Discussion Do you empathize with villains?

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Do you empathize villainous roles?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe, but leaning to a yes.

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  4. Maybe, but leaning to a no.

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  1. Lazriser

    Lazriser Well-Known Member

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    Fiction or real life figures. Do you feel empathy with them?

    You may or may not state your reasons as to why. You may or may not state which villain you empathize with.

    1-dimensional villains don't count, because villainy exists for a reason. All evils stem from a reason lacking thereof good qualities of humanity.
     
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  2. Melodious Nocturne

    Melodious Nocturne [Dance, water, dance!] [My name is Demyx!]

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    *is a villain* (>ω>) *votes “yes”*
     
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    Juju48 Well-Known Member

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    I’m such a softy! Most villains have such terrible backstories! I just want to give them all big squishy hugs! Why can’t we all just get along!
     
  4. animefan217

    animefan217 Well-Known Member

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    Depends on how much or bad stuff thy did and i they earned or tried redemption example no empathy for re creators altair.
     
  5. Bloodysin28

    Bloodysin28 The victim of true evil that is reality

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    I like well written villians far more than any White Knight mc precisely because the feel human and reliable, plus the concept of good and evil is nothing more than made up justification for a rule of thought,it is not an absolute law such as the various laws of physics,it is made up by certain mentality to firm the backbone of society. Reality just exists.
     
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  6. Fluffy Jellyfish

    Fluffy Jellyfish 『Number 1 Lolicon under Heaven』

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    when MC is portrayed as the good one while what he actually do is worse than a villain

    Yeah, I will emphatize with the villain
     
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  7. TokioftheBel

    TokioftheBel Well-Known Member

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    For me it's a maybe. It all depends on how much I like the villain and how much I like the protagonist
     
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  8. kuroAnsatsu

    kuroAnsatsu Realistically Stoic

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    Naruto is one of many fictions that has the most relatable villains that I had read. I mean look at Itachi, the choices that he had to make is no joke, eventually he failed and let his brother lives, but that's the proof of him still have a human heart.

    Edit: let's not forget Pain's speech > Naruto's speech
     
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  9. Kadmos1

    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    Before I saw your post, I was actually thinking about Nagato. While Nagato was evil to a degree, as were Obito and Itachi, the reasons I am more forgiving of Nagato are these main reasons: I am a Nagato fan boy. Also, he was able of resurrecting 100s of the people whose deaths he was directly or indirectly responsible for when he used Rinne Tensei.
     
  10. kuroAnsatsu

    kuroAnsatsu Realistically Stoic

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    Yeah, everything what Nagato had said makes a lot of sense although his plan and actions are immoral, he does all of his deeds based on his own justice and he's self conscious what he's doing is monstrous. He decided to still believe in Naruto so he gave him a chance by resurrecting those people that he killed before, and let Naruto do his way of gaining peace
     
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    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    Between Obito and Nagato's reasons for going to the Dark Side, let's be honest here: Obito became evil to a degree because he was essentially friend-zoned. As such, I am glad that Obito died again.
     
  12. kuroAnsatsu

    kuroAnsatsu Realistically Stoic

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    Lol, he wants to have a nice dream when he can be together with her and never wake up, his reason were kind of sad in a way. At least he's not stubborn until the end although everything he had done is a pain in the ass
     
  13. Fulminata

    Fulminata Typo-ist | Officer of Heavenly Inc. |

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    Yes! Most of the time, these villains characters are being depicted as someone who set their eyes on something and passionately pursue it until the end of the world, rules and society be damned. I think that there's something fascinating in that, for giving into your desire and skewed vision when all logics and existing social structure order you to do otherwise. I'm not sure if this counts as "emphatizing", as i don't think that i will feel sad or anything like that. More like seeing and appreciating a pretty flower by the roadside? But well, they're simply compelling in a skewed way. :aww:
     
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  14. JosephGraham

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    most of times villains become those who didn't receieve enough attention and loove back then and now they are too cold
     
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    I've had trouble taking the side of protagonists' whole heartedly ever since I started reading those white lotus novels. Just think about it, what if all those naive protagonists know what's going on but the readers don't know. And they scheme all of it and get everyone's love including ours. And they twist how everyone looks at the villains.
     
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    i choose no or yes It's depend on the villain if i like the villain i will choose yes if not so no
     
  17. AQZ

    AQZ 《[re]tired frog》

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    Generally speaking, most of them were raised in bad environments and influenced to do what they did, with those situations I'll empathize with them. Other times they use their history to justify their actions and don't realize their faults, usually I just think those villains are narrow-minded, so it makes sense that they would never beat the protag.
     
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  18. Shizukani

    Shizukani Chronically stressed

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    Same with her/his answer. I ask myself this question too a bit too often. :blob_teary:
    Most of the time I lean towards finding the backstory and reason why the villain is doing what he is doing and yeah... I end up emphatizing with them. Then again a lot of stories nowadays are with characters who are evil for the sake of being evil(usually in chinese novels), in which case I can't relate to them at all.

    (Also, good question.)
     
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  19. _BlissCity_

    _BlissCity_ head above the clouds

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    Samee...
    To be honest, I idolize all villains for pursuing what they like without being bounded by rules and such. To me, they are very brave and very strong. I envy them because I don't have that kind of courage.

    Sometimes, I sympathize with them since most villains have terrible backgrounds why they became, well, "villains".

    Sometimes, I hate them because why the hell would they cause trouble to others?! Having a hard life doesn't give you the right to give others that shit too. If you have that shit, just accept it and live. We all have different kinds of shit. Some people are just unlucky and drew the shorter end of the stick.

    Almost forgot, not all villains have terrible backgrounds. Some are just bored and wants to have a little excitement with their lives. I really don't get this types of villains. Dude, if you're bored, why the hell would you drag others down with you?! If you want to die, go die alone!

    In short, I have a love-hate feelings for them. =_=
     
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    Well,it depends.
    Like if it is a pyscotic idiot I don't give a damn,but if he has a backstory which is quite relatable even in the least I'll support that villain/villainess.
     
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