who is and is not responsible for the actions of their village? the dudes are murder hobos and probably never even had to think that deeply because they were told all the ghouls are evil, and he had no reason to believe that they were not. and even when he was given reason to think that not every ghoul is 100% evil, its only an unproven theory he probably had at the back of his mind.
     
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    remember that you are saying that about a guy who was raised in an environment that was way more into killing all of vidas races and in that environment he felt bad for killing a darkelf and condemning her not even one year old son to death, and no he did go around to random peaceful ghoul villages and kill everything in site as long as it was on his way. if the adventure guild asked him to he would destroy the village, even if no one was harmed by them, he would still do it to make sure it doesn't happen in the future.
     
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    Ghouls usually stay in their own areas and don't go out to rape and pillage. If adventurers come they will defend themselves and may turn females into ghouls.
     
  19. metazoxan

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    Plus even if they go venture out a bit it's probably just because they need food or they've suffered under human attacks for so long they can't take it and decide to retaliate.

    Obviously the situation is overall complicated and even Van himself said he can't exactly say "don't fight ghouls attacking humans" but the fact still remains Heinz didn't even try to ask. He has no idea which villages were just trying to live and which had given into their hatred and were an absolute threat to humans. So even if you go with the idea that no matter Heinz can't just let the ghouls kill humans even if they deserve it he still didn't bother to find out if that was even the case.

    Neinz deserves no sympathy because everything is his fault. HE chose to capture Darcia for the "crime" of marrying a vampire. He chose to go around acting like a Wannabee hero without bothering to question his actions. He chose to ignore his own instincts when they told him something wasn't right regarding the ghouls.

    From start to finish he had chances to ask questions and change himself. But all he cares about is satisfying his guilty conscience so he can act like a hero. He doesn't care if innocent people die as long as he doesn't have to feel responsible for it.
     
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    Van even asked Heinz if the Ghouls that has been attacking humans attacked in self-defense. Or if he even made sure of the Ghouls being aggressive.