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  1. Fluffy Jellyfish

    Fluffy Jellyfish 『Number 1 Lolicon under Heaven』

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    So here we go..

    I'm kinda curious as what novels you considered as a must on introducing various genre available in web novel. It doesn't need to be considered a good reading experience

    For me :

    • Coiling Dragon and Soul Land as the introduction novel to Eastern Fantasy
    • Sword Art Online as the introduction novel to Japanese VRMMORPG
    • Zhan Long as the introduction novel to Chinese VRMMORPG
    • Legendary Moonlight Sculptor as the introduction to Korea VRMMORPG
    • Shield Hero and Mushoku Tensei as the introduction to Isekai genre
    • Realist Hero as the introduction to Kingdom Building genre
    • Against the Gods as the introduction to trashy wish-fulfillment harem
    • My Beautiful Wife is the CEO as the introduction to OP MC and wish-fulfillment harem in modenr
    • A Slight Smile is Very Charming as the introduction to female gamer
    I don't really know about the shoujo kind, maybe this thread will introduce me to the world of shoujo?
     
  2. Daresan

    Daresan Well-Known CN Master

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    I would say it depends on genre and each novels can be read even if you are begginner. Here is list of what i liked and what i thought were trashy


    Kingdom building

    Tales of Reincarnated lord ( Second best in Kingdom building)
    Amber sword ( Average)
    Realist hero rebuilt the kingdom ( kinda ok)
    Enlightened Empire (RR) ( kinda ok)
    Rise of lords ( above average )
    The World online ( MMo rpg) ( Trashy)
    Lord's Empire (MMo rpg) ( Trashy )
    Road to Kingdom ( Average )
    World of Warcraft foreign realm domination ( Below Average)
    I am the monarch ( Average )
    Hail the king ( trashy )
    Sevens ( Kinda ok)
    Kingdom's bloodline ( above Average )


    Good power trips with little bit kingdom building

    History's number one founder ( Average )
    History's strongest senior brother ( Average )
    Master of Untold daos ( Below Average)
    To be power in shadows ( Kinda ok)
    Low-dimension game ( best power trip around)
    Forgotten conqueror (RR)
    Library of heaven's path ( Ultimate face slapping)
    Emperor's domination ( Trashy )
    Number one under heaven ( Gem )
    Invisible dragon ( Best of all time )


    Absolute best novels mostly not kingdom building

    1. Lord of Mysteries ( There is no competition hands down )
    2. Martial Arts Master ( Best Romance + Action)
    3. My house of horrors ( Best horror + Thriller)
    4. Overlord ( Best Jap Novel + Excellent world building )
    5. I shall seal the heavens + Reverend insanity + Renegade immortal + WMW ( Best CN cultivation novels + mature shounen)
    6. Way of the devil + Carefree path of dreams + Mystical journey ( Best adventure + travelling novel + Mature shounen )
    7. Release that Witch ( Best kingdom building + Military)
    8. Throne of Magical Arcana ( Excellent world building + adventure )
    9. Trafford's Trading club ( Best Psychological + OP MC novel - Sadly translation has stopped )
    10. Ze Tian ji + World of Cultivation + Zhu xian ( Good plot + Cultivation )
    11. Cultivation chat group + legend of sun knight ( good comedy novels )

    No particular order here all the given novels are awesome.

    For initial hype and then to trash it later to be cool kid in the block.

    1. Against the gods ( Actually Trashy )
    2. Coiling dragon ( Average )
    3. Desolate era ( little bit above average )
    4. Martial god asura ( Actually Trashy)
    5. Martial world ( Average )
    6. Stellar transformation ( Average )
    7. Wu dong qian kun ( Actually Trashy )
    8. Battle through the heavens ( Actually Trashy)
    9. My wife is a beautiful CEO ( Actually trashy)
    10. Every bad plot cultivation bullshit and good plot jap beta bullshit


    Kr novels are in the middle not too awsome not too trashy so they arent mentioned mostly.
    Some of the novels that you might like are

    1. Reincarnator ( Above average )
    2. Dungeon Defence ( Above Average )
    3. Dimensional Soverign. ( Below Average )
    4. King of the battlefield. ( Average )
    5. Everyone else is a returnee. ( Average )
    6. Seoul Station's necromancer. ( Average )
    7. I alone level up. (Kinda ok )
    8.Legendary Moonlight Sculpture. ( kinda ok )
    9. Omniscient Reader's viewpoint. ( Average )


    Lets not even talk about most japanese novels. Sorry but i have already read a lot of japanese novels in the past and i find them unbearable now for various reasons.

    My personal opinion hope no one gets offended.
     
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  3. YWL

    YWL Well-Known Member

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    As a translator, I don't read a lot of novels (mainly how the fuck slow of a reader I am). But heck, I've translated over 8 million characters. (I finished the translation of Stellar Transformation and translated over 3k chapters of MGA, so yeah... sigh)

    What I did read in my time (didn't complete any of them though...)and enjoyed...

    Mushoku Tensei
    Release That Witch
    The Chronicles of Weed The Sculptor
    Mahouka Koukou No Rettousei
    Highschool DxD
    Legend Of The Galactic Heroes
    and... what I'm currently translating as a side project.... I Beg You All, Please Shut Up
     
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    Kingdom building

    Tales of Reincarnated lord ( Second best in Kingdom building) trash
    Amber sword ( Average) didn't read
    Realist hero rebuilt the kingdom ( kinda ok) decent
    Enlightened Empire (RR) ( kinda ok) didn't read
    Rise of lords ( above average ) decent
    The World online ( MMo rpg) ( Trashy) below average
    Lord's Empire (MMo rpg) ( Trashy ) trash
    Road to Kingdom ( Average ) never heard of this one where is it from i want to read it
    World of Warcraft foreign realm domination ( Below Average) i agree here
    I am the monarch ( Average ) trash
    Hail the king ( trashy ) trash
    Sevens ( Kinda ok) trash
    Kingdom's bloodline ( above Average ) garbage
    World domination system Great
    Human emperor average first 1200 chapters are good after that is bad


    Good power trips with little bit kingdom building

    History's number one founder ( Average ) Great
    History's strongest senior brother ( Average ) Good
    Master of Untold daos ( Below Average) Good
    To be power in shadows ( Kinda ok) never heard of this
    Low-dimension game ( best power trip around) Garbage not trash but garbage
    Forgotten conqueror (RR) i will check this one out
    Library of heaven's path ( Ultimate face slapping) ok
    Emperor's domination ( Trashy )correct in my opinion
    Number one under heaven ( Gem ) will check it out
    Invisible dragon ( Best of all time ) Goat


    Absolute best novels mostly not kingdom building

    1. Lord of Mysteries ( There is no competition hands down ) correct there can't be no other opinion at this moment
    2. Martial Arts Master ( Best Romance + Action)way too high should only be in top 20 at least for me
    3. My house of horrors ( Best horror + Thriller) top 10
    4. Overlord ( Best Jap Novel + Excellent world building ) never read
    5. I shall seal the heavens ok + Reverend insanity never read + Renegade immortal trash + WMW great ( Best CN cultivation novels + mature shounen)
    6. Way of the devil + Carefree path of dreams + Mystical journey ( Best adventure + travelling novel + Mature shounen ) haven't read these yet in my list
    7. Release that Witch ( Best kingdom building + Military) 2nd best kingdom building
    8. Throne of Magical Arcana ( Excellent world building + adventure ) good but not for me
    9. Trafford's Trading club ( Best Psychological + OP MC novel - Sadly translation has stopped ) good
    10. Ze Tian ji + World of Cultivation + Zhu xian ( Good plot + Cultivation ) translation problems here
    11. Cultivation chat group + legend of sun knight ( good comedy novels ) have read one haven't read the other

    No particular order here all the given novels are awesome.

    For initial hype and then to trash it later to be cool kid in the block.

    1. Against the gods ( Actually Trashy ) trash garbage needs to be deleted
    2. Coiling dragon ( Average ) ok
    3. Desolate era ( little bit above average ) average
    4. Martial god asura ( Actually Trashy) same as ATG
    5. Martial world ( Average ) average
    6. Stellar transformation ( Average ) average
    7. Wu dong qian kun ( Actually Trashy ) average
    8. Battle through the heavens ( Actually Trashy)average
    9. My wife is a beautiful CEO ( Actually trashy) needs to be deleted
    10. Every bad plot cultivation bullshit and good plot jap beta bullshit corret


    Kr novels are in the middle not too awsome not too trashy so they arent mentioned mostly.
    Some of the novels that you might like are

    1. Reincarnator ( Above average ) average
    2. Dungeon Defence ( Above Average )
    3. Dimensional Soverign. ( Below Average )average
    4. King of the battlefield. ( Average ) below average
    5. Everyone else is a returnee. ( Average )
    6. Seoul Station's necromancer. ( Average )
    7. I alone level up. (Kinda ok )Great
    8.Legendary Moonlight Sculpture. ( kinda ok )
    9. Omniscient Reader's viewpoint. ( Average )never read


    so there is a few things i would add to this
     
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    Daresan Well-Known CN Master

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    Which is your best in kingdom building i would like to read as u can see i kind of like the genre very much. Some of kingdom building novels i forgot are

    1. Mediterranean Hegemon of ancient greece. ( kinda ok)
    2. Sword of daybreaker. ( Above average)

    And my most recommended novel is My house of horrors. I admit second half of the novel isnt as good as the first half but the first half of that novel is what got me into binging hundreds of asian horror movie.
     
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    can't read my house of horrors am a coward and as for kingdom building novels i have two i can recommend you (a time travelers journey to feudal japan) its set in the sengoku jidai aka japans warring states period where for a 100+ years there where a bunch of clans fighting to become shogun or military dictator of japan and the mc is a super genius scientist from our time and he eventually overthrows his overlord clan and fights for dominance himself. And 2 (Road to the crown) set in the polish Lithuanian commonwealth in 15 century Europe the mc has a system though so yeah
     
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    Entry level novels ...Hmmm
    The legendary moonlight sculptor is the best KR VRMMORPG
    Coiling Dragon or I shall seal the heavens for Chinese Fantasy
    Idk about isekai (I dont read the genre).
    My house of horrors , The Lord of Mysteries and Plague Doctor (Horror/Mystery)
    The Legendary Mechanic for Chinese RPG style novel
    A Record of a Mortal’s Journey to Immortality For Classic Chinese fantasy(Xianxia)
    Warlord of the magus world for Anti hero+Fantasy
    (Some of my personal favorites)
    Swallowed star,Custom Made Demon King,Second Life Ranker,Monarch of Evernight,Divine Throne of Primordial Blood ...There are more but currently cant remember them
     
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    TaffyGirl13 just a casual translator~

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    Legend of Sun Knight: for magic/Western fantasy (and no romance+humor)
    Dominion’s End: for post apocalpytic genre (and no romance)
    Legendary Moonlight Sculptor: for VRMMORPG in general
    Either Douluo Dalu or Coiling Dragon: for generic xianxia/xuanhuan.
     
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    Daresan Well-Known CN Master

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    Okay i will try both. Military ruler of all japan haha i play Total war shogun 2 sometimes and its fun. Eu 4 is best though interms of diplomacy and micromanagement total war feels like childs play. Are there historical figures in the novel like oda nobunaga, toyotomi hideyoshi , tokugawa iyeasu, akechi Mitsuhide, Takeda shingen, uesugi kenshin?
     
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    yep
     
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    Hmm.. :blobhyperthink:
    For ancient china transmigration, Princess Wei Yang, Eight Treasures Trousseau and To Be A Virtuous Wife should do the trick.

    For villainess otome, Reika, Eliza, and Erica is a staple that needs to be read. But if you want to torture yourself, My Fiancee is In Love with My Little Sister will give you the pain that you seek.
     
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    Daresan Well-Known CN Master

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    Well i read the first one and it was really above average. About second one is it harem? I dont mind harem but i dont really like mc who cant keep it in their pants and thinks with dick.
     
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    No idea but i don't think it is as i put it on hold around chapter 30
     
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    A timetraveler's guide to feudal japan was very good i was hooked from the very begginning but road to crown didnt feel smooth at all. I dont know i just couldnt get into it even though i read up till 20 chapters. Maybe because of system thingy. I like serious novels and when there is a system, novel just suddenly turns into gag novel and lots of plot armor, makes zero sense most of the time.

    I just cant take system novel seriously thats my weakness as well. WMW is the only novel with system that enjoyed and it probably cant even be called system.
     
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    Tbh i also dropped it but not due to the grammer i will go back whenever it gets better
     
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    If you meant novels to introduce for a new reader, then maybe something like:
    Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear
    Isekai Yururi Kikou
    Isekai Izakaya Nobu
    Ascendance of a Bookworm
     
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    Hazel00 Highland Knight | From Karsuk

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    For fantasy with awesome adventures and exciting fight
    -Lord of the mysteries

    For torturing heart(tragedy)
    -One night, one day, one year, one lifetime

    For cultivation genre
    -I shall seal the heavens

    For comedy
    -Losing money to be a tycoon

    Slice of life
    -The great storyteller
     
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    Is there really such a thing as an entry-level novel to begin with. I mean sure, a new reader is going to struggle with something like "Finnegan's Wake", but this kind of book isn't even common in normal literature, much less the kind of books that are popular here. Most of the books on NU are already super accessible, and maybe only about 5% of these are titles that I wouldn't suggest as starting points. And the vast majority of those are sequels so they don't really count.

    I guess a case can be made that it'd be good for readers to understand the meta references that show up in these books. But generally there isn't a whole lot of interest in these and most readers on NU seem to ignore foundational works to begin with.
     
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