Personally I think grid will keep making new epics the first epic said end in an myth but it can be not literally the last one to be an myth but that once it end it already is an myth ( difference being it can keep going I can give an example) Let's take Arthur as an example we can say his history end as an king, and end it on the sword pulling or when he dies on both cases he end up as an king difference is on the second option he is a. King an while Also remember the epics never stated that they only end in one myth like the Hydra proved before 1 being can be in multiple myths Now talking about cool thing anyone see the possibility of sua finally getting her chance at grid with the burn?
Thanks for the for the chapter references. It's been a really good time since i re-read the history, my memory of it is already becoming a mess. It seems the time for another round has come.
1. The emperor of the Saharan Empire is already being addressed as a transcendent, absolute and god. But he does not rule the entire continent, not the strongest emperor in history (not developing) and not the first player to become an emperor. 2. If you can steal directly from a god or a dragon than it is worse than murder. 3. Baal is unique because he was not created, but he existed in the abyss. Baal can play with everyone - demons, people, angels, gods and dragon. 4. Maybe divinity will grow with the development of religion, but not now. 5. Titles were given for the first Baron, Viscount, and so on.
1-juander's absolute was not the same as the ''absolute'' status of a trascendent , if it was , even the grandmaster wouldn't stand a chance, juander was also never referred to as ''god'' 2-if you can steal from them as in their physical bodies , yes , just from their homes/lairs , not really 3- yes indeed , but baal is inferior to most gods and all dragons when it comes to power , he is immensely powerful , but ot's his wits that allow him to manipulate others 4- every 10 deity=1 lvl of divinity , that's a rule stated in the description , to point out , the inverse isn't true , you CAN gain divinity levels without deity 5-ye that's why i said a first god title will probably be given
The people of the empire see the emperor as a God, Chap 1056: "Galest’s people were thrilled by the emperor’s visit and cheered with tears streaming down their faces. The people’s trust in the Saharan emperor was as absolute as faith. The emperor was embraced as a god, and Juander took it for granted. A god ... This was one of the decisive reasons why the emperors of the past were able to control the continent "
i think you're misunderstanding, the people ''deified'' the emperor kinda(it was very small compared to the actual gods they worshipped) , but that was all , he was no god , nor did the system ever refer to him as a god , so no he was not referred to as a god by the system. the absolute name refers to him being the ruler of the empire and thus the absolute ruler of the continent . not absolute in the sense of absolute transcendence.he was , however, a transcendent.
+1 If in the Overgeared Kingdom, which has existed for no more than 20 years, Grid is already considered a god, then what can we say about an empire with centuries of history. And although the emperor was not a real "absolute", he was for the players - if they tried to kill him, they would be brutally suppressed by various penalties.
yep am not saying he is not considered a god , but he ISN'T a god(status-wise and physically) , there's a huge difference between the 2 , grid achieved godhood not solely by deity but also by multiple achievements (the epics most notably) which led him to becoming a fully-fledged god , juander on the ther other hand , is an NPC , so the path of godhood is much harder than just accumulating belief and being deified by his people , specially if his people believe in asgardian gods too. and yes, indeed, he was in that sense an absolute. Also to be fair , in 20 years grid's achievements surpass anything the empire has ever done in its history.
Yes, I know, and I also think that he was not an absolute because he was weak compared to a God or Dragon, and I even doubt that he is a transcendent, because it is said that he was born as one, and therefore, the past emperors were they also transcendent like him or just Juander born as one? because if everyone is, then why did they die of old age? and it is strange that only Juander is the special, he is not even the strongest of the emperors, Zik even says that he is the most incompetent since the beginning, so the others should also have been born transcendent just like him, or both Juander and the previous emperors were not transcendent nor were born like that, being simply a way of referring to them, but not being truly transcendent, similar to what they were called absolutes. And I didn't say that he was a God, but that he was referred to as one by the people, you said: "Juander was also never referred to as 'god'.", But Juander like all emperors was referred to as "Gods"by the people, so they were referred to as such, it does not mean that they were one, just as Grid was not a God even when people call him God Grid, but that does not change that Juander and the other emperors were referred to as God in the novel, you didn't say "Juander was also never referred to as ''god" by the system. ", That is true, the system never said that he was a God.
About death by age: So Mueller was "The Strongest Legend", but he was not a transcendent? And it turns out that this applies to all the past legends that were not killed. Or their level of transcendence was very low. (3-5. "true origin energy" and "willpower" are opened)
The legends that died by age were probably not transcendent, but in Muller's case it is difficult to believe that he was not a Legend/Transcendent, perhaps he wanted to die and was already satisfied with life, even a Transcendent must be able to die when he want, maybe that's why he was wanting to leave it all behind, including the challenge of facing Mir for the next generation of Sword Saint, because if he didn't let this desire to face Mir go he would be unable to die, similar to how some Dwarves do not die when they are extremely focused, it is possible for a transcendent to overcome death through this strong desire, so Muller had to get rid of all desires. Chap 1321: "Muller had felt his long-desired death approaching and recalled a bloody battle on the East Continent that he had accidentally visited. It was fun — he thought he had been practicing swordsmanship all his life for this moment. Muller felt nostalgic and wanted to once again meet this person and cross the sword. The next day, he left for Kaya and found it was a lingering regret. He realized he couldn’t die unless he gave up these lingering regrets " In the case of the emperors, it is difficult to believe that all of them would be satisfied with life and wanted to die.
I am a bit confused. Did Grid's Epic Swordsman class grow to a myth or has he received the status of a myth? Also, is he being referred to as the Overgeared God or God of Virtue (I saw this on wiki)?
for players , a myth status means a myth class , the same goes for legends , so yes MSOTE did get upgraded to myth. And grid is currently worshipped as many things deoending on the worshipper , the eastern people worship him as the god of virtue , the rebecca church worships him as the god of humans , kyle worships him as the god of war , while his ''official'' name is overgeared god(probably due to his worshippers in his kingdom) , also he probably represents all those aspects at the same time which makes him a god of many things depending on the worshippers' experience with him and thus unique.
No, Epic Swordsman class did NOT get upgraded to Myth class. Grid has a title that calls him the Overgeared god and he requires more believers. The epics have elevated his divinity the class is not myth class yet
Grid isn't referred to as 'Overgeared God' on Overgeared Wiki anywhere. Additionally, the Wiki follows the Rainbow Turtle's Translation on Wuxiaworld, so no spoilers from the Raw Chapters are added there. This is also because of the inconsistent MTL which isn't good for the Wiki, that is unless you want to create a mess on the Wiki. There are only 3 Aliases which are present on the Wiki, those are: Overgeared King, God Grid, and God of Virtue. 'Overgeared King' is from his own designation, when he got the Title of [Hero King] in Chapter 693, and from his 7th Epic and Epics written afterwards the 7th Epic. On a sidenote, becoming the [Hero King] is the first Myth of Grid's existence. Grid is referred to as 'God Grid' by many Users. Grid is referred to as 'God of Virtue' by the Twelve Zodiacs in East Continent. Maybe because his journey as God of Virtue started from Pangea where he became the [Pangea's Duke of Virtue].
We have to wait for the next release, but now it clearly hasn't updated the class to "myth". Just compare when any character becomes a legend - the changes are enormous. From Legend to Myth, there should be even more changes.
Perhaps the "Absolute" in Grid's epics is based from Grid's perspective that these people are significant, relevant and someone status higher than him (for now), which is different from "Abosulte" of the "Kill the God Quest". Therefore, the absolute like juander only applies to epics' narratives.
When a Player becomes a Legend, he acquires Legendary Skills like we saw in Grid's case where he became Pagma's Descendant. Even those who pioneer their own Paths, like Jishuka, also get the Skill Upgrade like Jishuka's Hawk's Eyes upgraded once she became the Bow Saint, the Legendary Archer. The similar things should take place when a Class is upgraded to the Myth Rating. Meaning, the Basic Legendary Skills should be upgraded to Myth-rated Skills or at least some new Mythical Skills should be obtained by the Class Holder. Currently, we know nothing whether Grid's Class has really become a Myth-rated Class or not. If it has become Myth, then we'll get to know some information tomorrow or the Chapters next to it. Juander was the Emperor of Saharan Empire. Saharan Empire pretty much had control over the whole West Continent in the Past. An Emperor who can control such an Empire is also an Absolute in people's mind. It is the perception of people and an Emperor's power which can decimate anyone's life on the Emperor's order. It is more of an Authoritarian Absolute rather than a True Absolute like Hayate. We all know this. The True Absolutes are from the Path of Transcendence, not from the Status of an Emperor. They can kill a Dragon or a God. Meanwhile, an Authoritarian Absolute like the Emperor of Saharan Empire can't do these things. Nevartan and Bunhelier's fight had to break out. Though, it was messed up because of Grid, Kraugel, and the True White Fang. That fight would have destroyed the Saharan Empire alongside the Zikfrector and Mercedes. And I am sure that Juander would have been included in that. On a sidenote, an Authoritarian Absolute can't even handle a True Transcendent like Grandmaster Zikfrector rather than killing a Dragon or God. It is just laughable because people talk about these things even after knowing. For Talima's Shame, Grid is an Absolute as he can control it and mess it up any time. This isn't something new. People should visit and re-read Grid's 2nd Epic and difference between Hayate and an Authoritarian Absolute like Juander. Juander or any other member of Imperial Family is considered a Natural Born Transcendent because they are like Yangbans. Yangbans get their powers from a God because of their Lineage. Meanwhile, the Lineage of Saharan was established like an Absolute Lineage which controlled the Whole West Continent for about 1,000 years. It can be seen when Rose was suppressed from Benoit's Status as an Imperial Prince. It was around when they were summoning the 32nd Great Demon Belial. It is a Transcendent Lineage that can suppress Normal People easily, even from their birth. The Dukes don't mess up with the Imperial Family as they can be suppressed by the Red Energy. But it isn't like thay can't fight against the Imperial Family if they remove the Loyalty from their minds. Being born as a Transcendent doesn't really mean that you are a True Transcendent. Similarly, being Born as a Yangban doesn't really mean that you are a True Half-God. The Recognition System is like this. The Saharan Imperial Family has always been seen as the Transcendent Family. Thus, they are considered as such. It is like Grid created his Identity as the Overgeared King, and he is referred to as such in his Epics or everywhere he goes. In fact, there is a truth that the members of Saharan Imperial Family are Natural Born Transcendents since they have the power to suppress Normal People around them from their birth. But the question remains same? Are they True Transcendents or Emperors of Saharan Empire are Absolutes? You already know the truth. Don't you? Currently, the Saharan Empire may have lost its position as the Absolute Nation on the West Continent. So Basara shouldn't be an Authoritarian Absolute as well. Note: When I talk about Authoritarian Absolute, it also includes the possibility that the Ruler is a Tyrant. In fact, all the Rulers of Saharan Empire had been Tyrants in the past. Whole Duchy/Dukedom is removed if there is even a little suspicion that you are a betrayer on the order of the Emperor. It is all to maintain the Absolute-ness of the Emperor. We saw this happening in Piaro's case. The initial Saharan Empire had 12 Dukedom, now there are only 3. Although, I know that 3 of them died because of Grid, but in Piaro's time, there were 9 Dukes. Other things I leave on your inferences.
Unless , the myth status the system talked about refers only to godhood then it did , as the epic told the tale of a myth this time , not of a legend , i would assume the rating of MSOTE depends on the rating of its epics , so if an epic tells the tale of a myth , aside from the usual epics' reward ( which was the god status this time) it would also get upgraded to myth , sure it's not guaranteed as we couldn't have a clear view of his status window , but that is probably intended by the author to keep the suspense and avoid making a chapter which is solely about rewards , which he will probably reveal gradually like he always does ( blame the fans who started complaining about the existence and frequency of system messages in a VR game). So yes it MAY refer to solely his god status being myth rated , but i believe since the epic was also a myth , the class itself got upgraded as well.