Question Are there actually people who enjoy Harems?

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  1. lavendidi

    lavendidi First of Her Name, Lover of Cliches

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    Just curious, no hate intended .

    Idk about others but I feel uncomfortable with a lot of people frolicking to just one person of the opposite gender. I feel weird reading a lot of guys going for just one girl(otome novels I'm looking at you), how much more those Fantasy-Adventure ones with one guy and a lot of girls (especially those cute faced elfs with unnaturally huge boobs, or cute faced demons with clothes you can't even call them clothes cuz the only thing its covering is the most important parts)

    I can understand if there one or two people there but I feel like three is too much? I don't mind if the harem is just subtle but to the point where the girl just says baka-baka then there's this whole catching her taking something off/0in a towel/in thr bath is so... Idk how to put it lol, just frustrating to read haha

    Take note, this is just my preferences and maybe not for you guys, but are there actually people who enjoy Harems?
     
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    otaku31 Well-Known Member

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    Why not? When I imagine being surrounded by a lot of beauties who would love having a piece of me... *feels breathless...


    from suffocation* :notlikeblob:
     
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    Xiongace101 Monkey

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    there are good harems where every character is developed and actually exists and then theres the bad harem where the girls are essentially copies of each other and have no meaning other than to add to the body count. harems arent bad per se but the writing determines everything mostly
     
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    elengee Daoist Ninefaps

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    There's a market for scat, clown and midget porn, i'm sure there's people that enjoy harem too.
     
  5. Rakshanu

    Rakshanu Immortal Ero

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    Japanese are mostly annoying due to Tsundere trope existence, which means that girl is gonna do nothing her whole life but try to cockblock MC with other girls while being annoying ass bitch.
    JP Hentai ones are normally much more chill with sex with other girls.
    Chinese are easier because tsunderes don't exist or are only limited to their own love/sex, No one will be able to interfere in MC sex with others. So the overall harem is more peaceful and sisterhood sorts ( I mean their will be literally atleast one pair of sisters MC does in harem) + CN ones usually go through dozens of continents/worlds/verses where they end up having a waifu or two per of it (given population), but sole reason it is not that unnatural is because usually MC isnt the only one with harem.
    CN Hentai is just rape the harem
    KR/CN reverse harems mostly go dog shit because of extremely obsessed ML's who end up sexually abusing FL always.
    KR Hentai harems can be either greatly done if casual, but the moment they involve a love relationship, they have more shit in them than a new yorks sewers.
     
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    Raidou99 [The Forgotten]

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    Are u new to the web/light novel readers community... I feel like you are
     
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    Rakshanu Immortal Ero

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    Infact in most Chinese ones, you will want a harem ending, because the good stories there develop the girls so well and tug at heartstrings, you just want them to be happy. Tho I don't mind either way as long as my personal fav wins ( or is atleast somewhat happy at end).
    Because I have read some where the non chosen FL end up extremely depressed and just vanish, which makes it harder if you liked the character.
     
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    Galooza The One True Walapalooza

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    I can, the main reason being romance isn't what I care about most in a story. If you're completely focused on romance and that is the plot, ya, harem's almost guaranteed to suck. But when the plot or what drives the novel isn't romance, then it's easier to take harems for what they are, regardless of good or bad.
     
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    Elite4Harmon Well-Known Member

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    There are.
     
  10. NothingIsEternal

    NothingIsEternal Active Member

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    Only pepole that like Harerm are horny asfuck :blobsmile:
     
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    ToastedRossi Well-Known Member

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    I like reading harem novels. Let me rephrase that: "I like reading good harem novels." Normally the difference between good and bad novels isn't that huge as bad novels will deliver much the same kind of material as good ones. This genre is the exception. Simply put, bad harem novels are going to do a terrible job with characterization, especially when it comes to the members of the harem. One of the things I look for in the books I read is good characterization of female characters. This is a lot less common than you might think so finding it is appreciated. Bad harem novels have this so they're not worth reading.

    Eh, are harem novels that titillating? Many of the ones I've seen are about as sexy as watching wallpaper dry.
     
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    redanxela Well-Known Member

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    Well yes. I mean most guys(don't quote me on that) have at least thought of being with more than one woman (secretly, openly whatever.) At one point in time.

    So enjoying harem in at it self isn't strange.

    But the strange part is enjoying CN harems.

    At a time i once enjoyed harem (in my defense ,I was new to webnovels. Everything was fresh and intriguing) but when it all boils down to collecting women as if they are some cards or something (not even rare kinds, and mostly ends up forgotten) it just spoils the joy of being in an ocean of women.

    I don't if there is any well written CN (I only read CN and a bit of Korean) harem not that i can think of one.
     
  13. NothingIsEternal

    NothingIsEternal Active Member

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    I was sarcastic LUL
     
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    mewth Well-Known Member

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    There are... A lot of. Who didn't like surrounded by beautiful Women &/ cute girls? Those sultans and emperors knows better. Why more than three? To accommodate all girls type for your kin- I mean taste.
     
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    I don't like harem, both good and bad harem, plots. I've read some good and many many many more bad.

    Of the good harem, I like that the MC got together with the two guys that loved her since they both loved her so much and to choose one would essentially mean killing off the other. So it was nice that MC got to be with both. HOWEVER, even then, I feel wrong that it is double standards. MC can be with more than one partner but her partners must have her alone! I mean, I get that the author wrote the partners to be like that (in that the will only ever love MC ever alone), but as a reader I feel that that is just wrong. That is like forcing a unfair situation or brainwashing and manipulating MC's partners to be with only her while she can be with many others. SO that is why I don't like harem, even good ones.

    But more often than not, even in fantasy and adventure and action novels, I HATE HAREM! They just ruin everything! In many of the novels I've read, it usually starts with MC breaking off engagement with fiancée since he is now poor and powerless. But he has a childhood sweetheart or something along that lines. Childhood sweetheart and MC vow to love each other but of course, childhood sweetheart is revealed to be from one of the most powerful family/clan in the world/universe (for chinese cultivation novels). So clan takes childhood sweet heart back home and seperates the two lovebirds. MC vows to train and become strong enough to be equal to childhoodsweet heart.

    Then a lot of train, action, luck, pot amor blah blah ... and of course NEW GIRLS! On MC's journey to be stronger IN ORDER TO BE WITH CHILDHOOD SWEETHEART, MC meets a weak and injured goddess, he helps her and they travel together for a while, somethings led to other things and before you know it, THEY BANG! WOW! Of course the goddess once healed can't be with MC for now so they seperate too. MC still committed to training to be with CHILDHOOD SWEETHEART so the journey continues. Next journey he meets a firey hot-headed beautiful girl. Oh let's give her a position too, let's make her the only daughter of the most power clan in the current country MC is in. MC and her meets each other again and again blah blah blah things happen again (such as they both get into dangerous situation. Save one another blah blah feelings blossom afterwards and ...) THEY BANG! Of course, MC afterwards tells fiery girl that he already has a first wife, but he still loves her too. Fiery girl (only daughter to the most powerful family in the country. and has only ever been spoiled her whole life) willingly and easily accepts this (even if this is set that polygamy is common). Fiery girl says she will give up the first wife position to childhood sweetheart. Blah blah skip to when MC meets childhood sweet heart. They are happy reunited, MC realizes many many many other handsome rich and powerful guys are also interested in childhood sweetheart, but she rejects them all since she loves only MC. Other guys comes to childhoodsweet heart and tries to flirt with her, MC sees and gets angry. Challenges them to death match. MC kills them and sends warning to other that childhood sweetheart is his and his alone. Anyone who tries to flirt with her, DIES! Afterwards childhood sweetheart learns from MC that he is not a virgin. He has relationship with other woman (in some, more than 4+ other woman before childhood sweetheart) she is a bit upset and pinches MC's waist which they both laugh and them kiss and make-up. Childhood sweetheart says she is first wife forever and will treat the other as her sisters. In the end, MC gets together with all his harem and they live happily with him. MC is married to chidhood sweetheart (let's say she is like the reincarnated goddess of this world who created all life or something), goddess of the moon (let's say the author gave her the status of the most cold and beautiful woman in history), fiery girl (only princess of one of the most powerful countries in the world), (other girls with incredibly high status that can look down on anyone and everyone), etc. (amount depends on author choice, but they most be super beautiful and have high status liek goddess of this, princess of that, saintess of this, genius of the century of that ... etc.)

    And there you have it ... the typical cookie cutter harem plot. MC sole reason to start journey, to be with childhood sweetheart forever. Along the way, bang and pick up a couple of chicks. When he meets with childhood sweetheart, he kills all potential suitors. Gets just a light pinch from childhood sweet heart after finding out he has other woman. MC ends up with all his woman happily ever after.

    Sounds sweet and cute but ... that double standard and honestly complete betrayal of childhood sweet heart ... his whole reason to journey, the whole reason for this novel to exist, just went out the window as it turned into Pokemon where MC just GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL!
     
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    Rakshanu Immortal Ero

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    Too much oversimplifictaion done ^

    The reason chinese novels have harem is because of the settings they have in cultivation world.
    The girl chooses to give up her virginity to MC (In many cases knowing she will not be in married status with him/left behind) because of the amount of favor on her by MC, which normally involves saving her from being raped/sold to someone who only wants her body, saving her parents/family from getting killed/house ruined and likes. This stuff is not much possible in RL unless you are a tycoon(at which point u wont really give a shit to lower person life), so the morality seems off.

    But for those people, ML saved them and everything they held dear from a miserable future, So they do it. Childhood friends is normally in the same boat, it is always a situation in which sacrifice is done on a level that great.

    Now which person would not be attracted to someone who is risking their own future and life for theirs? Unless ur a emotionless bitch, no one would.

    And the biggest trope is that none of those are taken or even promised as wives till ML and FL get together, then ML confesses to it and FL knowing its people like her who just cant help it accept them.

    Not ML taking 4 wives to her and saying accept deez bishes.

    and it works because of the level of stories.

    MC starts as lowest level, so a common girl say level 5 is his match at that moment and turns into a thing
    He gets to 20, a new girl at level 20 joins in as his match now and goes till he is at 70s. Then MC alone goes to 100.
    Its like Kings/Emperors in human world, the higher they went in status, more wifes they got to match it. A commoner would have 1, a count could have 2 or mistresses, princes could have multiple, Emperor could have literal harem of 100s legal wifes and concubines.
     
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    Sabruness Cultured Yuri Connoisseur

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    this. like all things, it's not that the genre itself is bad... it's that the genre is flooded by novels where the harems are just written unbelievably badly. because of that, people have the instant perception that 'harem=shitty bad'.
     
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    Yeah, and it only makes sense when we bear in mind that good harem novels are extremely rare. First you have to have a good writer, he needs to have good writing instincts and be good at portraying varied characters, and finally he needs to like writing female characters. In comparison, most of the writers who tackle harem novels are amateurs who barely have an idea what they're doing, so it's no surprise that these books aren't very good.
     
  19. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    meh~

    this cat read harem cuz it funny to see from sidelines~
    character? meh most wn story is shallow, so meh~
    love is drama~ and drama is funny to see from sideline~
     
  20. Fluffums

    Fluffums 【R-18 Researcher】【Seeker of Moe】

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    The point of (writing) a harem is not that the protagonist has multiple wives or girlfriends or whatever. The point is that there are more types of women that readers can enjoy, because people have different preferences and if you have more women you can appeal to more readers. In reality I feel like most men, even if they want a harem, would gravitate toward a certain type of woman, so the harem wouldn't be that diverse.

    I also feel like the vast majority of harems have a true heroine that is obviously the one the main character would choose if he has to from the beginning, or alternately the main character just collects women and then sets them aside to collect more, or both.

    ... The truth is, the story isn't really made better or worse for the harem. If the author's good at writing romance, the harem will be probably be well-written, and if he's bad at writing romance, it would be most likely even more glaringly obvious if he tries to develop the relationship between the protagonist and a single woman. The takeaway is that an author that includes a harem isn't confident that his story will be interesting enough on its own merits without adding fanservice.
     
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