Discussion Translations Stolen and Sold on Amazon

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Butters, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. Vanidor

    Vanidor Well-Known Member

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    Amazon has rules on taking other people's works and also website scrapping. It happens a lot though so they have a hard time keeping up. You could make an official account there and set it for free though if you wanted.

    Also, if you do a fan translation you have the right to that fan translation, no one else can use it. The original author, or whoever he assigned license to, could block you posting it but you own the translation not him/her.
     
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  2. Kadmos1

    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    Person A complaining about Person B stealing A's fan translation of a copyrighted work when fan translations tends to be piracy. Ironic.
     
  3. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    Amazon has reporting system from what Ai-chan remember. Ai-chan's book on Amazon was reported twice. So there was surely a report option. Report the book as plagiarized and show the original. Amazon will know what to do.

    Amazon may be douchebags, but they don't play around with plagiarism. But you need to report it. They won't do anything if it's not reported. Report it soon, because Amazon holds payment for a period of time. So when you report before Amazon pays the dude, the dude will not get anything as Amazon will freeze his account.

    If anyone found Ai-chan's books also sold on Amazon, please inform Ai-chan too.
     
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  4. jintingmei

    jintingmei Well-Known Member

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    Of course people are gonna complain. Especially with Google DMCAs. They're always reluctant to demonetize aggregators on stuff that I translate with author's permission and even licensed work. For me, the monetization of other's work is the problem.
     
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    @Jaspaaar sorry to bug ya. I did go to report it through the nice little reporting thing that Amazon has, but got an email back that I need things like a company name, copyright number (or something, sorry my brain is goo), and to give basically all of my personal info. I'm not super crazy about that so I stopped, is that the only way?

    In the end, I know that aggregators picking it up, or that random person on wattpad who took my translation, subbed in all the names with BTS members and tried to play it off as fanfiction, are inevitable. However, no one should be tricked into paying for it since it's free to read. Not to mention a small amount of bitterness related to how long I spent crafting such beautiful porn, for no gain other than spiritual, and then having someone else try selling it.

    Novel updates is super easy to use...there's no need to use an agg site as far as I think, but who needs my thoughts?
     
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  6. Lazriser

    Lazriser Well-Known Member

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    One is fan translating and the other is profiting from said translation without regards to the "rules" and author.
     
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  7. Kadmos1

    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    O.K., both are piracy unless it was an approved by the creators and/or rights-holders. However, at leas the one not profiting is more of an "ethical pirate" (an oxymoron, I know).
     
  8. Lazriser

    Lazriser Well-Known Member

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    Everyone here is a pirate. No need to deny it, mate. You're a pirate as well. Ironically, pirates were democratic and valued the code; and what do we do to them oath breakers? We make them walk the plank, aye! Say it with me, lads and lasses! Off to the bottom of the seas they go!

    I would honestly be surprise there are folks here in the forum and never once read a chapter released in the main site.
     
  9. Kadmos1

    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    Also, let's not forget that 1 of the best sites to watch anime legally, Crunchyroll, started out as a pirated stream-hosting site.
     
  10. Needyneedle

    Needyneedle Crimson's Melissa and the Blackjack of Chaos.

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    Whaaat? I didn't know this! I always thought they legally host those shows. :blobastonished:
     
  11. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Magical Girl of Love and Justice』

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    Nowadays all shows there are legally licensed~

    That's not how the site started though, it was just an anime aggregator back in the day.
     
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  12. Kadmos1

    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    The time fram of when CR did the great purge of their pirated links was from around Thanksgiving 2008 and through the second full week of Jan. 2009. Now while many video pages were removed, the pages that has info about the shows are still intact. Some of the pirated titles would be eventually brought back but as an official upload.
     
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  13. Chrono Vlad

    Chrono Vlad 『Banned From Drinking』

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    And now their subpar works are being stolen

    How ironic.
     
  14. Kadmos1

    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, it would be nice if we had a few more licensing companies for anime, manga, and light/web novels for the U.S. By this, I mean having at least 10-15 major licensors. One can make the argument that Funimation and Crunchyroll are somewhat monopolizing anime licensing. However, considering the anime market here in the U.S. is smaller than the domestic movie market (box office wise), the anime licensing semi-monopoly is more justified than the Big 6 major American movie companies (Disney, Lionsgate, WB, Universal, Paramount, and Sony Pictures).
     
  15. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    so far Japan still focus on it domestic market, well there rumour Japan company starting to peek at international (english speaking country) market~
    for manga, depend on country cuz well on asia manga flooding comic market~ its too point more familiar with manga compared with comic~ dunno about Europe or NA region~
     
  16. IndhiraG

    IndhiraG New Member

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    now they are making the profit off other people's labour...that's awful