Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

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  1. xacual

    xacual Well-Known Member

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    Of course he would. Look at what he did after he tried to kill Van saying Van was way too big a threat now and had to be killed. He left Selene in the same city as Van when he was told he would die if he went back there and that Alda wants him to go to Amid. He then rationalized to himself that going to Amid would be unsafe for Selene. It’s like hello? You just tried to kill a guy you said had to die because he was a threat to the world and it’s safer for your adopted pet, sorry I mean daughter, to be left within basically arm’s reach.

    Well I mean he was right. His allies over in Amid would definitely eliminate Selene. Alda would certainly do it.

    I’m honestly still hoping for Heinz’ group to fall apart. Like come on Jennifer and Deanna, you two were shown to at least have a few brain cells, do you really want to join the side that’s going to attack the kingdom you were born and raised in?
     
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    How rude. Bakunawa isn't going to eat anyone you know? He properly learnt and memorised everyone taste by licking them and will spit them out before biting. :blobReach:


    It is Alda we are talking, I don't doubt it.

    Also, by claiming himself as such is a attemp to make him look bigger, Alda is losing a hell lot of faith recently and credibility too.

    Alda is trying to spread his authority and putting himself in a higher spot to try squeasy more faith of his believers, avoid losing them by making him look greater and intimidate any opposition.

    Well, it will be a shot in his foot in Orbaum, a God who did not make a direct move like Vida, whose heroes could not reach Guduranis (and even panicked) and made nothing to help rebuild Orbaum is self proclaiming himself as a super dupper god... It is as pathetic as Asagi giving a heroic speech.

    I think mirg shield nation might become a new battlefield whose war damage will be mainly caused by Alda heroes.

    This country as already in a bad spot as a vassal nation. He is a shield for amid empire, however, Amid has a spear on Mirg's back and now with Alda who doesn't givea fuck about human countries, only believers, would set even more thorns on mirg back and use it as a "death soldier" nation... or like one of those disposable criminal slaves units.

    If Van plays his cards right, after winning his first battle there, he could reveal both Thomas Palpapek and Amid Empire noblemen involvement with HIhiryu Vampires, fuel people dissaticfaction with Amid Empire, grant them "protection" from 6 great gods against the one who is putting them in a tight spot, make effective politices like reducing taxes,helping the poor, etc.

    He can also make full use of the family members of that Earl family that defected to Talosheim... Both those who are under him and those left behind.

    If those left behind.... cousins, uncles and so on who were married in other families and thus unable to even get to know the true of everything get dissatified about their defected family members showing up all Van needs to do is scary them a bit give'em preferential treatment as long as they work properly, what about the position of marshall or another leadership position? Not to mention be the first ones to enjoy the benefits of all supports, incentives and investiments of Van Empire.

    Your country is devasted by war? Van fixes it at full march. Many lives were lost in the past years and Mirg can't join the fight vs Amid? No problem, take your time to focus on internal affairs and leave the war to us, by the way we are going to do many free idol shows to the public to help everyone reaquire motivation and reason to live (guidance mood). :blob_coffee:

    Van can even get more "agressive" and let schneider make a tour with his DK Familiar main body type across Amid Empire and have Gufa teleport all the instant guided ones to him. :blobpeek:

    There are so many options for him that not only would it be long to descrive, I can't decide which option to talk to. Either way everything will get interesting and Alda more despaired. :blob_ghost:

    Can't wait for that town in Van birthplace to realise he is the damphir they persecuted and whose mother they killed. Let them despair and everyone from kids to adults and old men knee in the ground and beg for forgiviness while blaming everything on Alda and the church. :blobwhistle:
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    This could be the title of an entire story of its own.

    The fact that Van can do those things is not very humanlike, though...

    Well, Van's accomplishments are already covered by other titles, but those titles have nothing to do with his weirdness.

    Okay, it's cool that she has the basic alien beauty build (à la Kaguya Otsutsuki, Butterflaizen, etc.), but does her third eye have special powers?

    How does Alda plan to do that, exactly? Ruling an empire directly from the heavens is just not how things are done. That's why he needs his religion to be his mouthpiece.

    Harming and defeating are not the same thing. Van could be sealed away, for example.

    Also, and more importantly, Heinz is complacent. He wants to make positive changes, but he's too comfortable with the current world order to realize that vision. So his attempts at reform are half-assed. And when Alda bosses him around, he folds like a house of cards.

    Maybe that town is now deserted? I mean, Van crippled their economy.
     
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    The town is definitely in ruins, although I would like to see Van returning to the cave where he was born and after almost 40 years he discovered what it felt like to be alive.

    I just realized that the reason the relatives didn't pass out is because of Van's new skill upgrade, now it seems like every time the main server crashes (something that will happen a lot in the future especially when it comes the rebellious phase to their children) the other terminals will not fail.
     
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    I thought not
    Heinz ideal is the closest to Alda original intention before the extremist make it awkward.
    They're both believe in justice and sacrifice is necessary to make it happen.
    As long as Alda do nothing to Selen, Heinz will never fucking care other opinions.
     
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    Imdont think that justice is the right word for Alda. Alda's goal is to make Lambda the way it was NORMALLY as, 100 000 years ago. Just like you said no matter how many sacrifices. No DK Gud monsters and Vida's progeny with other evil gods (only exception are her children with other gods etc. like Titans with Talos, Dark elves with the elf who served her). Just like the post a few pages explained what Bellwood is Alda is like a conservative. He doesnt like the changes because bellwood scared him that it will only a short term solution and it will be a failure on the following years. The reason Amid is super extreme in their religion is its bellwood country and Alda and his factions are said to give more prophecy here than any other nation.

    Jennifer yes if she where to see how cruel the Alda faction is in Amid. Diana might not be able to because she is connected to a god in Alda's faction, Mill as her priestess. Deanna and Diana are to seperate people, Diana is the elf priestess in Heinz party and Deanna is Talos twin the goddess of the moon
     
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    If Van said the right word, Mirg will definitely abandon Amid. Imagine if they were able to join Orbeum kingdom or even Vidal, the pros heavily stacked the cons. They might be able to get trades or even they can run and get asylium to those kingdom. Vidal Empire is destined to be a prospherous kingdom with the location they where in, the devil's nest that are thick with mana. Look at Talosheim even if it was a half devil's nest the titans 200 years ago were able to thrive, its rich with dungeons (meaning advantagous to any guild) there crop grows much faster andbountifull and also the government of mirg themselves want to increase their land to the devil's nest because of the latters benefits. The price they have to pay is to betray Amid and convert to Vida if they choosed to run in Vidal if in Orbeum depending in the place they can still pray to Alda. Converting to Vida is relatively easy because her teachings are very simple just like the peoplw in Jahan's they were able to easily adapt and srly citizens there would very much be iritatedto Amid what it takes is someone to entice them that wont neverbe the shield like their name Mirg Shield they would or some would happily migrate. Honestly if Alda aregoing to use them as a large cannon fodder for Amid. Mirg might bethe battlegroundif warwereto happen.
     
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    I doubt that Mirg will surrender, with a part of the population it would be possible rational, but it is a minority compared to the rest that they are citizens of the empire with all the bad that this means, although I also feel a little sorry for the Mirg nation, they are in The middle of an empire that for centuries used them as cannon fodder and is now in command of the worst dictator in the history of their world, and on the other side are two other empires, one with which they have hated each other for generations and another that it is the most recent but that it is full of individuals that could level the entire kingdom in a couple of days and that it is directed by a vengeful alien god with the ability to devastate worlds and who has very bad memories of his stay in the kingdom, If I lived there and knew half the things I know about this story, I would jump out of the nearest ravine with my last thought being to go to Talosheim.
     
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    Mirg earns hatred form both erection kingdoms and Undead Titan.
    Van may be show mercy against civilians but he will kill all military personal to the last man without caring.
    If that happens Mirg will totally fuck itself and without the best governer Earl Thomas Palpapek to control the mood... Its people will total Alda policy and march them to death.
     
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    I'm having dreams about death mage.
     
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    Reading it again and again while "patiently" waiting for the rest of the raws to be translated.
     
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    Remember how Kurt Legstrom felt after meeting Van, have a talk with his deseased older brother and know the truth about Thomas Palpapek [+Mirg invasion to Talosheim instigated by Vampires, traitors...]

    Kurt jumped into Van boat and from the 100 soldiers under him in the fort he was in charge of, over 90 of them changed sides too.

    Kurt's Earl main family member&aides also defected to Talosheim. Don't matter which country, everyone just want to live and mind their own business.

    Thus it is perfectly possible for the majority of Mirg Country to surrender to Van and just like Alda Gods Group is sending DM to their priests to make a fuss in Orbaum's duchies it is also possible for Zuruwarn, Ricklent, Botin, Peria and even Pharmaun ("Pharmaun Hero Candidates are Vidal Emperor Friends" - Casim & cia - ) to send DM to mess with them too.

    Zuruwarn, Ricklent, Botin, Peria and Pharmaun sending DM to their churchs to praise, welcome and DON'T FEAR the demon king slayer occuping the Mirg country to try to calm the public and their priests and gather supporters for Van smoothly.

    If hero candidates are sent to sabotage Van it is easy peasy for Van to make them disappear. Alda faction would likely order their priests and heroes to run to some other vassal nation as not to reduce their fighting strenght in useless skirmirsh.
     
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    Yes, but how tough? Yeah, they sealed Gudu, but remember that they had to saw both his body and soul apart to do it and even then it was really poorly done. And when it comes to Van ine have to concider that unless they do it now they won't be able to do it anymore later with Van becoming a Worm's Entity! A Worm's Entiity that is still evolving because somehow he still is part of the system!

    Ah, yes, the power of a good health plan and paid vacations!:blob_grin:
     
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    remember that unlike Ourbane where although the inequality is very strong there is still a more than reasonable treatment of VIda's races, Mirg is more Ardaist, perhaps not to the point of rejecting them completely, but the vast majority of people do not have much problem in seeing a lynching of races of life, although as I said above and with what this agrees with you is that if there are many people who will look after their interests and change sides, but possibly Van will not let them all in, or he may that if he does or he may not let any of them in, Van's decisions are usually a mystery to us, sometimes his answers are those of a normal isekai protagonist, others seem like an xianxia leader, others seem like those of a child and others that of someone according to their age, although that is part of the grace
     
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    Raw's up: http://ncode.syosetu.com/n1745ct/468/

    Edit Only 10 years too late, Alda finally implements some partial reconciliation with the non monster-type Vida races. Remember, this is something he agreed to do quite early on in the story.

    While this is going on, the moon is the sky suddenly becomes huge and an eye appears. Heinz decides to slash first and ask questions later and the large moon vanishes. Turns out it was Aradia manifesting her power already - she was wondering where Papa's enemies were. She doesn't really understand what happened and is basically unharmed.
     
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    So there was basically no applause or cheers at hearing Alda was now the leader of the empire and that it would become a sacred / holy empire instead.

    I love it.
     
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    lol when Alda fails his people will be fine now that he has freed all the Vida races. Not only can he get more forces to fight van but when he looses van cant really justify destroying them all after all Alda is trying for equality now

    first time Alda has done a smart move

    shame would have liked to see amid be a smoking ruin oh well (after van rescue the last of vida's races)
     
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    It was a dumb move. He forced the reconciliation faction’s beliefs on an empire of people that weren’t interested in it. He just created a huge amount of dissatisfaction among the populace immediately after telling them that nothing would change about how they were being governed. Even the puppet emperor is expecting it to fall apart like a deck of cards once the awe of Alda wears off.

    All for the sake of not letting Van get all the Vida races in the Empire. People that aren’t going to forget how they’ve been treated for the last thousands of years.
     
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    The question is what does reconciliation mean in practice. Vida's races practically have been treated as slaves. How does that moron plan to deal with it? He will ether simply disappoint Vida's races and make it easier for Van to guide them or completely crush the economy of his last remaining hope...
     
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