Spoiler The Villainess Reverses the Hourglass

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  1. chax412

    chax412 Well-Known Member

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    chapter 35 of the raws just came out ! this is MTL so far but here's what I got

    Aria is appointed a new maid by Mielle (who is ofc a spy) called Berry, and Aria is counting on Annie and Jessie -- who are now her 'play maids' (kinda like lady in waiting I guess) and dress well and all -- to make her life a hell. Aria remembers the past when she was tricked by Mielle, with Berry, who was a spy. She was the one who proposed to Aria to poison Mielle's tea and claimed that Aria was the one who ordered her to do so, which led our Aria to be sentenced to death in the Og timeline... Then Aria goes to Asher's secret meeting (still has no idea he's the crown prince, she's so smart how come she hasn't figured out yet ?) and her opinion about the casino gets evaluated by Asher. The other nobles appreciate Aria and told her they didn't know she was this wise. Then everybody leaves, and Asher asks Lane to leave too to stay alone with Aria aww. They talk but she's like 'I still don't know who you are yk' and the chapter ends with her telling him 'Today is the day I want to hear the truth from your mouth'........

    *I read the novel but skipped some parts and I actually dk when he's gonna tell her he's the crown prince. If I recall well he doesn't tell her after the meeting yet. Anybody knows exactly when ? I thought it was when they were already dating, but it sounds weird that Aria (so skeptical and smart all) would start going out with someone she ignores the identity of. If anyone know anything abt it pleaaaase enlighten me :blobangel:
     
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    Thank you
     
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    He told her before they started dating.
    It was after Asher attended the Investor A meeting under the name of Pinonua Louie (Lane's cousin). He brought her to his villa in the woods and told her the truth. But I think even before he told her who he was, it was hinted that Aria was interested in Asher as she kept thinking about him and blushed at his words whereas in the past she didn't care when men talked sweetly to her.
    She had suspicions that he was related to the royal family at least, but never thought he would be the crown prince himself. His mannerism doesn't exactly suit a crown prince, and I think no one expects the heir of the throne to be running around all over the country like he does (which is possible because of his ability). In the original timeline, the crown prince ended up defeated by Isis, so her impression of him wasn't that good in the first place. She thought the original crown prince must be ugly and useless LMAO
     
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    Annoying thing is she takes her sweet time to let him know she was investor A
     
  5. SkyeAether528

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    Anyway which chapter when they started dating?
     
  6. octoooth

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    Aria may be cruel but it's her environment that made her like that. Milele is the sociopath she tried to kill aria on several occasions and even killed her mother in the OG timeline. Aria is desperately trying to survive Milele's attacks. The count did give her money and status but he took all her credit for what she did. He may love his own children more than aria but that doesn't excuse the fact that he didn't acknowledge her and treat her with respect. Aria is surrounded by lie and was constantly manipulated just for being a prostitutes daughter. So she is trying to gain power and is working hard. There are alot of stories where the FL reaches success only because of the handsome and powerful ML while aria gains success on her own. Asher helps her but doesn't hold her hand every step of the way and she helps him to. Milele has been constantly trying to make her life a living hell and even trying to kill her on multiple occasions just to have her killed is not enough she needs to learn. Milele is a sociopath because she doesn't care about anyone while aria does. Aria rewards the people who help her with wealth and status. Milele doesn't she paralysed her father, who cared for her greatly just to blame aria.
     
  7. The Lazy Slug

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    Hello! I know this is unrelated to this story/thread, but just a quick interjection. I would like to know from what manga did the two images with the white-haired girl come from? Both the one with the close-up, and the other where there are three of them in the pic. Thanks! @Marinette
     
  8. chax412

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    Hey @The Lazy Slug are you perhaps talking about "THE ABANDONED EMPRESS" ? Aristia La Monique would be the white / silver haired girl you're talking about
     
  9. GoneGretel

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    Thank you for the spoilers!!! :blobparty:
     
  10. ATrueStory

    ATrueStory Villainesses, Historical Shit, Noble Circuses

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    Every time I read the webtoon, I always wonder how Aria wears those huge earrings. I am an earring fan myself but those seem way too heavy.
     
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    Lol Ikr! I was like, umm wearing these hurts """)
    but oh well maybe the artist's way to show her as "fancy" looking to the other details -
     
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    I don't know why people assume this about writers, just from someone who's writing as a hobby I'd rather say that it's not like that at all.

    Each and every Author's got a style to write, not only by something they want or some hidden anger they want to show because this would be childish, no?

    For me, for example I'd write about things I disliked from other manga/novel/manhwa/webtoon because I'd add some details since it'd be unexpected due to the "similar plot"
    This is just a way~
    For pro Authors if you notice, since they know, they look for what the reads want ~
    They write in their own language so naturally it's for "that country" and what goes in there.
    There's that "second life" theme trend, either by someone from the present moving to a villain's body or the character herself repeating her life as a second chance.
    So it's more of a competition between Authors. Try to read Japanese novels under the same theme, like " the common sense of a Duke's daughter " or any of the villain herself repeating her life and you'd really get what I mean.
     
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  13. VioletBlue

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    I happened to read the webtoon yasterday and this got my interested enough to read the novel. I know its completley translated but seems I will have to pay for chapters. I have no plan to start over so, can someone kindly tell me from where should I start the novel? I read the webtoon till ch 36 where she went for gambling
     
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    yes but its the CURRENT aria thats cruel and more intellectual
    past aria was just plain fucking stupid and got her end as deserved
    like bruh, if someone goaded me to poison the bitch i hate, i would do a double take. But ofc, thats me speculating from a third person perspective, and have been no way shape or form been actually threatened by an existance, other than silently wishing for certain some people to become road kill. But i think most of us can agree she wasnt the brightest bulb in the basket. Esp with her tantrums and her refusal to fit in or try in the first life. maybe she did idk
     
  15. Shizun

    Shizun 《Jack of all trades》《Artist/Author》《Dao of BLedia》

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    The author was likely going in the line that mc wasnt taught properly and considering ppl in her new environment were double faced...

    Sure she wasn't that smart in the first timeline. But she didn't have proper education and her surroundings didnt help either. One would need to put oneself into her role to actually understand her.

    A child depends on someone and in this case it was mc depending on the maids in her surroundings. However, they were all planned spies. And then dying by her step sis plan without lifting any hand and being told that everything was just planned and everything was a lie that mc lived.... it can make any person crazy. So her taking revenge is understandable from the beginning of 2nd timeline.

    A personality is not only build from oneself but also from the environment and surroundings.

    Not excusing everything mc for being like that in the 2nd timeline. But understandably. Sure. Some parts she did were childish. Like the pranks she did to her step sis and then reversed it. But living in that situation and remembering the past... and need to wear a mask all day along and can only fight via actions and words. It can get tiring. So yea i dont blame mc for it at all.

    And anyone blaming only mc in the 2nd timeline for taking revenge early on? Just because step sis didnt do anything yet? It was obvious step sis hated mc very much. And murder was no obstacle. So why should it be any different in the 2nd timeline?. Anything for survival. Sure. There was likely a case its a parallel universe where everything is different and mc could have been more observant and thought it was a possibility. However, its a setting in the past so yea. Sth like returning to the past or ending up in a parallel universe is likely unheard of.

    Anyways first impression is everything. And reacting and planning first is important. . Especially step sis had a lot of supporters. Ofc it would be better if mc observed abit more but i guess she was so consumed by anger she went passed through it. But it fits mc's personality cuz she is sorta fierce.

    In short. Everyone is different. Everyone has their own thoughts and opinions. One cant compare oneself own experience to others or in this case mc experience, unless u experienced the same thing, but its still not 100% because anyone's personality is different. And based on it ppl react differently. Some learn stuff better, some not. Others have better instinct, and the others have non at all. If one rlly wants to understand someone. Put urself in that someone's shoes and their experience. Without adding ur own into it.

    Edit: Might sound to some ppl that like im painting the mc to be a saint or like justice is on her side above. To make it clear. I don't think of her like that. It's clip and clear she wants revenge in the story.

    Just wanted to point things out more clearly cuz noticed ppl focus alot more on mc and speak of their own opinion and decision like if they were the mc, they wouldve done it differently and etc

    Anyways. Mc and step sis. The both of them aint good ppl.
     
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  16. kawaii12345

    kawaii12345 Well-Known Member

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    Read this to the end and more or less Aria doesn't want justice she wants to be Mielle of timeline 1. That's exactly what happens. If you hate Mielle you should hate Scarlett just as much. Everything Mielle did Aria did the same and worse
     
  17. Shizun

    Shizun 《Jack of all trades》《Artist/Author》《Dao of BLedia》

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    Ehm. It's revenge so ofc. Just noticed ppl are more focused on mc, instead of seeing the worst of both of them.
     
  18. ATrueStory

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    For some who do writing as a way to sustain me, hell effing yes!
    Authors have audiences and these audiences are their primary market. Emphasis on the 'market'. Writing is a service and a product. If you read a novel and you don't like it, it's fine.
    But it's effing borderline to accuse authors of writing something nasty or objectifiable to one's personal taste or morals when they aren't the demographic. You can have your opinion, criticism, and the s whole shebang but it can mean nothing for the author who already finished it.


    This should be pinned to this thread.
     
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  19. Shizun

    Shizun 《Jack of all trades》《Artist/Author》《Dao of BLedia》

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    Define mature realistic endings for villians. A good example would be nice. Ty.
     
  20. VioletBlue

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    I didnt read the thread yet, but it quit surprising to me people hate her for revenge .. since I can tell most of the people got tired of forgiven path.

    Well I dont tottally love the MC, But I find her acceptable. And I love she really a villian not i will be good girl this time line kind of MC( I like un usual storis and characters).

    And honestly If I know a person look down at me and will kill me andd take advandge of me .. Would I have a reason to not atack them first? The thing bothered me is when she srsly thought every thing will just go as she please. Life never that way and it's a common sense to know if u have a plan and failed you will find another. So she should have expected milli may try new plan since MC changed but MC seems clueless about this.

    The only one I felt bad for id milli fancee, he is so naive and he just been played with by every single person