Discussion Redundancy and idiocy in naming of new magitech in fantasy worlds

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  1. canaria23

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    Why bother adding magic to anything and everything when it is newly introduced where there nothing normal to compare it to. The difference on normal technology and Magitech should only be the power source and power distribution modules and everything would be pretty much the same, mechanics, mathematics, etc. Should still be applicable in everything.

    Ex. Mc made a gramophone, there was no gramophone ever made yet before, he added "magic" when its not needed.

    Ex. 2 new world is based on magic instead of science, the lecture courses are magic geometry, etc. The normal stuff but they don't have math and science. The idiocy of it. How can they have geometry when they don't have math. The world is full of idiots.
     
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    Methinks it's for the readers' benefit, letting them know that sh*t is magic, so it will not be expected to follow any known logic. :blobhyperthink:
     
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    Probably because the mcs got no idea about the inner structure of the item in question (or how it is made), in other words he/she made the shape or the outer shell of the item in question and swapped the internal critical parts that should make the item function with magic or magic circuits or whatever you want to call it, or they just want to improve them maybe :hmm:
    Let us be honest here, if anyone of us goes to an isekai, how confident are we of remaking our modern there :blobsweat_2:
     
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    Seems like this is referring to magic industry empire
     
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    For the 1st ex, if the MC was isekai-ed from our world then it's normal for him/her to use such name.

    For the 2nd ex, that's sounds like a plot hole for me.
     
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    Math is not magic until the Reiman hypothesis gets proven...
     
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    I'm gonna take reference from throne of magical arcana...
    So, mc do make some magic gramaphone, but it upgrade the spec of the said item...
    And on the mathematics, science, etc..
    In taking reference in there, they do use advance knowledge BUT not as advance as our modern world
    Some technology simply can be used but they don't know how it happen, kinda brute force your way, so they research it using arcana study

    MC appear in this novel simply to help hasten the progress of this development, he admit it himself that grand arcanist is not an idiot, give them years of research and they will land on some correct answer for many problem...

    So it all depend on author(?)
     
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    fixed it
     
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    Yeah, i also was reminded about it.
    I cringed when author was explaining technicalities of the magic fan. After that i just skipped similar parts.
     
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    What even, in a world of magic the study of magic is part of science
     
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    "Why bother adding magic to anything and everything when it is newly introduced where there nothing normal to compare it to."
    Then—>
    "the lecture courses are magic geometry, etc. The normal stuff but they don't have math and science. The idiocy of it. How can they have geometry when they don't have math."
    Umm... You realize you just answer your own question right ?
     
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    Dude, the the intro is general, its okay to add magic if there was already a normal none magical product but most cases dont.

    the 2nd example literally doesn't have math, how can they calculate anything without math, the novel even said that math and science is a myth.
    Exactly, in the throne of magical arcana, science is just named arcana but still science in essence, but in the 2nd example science and math are literally myths
     
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    Discovery and development of new school of studies actually possible to be in parallel to each other. In example Anthropology, Sociology, and Psychology used to be a single school of studies just like astrology, geology and study of physics. So it is possible for a civilization to develop a study of mathematics as a complementary branch of other studies.
     
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    Yes like the general wizard novels science and mathematics exist in different forms, even in cultivation novels they don't reject math , but novel in example 2 literally rejected that right at the beginning of the novel
     
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    oh~
    plotholes?
    da lost technology~
    maybe they just have basic mathematics? hmm aritmatic? but how they build magnificent building if such thing exist?
    Imagination?
     
  17. UnGrave

    UnGrave ななひ~^^

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    Am I the only one who has been studying extensively for the past 4 years on specifically how to rebuild different modern technologies from scratch? At the very least I would be able to make a computer which I would include the word 'magic' when disigning the components since I could probably make some cool new architecture using magic principles.
     
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