Spoiler Overgeared

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  1. zerol1

    zerol1 Well-Known Member

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    Not possible the saint sword dance job, the creation of sword dances is possible because the swordance is an way of redirecting Divinity into the sword and each swordance is unique because each step combination have an meaning. Swordance= traditional dances that some cultures used to count histories or gods

    Saint job is not based on an job but on an weapon example is povia was an legendary Archer but not the beat/peak of bow using so by going above her you become the bow saint etc
     
  2. Lmaster

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    One thing I would like very much would be if Grid reached a level of mastery in the sword dance where it would not be limited to a fixed form of sword dance but limited to the maximum number that it can perform, it would be something similar to the approach of Braham and Murmud where the magic loses the skill form and becomes the person's will, not being limited by the form and restrictions written in the skill that has a fixed form, but being malleable and being able to change the skill in real time based on the user's will, in the case of Murmud magic it is literally the control of the basic form of the magic without definite form and without attribute, being able to choose the form, utility and attribute being limited only in the amount of mana, time to use the magic and the price to pay for the effect desired, and in the case of Braham it is apparently the same, of the 125 only 9 have the normal form of magic, the other 116 lost their shape and attribute and became his will, it is likely that he can change the functioning of these 116 in real time, choosing the attribute, mixing it with other spells or increasing the power, these changes would change the cooldown, mana cost and even the time to cast, but in return would give more control and possibilities for the spell, it would literally be control over magic.

    In Grid's case, I think the mastery of sword dance for him would be not to be limited to the restricted form of sword dances he currently has, where he has a limit on the sword dances he can create and these sword dances become fixed, Grid can create 10 sword dances at the moment and after creating the 10 he literally loses the ability to change them and is restricted to using the way the 10 were created and has to wait to gain level to unlock the creation of 5 more, but in the end it will still be restricted to only being able to use in the form that was created.

    So now something important comes, the "Sky" sword dance, it allows Grid to use all his sword dances, it was not explained how it is used, but I believe that Grid is obliged to use all sword dances in a short period of time but he can choose the order he will use and each consecutive dance gets stronger, so what I think would be the way to master the sword dance would be to apply this characteristic of the "Sky" sword dance in his own mastery, something like each level of Grid Sword Dance, it would have a number of slots for each combined sword dance, something like: 7 uses of two fused sword dances, 5 of three fused dances, 4 of four fused dances and 3 use of five fused dances.

    After activating the two sword dance slot, he would be forced to use two sword dances in a row in a short time, he could perform any sword dance and the effect would be different depending on the combination of each skill and Grid would have to practice to learn how each of them interacts with each other and the correct time to join them, the cooldown, resource cost and power would be determined based on the skills used and the interaction between them.

    Grid would only have the basic versions of sword dance as a skill and all combined sword dances would be created in real time using a "slot" that would have a different cooldown time for each combination and after the cooldown time ended, it would return to to be a "slot" that could be used again to make any combination, basically an enhanced version of "Sky", I will try to create a version using the skills of the current Grid and making some changes:

    [Grid’s Sword Dance Lv. 2]

    [A sword dance containing the narratives of Overgeared King Grid. The enlightenment gained through the secret technique has made it even more powerful.

    Swordsmanship and magic are united, increasing physical attack power by 60%, magic attack power by 30%, critical hit probability by 70%, and critical hit attack power by 110%. All values will triple when using cooperative skills with a person you have a bond with.

    * This effect is only fully applied when a sword type weapon is equipped.

    * Physical attack power isn’t applied when a staff or orb is equipped.

    * Damage proportional to the willpower stat will be dealt if a weapon isn’t equipped.

    * Can be used without the footwork. However, the power of the sword dance will increase with every step taken. (Each additional stride will increase the damage of the sword dance by 50%, 100%, 200%, and 400%)

    * You have mastery and control over sword dances, all fusion sword dances have been erased and the "Master of Sword Dances" skills have been created.

    * Every time the skill level rises, the "Master of Sword Dances" level will also increase.

    [Master of Sword Dances Lv. 2]

    You have mastery and control over your sword dances, sword dancing is as common and normal for you as breathing.
    All sword dances gained a "Passive" state, when using the sword dance footwork, a lower version of it can be performed without consuming the cooldown and resources but the effect of extra strides is not applied.

    You can combine sword dances in the order you want by consuming a "Slot" corresponding to the number of sword dances that will be combined, the chosen sword dances will have the cooldown time reset and must be performed in any order in a short period of time. The consumption of resources, cooldown and effects depend on the interaction between sword dances and after the cooldown ends, the spent slot will be recovered.

    * Two fusion sword dances: Current number of slots that can be used (7/7).
    The second sword dance and the magic used in it will have 20% more physical and magical damage, the effects will be slightly strengthened.
    Ability Resource Cost: The sum of the resources of the two sword dances and spells used + 20%.
    Skill Cooldown Time: The sum of the cooldown time of the two sword dances and spells used + 20%.

    * Three fusion sword dances: Current number of slots that can be used (5/5).
    The effect of "Two fusion sword dances" is applied to the second sword dance, the third sword dance and the magic used in it will have 40% more physical and magical damage, the effects will be moderately strengthened.
    Skill Resource Cost: The sum of resources from the three sword dances and spells used + 40%.
    Skill Cooldown Time: The sum of the cooldown of the three sword dances and spells used + 40%.

    * Four fusion sword dances: Current number of slots that can be used (4/4).
    The effect of "Two fusion sword dances" is applied to the second sword dance, and the effect of "Three sword dances" is applied to third dance, fourth sword dance and the magic used in it will have 80% more physical and magical damage, the effects will be greatly strengthened.
    Skill Resource Cost: The sum of the resources of the four sword dances and spells used + 50%.
    Skill Cooldown Time: The sum of the cooldown of the four sword dances and spells used + 50%

    * Five fusion sword dances: Current number of slots that can be used (3/3).
    The effect of ... The fifth sword dance and the magic used in it will have 100% more physical and magical damage, the effects will be massively strengthened.
    Skill Resource Cost: The sum of resources from the five sword dances and spells used + 70%.
    Skill Cooldown Time: The sum of the cooldown of the five sword dances and spells used + 70%

    So each basic sword dance skill will have an effect and a description of what it does when used passively, when used individually or in a fusion sword dance.

    Example:

    [Link Lv. 2]

    [A sword dance that exudes the momentum of an absolute, stretching out like the sun.

    Passive: When "Link" footwork is used, the attack speed of basic attacks is tripled by the next 2 seconds.

    Active: When used individually, Inflicts 350% physical attack power to all enemies in sight and attacks the designated target with 1,000% physical attack power a total of 20 times, one of Braham's spells classified as "Cutter" can be used together with "Link", the spell will be cast every 2 hits and will cause 20% of the spell's power to all targets in sight and 60% to the designated target.

    When used in a fusion of sword dances, the next sword dance will perform the effect and cause 30% power to all enemies in sight and 80% power to the designated target and will be performed 7 times in a row. The Braham spell used in the next dance will consume 7 times the mana value and will be cast on each of the seven hits and will perform the effect and cause 20% of the spell's power to all enemies in sight and 60% on the designated target.

    * Every time the designated target defends against an attack or magic, internal damage will be inflicted and they will be weakened.

    * Takes one second to cast.

    * This skill isn't affected by attack speed.

    * Internal wounds can't be inflicted on targets that are resistant to abnormal statuses.

    Skill Sword Energy Cost: 50

    Skill Cooldown Time: 2 minutes.

    Consumption Mana: Mana of the chosen spell or mana of the spell used in the second dance multiplied by 7]

    [Kill Lv. 2]

    [The sword dance of punishment is performed.

    Passive: When "Kill" footwork is used, the next basic attack will cause 400% of your physical attack power.

    Active: When used individually, deals 2,000% of your physical attack power to a single target, one of Braham's spells compatible with "Kill" can be used together with the skill and will have 200% of the original power. Once hit, the target will be given the ‘bleeding’ and ‘despair’ effects and the ‘Disarm’ effect will be temporarily applied. If the target's status is low, there is a normal probability of instantaneous death.

    When used in a fusion of sword dances, deals 2,000% of your physical attack power to a single target, one of Braham's spells compatible with "Kill" can be used together with the skill and will have 200% of the original power, the attack of sword dances and spells used in the next sword dances will be 50% stronger.

    * Braham spells compatible with "Kill" are basic single-target offensive spells.

    * Disarm: The item effect won’t apply for one second. However, this corresponds to the item worn on the area hit by the attack.

    * The bleeding, despair, and instant death effects won’t apply to targets that can resist abnormal statuses.

    Skill Sword Energy Cost: 100

    Skill cooldown time: 10 minutes.

    Consumption Mana: Mana of the chosen spell]

    So if Grid uses [two fusion sword dances], he consumes 1 use of 7, and he uses 2 of the base sword dances, their cooldown is reset and he can use either of them in any order he wants, the second sword dance will have the effect "20% more physical and magical damage, the effects will be slightly strengthened." plus the interaction between the skills themselves, if Grid chooses to use the Link and Kill that I put above, this would be the result:

    [Linked Kill]

    Inflicts 720% physical attack power to all enemies in sight and attacks the designated target with 1,920% physical attack power a total of 7 times, a Magic Missile (Enhanced) will be produced for each hit, the Magic Missile (Enhanced) created for all enemies in sight will cause 96% of the current magic power to them and the Magic Missile (Enhanced) created for the designated target will cause 288% of the current magic power to them. Whenever the enemy defends or is hit by attacks and spells, he will receive the ‘bleeding’, ‘despair’ effects and the ‘Disarm’ effect will be temporarily applied, If the target's status is low, there is a normal probability of instantaneous death.


    * This skill isn't affected by attack speed.

    * Disarm: The item effect won’t apply for two seconds. However, this corresponds to the item worn on the area hit by the attack.

    * The Internal wounds, bleeding, despair, and instant death effects won’t apply to targets that can resist abnormal statuses.

    Skill Sword Energy Cost: 180

    Skill Mana Cost: 3,360 mana.

    Skill Cooldown Time: 870 seconds (14 minutes and 30 seconds)

    Now comes the explanation, "Link" when used in a fusion sword dances does not cause damage, but causes the next sword dance and the magic of the next sword dance to be performed seven times, if it is an attack skill it will cause damage to all enemies in sight but with only 30% of power and 80% on the designated target, the same goes for magic but only with only 20% for enemies in sight and 60% for the designated target.

    So in this case, "Link" will apply 7 times the skill "Kill" which causes 2000% physical damage with 80% of power on the target and 30% on enemies in sight, so 7 hits of 1600% on the target and 600% on enemies in sight, but remember that the effect of the [Two fusion sword dances] makes the second sword dance and the magic used in the second sword dance to be 20% stronger, so it would be 1,920% on the target and 720% on us enemies in sight.

    In the case of magic, the magic chosen was Magic Missile (Enhanced), by the way, it works this way, the moment Grid finishes the sword dance "Link" and starts "Kill" he must cast Magic Missile at the same time, the damage of Magic Missile (Enhanced) is 200% of the current magic power but the "Kill" effect causes the magic that was used together with "Kill" to have twice the power, so the Magic Missile (Enhanced) power is 400% of magical power, a Magic Missile will be produced with each hit and those who will hit the enemies in sight only have 20% of the power and those who will hit the designated target have 60% of the power, thus 7 Magic Missile with 80% of the current magic power to all enemies in sight and 7 Magic Missile of 240% of the current magic power on the designated target, but again because of the effect [Two fusion sword dances] the magic is 20% stronger, thus ending as 96% for enemies in sight and 288% for the designated target.

    The damage of the spell seems very weak when compared to the physical damage, but it is worth remembering that the basic spell chosen is the Magic Missile (Enhanced) of Grid which only causes 200% of the current magic power, among the spells compatible with "Kill", which would be basic single-target offensive spells, there are stronger spells, Braham's Fire Ball spell is considered a basic spell, which Grid would learn if it had 4000 intelligence and didn't have the problem in the circulation of mana, of course Fire Ball does not fit the requirement of spells compatible with "Kill", but the spell "Ice Spear", has all the requirements, a basic spell, offensive and single-target spell, this would be an example of a spell that would cause more damage comparable to "Kill" physical damage, but of course it would consume more mana and have a longer cooldown.

    Now comes the explanation of the cooldown, basically the sum of skills used and spells + 20%, in this case it was 2 minutes (Link), 10 minutes (Kill) and 5 seconds (Magic Missile), which results in 725 seconds plus 20 % in a total of 870 seconds (14 minutes and 30 seconds).

    Resource consumption is the sum of resources + 20%, equal to the form above, 50 Sword Energy (Link) + 100 Sword Energy (Kill) + 20% = 180 Sword Energy. The mana consumed is just the magic used which would be 400 mana Missile (Enhanced), but in this case as "Link" was used and the description of "Link" says that: When used in a fusion of sword dances, the spell cast together with the next sword dance will be cast 7 times but consume 7 times the amount in mana, so the result would be 400 x 7 + 20% = 3,360 mana.


    Phew, too much text, and the fear of something unforeseen happening and having to redo the text... '-'
     
  3. Aristes

    Aristes [Archiver of idea], [Harbinger of the Fall]

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    QQ: Does Lauel still has feeling for Ruby? I can't imagine what Grid will do when he overheard it
     
  4. zerol1

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    Actually the already have mastered the basic form of the sword dances but he can Still do the steps to boost the power of it.

    Now what would be good is for him to begin creating new base dances and finishing dragon , I really wish he had 2 dance fore each god beast
     
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    GridGridGrud 《Dao of Reading:3rd Stage》

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    Based on me ##
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    Grid read the diary infront of Leraj.

    Leraj arrived at Berhen Archipelago because of Baal..
    Marbas invited Leraj but he isnt required to follow Baal.

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    The diary started when Hexetia approached Baal

    and the rest is history
    _€
    Leraj tried 6 times at the 2nd Island ..
    The 2nd island is about the key and treasure chest (iirc)
    Yes ,he have to clear the islands..

    XD
    __
    Leraj was embarrassed because of this fact..

    He requested Grid to return the diary because he would edit it..

    Of course,Grid declined because Madra's trace might be removed..

    __
    Grid stopped reading the diary because it would be rude to the owner(To be fair, I agree that it would be rude)
    Then ,Grid laughed because he rememberes his old days..

    Leraj misunderstood it and he thought that Grid is mocking him.

    Grid replied by saying:

    Why would I mock someone stronger than me?

    Due to that..

    [Affinity to the 10th Great Demon Leraj +1]
    (yes,tsundere type)

    __

    As for the other reward,Grid is still finding stuff..

    he didnt choosed the sword of Zepar
    __€
    Leraj flexed his shield that he got by fighting
    1million against himself..

    Grid just said that it is garbage..

    Leraj coughed because of that...
     
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    summary by jackwoods#9382, posted here with permission
    It is difficult to read Madra's diary because many of its contents are omitted and grid can't understand the language the diary is written in. They had hypothesized that the language was the language of the dead. Sticks has been trying to learn that language with the help of the galgunos orb but so far his research havent bore any fruits. Grid opens Leraje's diary and the first record is about Hexetia visiting hell. Grid starts experiencing the events from Leraje's Pov. Marbas delivers a letter from Baal to Leraje that orders him to invade Behen archipelago. Leraje tries to refuse by because he judges that it won't benifit him as he needs to fight and win againsts strong enemies to grow and there aren't any strong humans. Marbas starts convincing him how humans are strong and how even hell gao was defeated. Leraje argues that Hell gao was defeated cuz he wasn't able to display his full strength as he needs to be soaked in hellfire to show his true might.( Here Marbas comments that Leraje doesn't knows 7MS strength because he wasn't present in the 'previous world'). In the end Leraje agrees to invade BA cuz he doesn't wanna attract Baal attention.

    He is weakened as soon as he descends on Earth but he still thinks that no-one would give him any troubles. It was a miscalculated. The trials set by Pagma can't be solved with brute strength alone. He fails at 2nd island 5 times before he is able to advance to the 3rd island. He starts writing diary because he was depressed. In his diary he wrote all Bs about how other demons cheered him, humans feared and Gods grew Wary of him. The vision ends and grid is brought back to reality. He starts stariny at Leraje. Leraje is embarrassed and starts humming and patting the blue flamed horse to avoid awkwardness. But the horse kicks him with its hindlegs and Leraje goes to a corner and squats down. He tells grid how the diary is original and not edited so if grid gave it back he could give grid a edited version. Grid refuses cuz he believes that Leraje would omit the fight against Madra. In order to avoid further embarassment, Leraje tells him to stop reading and select another treasure.

    Grid starts looking out for another treasure. The greatest treasure there was the blue flamed horse but grid doesn't want it cuz he already has Og corn and he doesn't want to deal it someone who isn't afraid to kick a GD. He passes bloodstone cuz he has greed and he also passes Zepar's sword cuz he has iyaragt's sword with iyaragt's ego in it. Grid realising that he has grown to the point that the treasures of 10th GD meet his eye starts laughing. Leraje mustaking it as him laughing at her starts shouting at him. In order to keep him quite grid uses his silver tongue and starts praising him by saying how he wouldn't laughing at someone stronger than him. Leraje is faltered by his heart felt (his imagination) comment. Grids affinity with her increases by 1. Grid is shocked that the he can raise affinity with a GD ands asks her if she is really a devil. She then recommends him a shield but grid outright calls it a garbage. Leraje is embarrassed and starts thinking that grid is the real devil here.
     
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  8. Feanor

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    Almost no new information. I do not feel that soon we will learn anything new about Hurent and other players with "growth type" classes.
     
  9. zerol1

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    Wait the 10th demon is male or female I am confused about that?

    Btw it is just me or it feels that after this thing will go crazy maybe we will see the world competition again after so long?
     
  10. GridGridGrud

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    Go to chapter 1057, Madra said that Leraje is a 'guy'
     
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    Could also be a gender neutral addressing in korean and was translated as 'this guy' in english.
     
  12. LordDanny

    LordDanny 《Duke of Chaos》

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    Like Archangels, all Great Demons have no Gender. Meaning, they are Gender: Neutral.

    However, despite this fact, Berith, Baal, and Belial—are maybe referred to as Masculine. Shizo Beriache and Amoract are referred to as Feminine. Well, this may be due to some traits or factors involved. I don't know about what Leraje is actually being referred to as currently, whether Feminine or Masculine. Either way, the sterility is there, and they can't reproduce Sexually.
     
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    Can someone help me understand when/how did Grid used/get skill enhancement. I believe he got 2 goddess’s blessings from cross roads of ‘good and evil’ and another one from ‘cleanse 1st holy sword’. He used one of each for Pagma’s sword dance and blacksmith craftsmanship skill. So he already used both at that point.
    So where did he get the skill enhancement to use on ‘Divinity’?
     
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    When he fought his clone two times he got 2 'Skill Level Points' which increases the skill level by 100%. Don't know why they said skill enhancement scroll there, could be that the author mixed them up.
     
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    By the way, Grid hasn't replaced the insane dragon anvil yet. He had said "First, it was necessary to improve the insane dragon hammer and anvil. He had to make it easier to choose his desired properties." in c.1101. I'm also curious about how the insane dragon anvil interacted with Greed. Grid used it to make a greed item for Teruchan. Did it destroy part of Empress Marie's soul? Probably not because her soul was fully collected thanks to Talsha. What about making a weapon with insane dragon stone and bead. Would it be able to nullify the unique characteristics of items used by Grid's enemies? Also, insane dragon bead has the ability to multiply a mineral's characteristics. This can achieve great results if Grid combines it with moonlight iron or the new mineral he intends to create.

    Hurent and Aura are still irrelevant to the story. The author has use for fighting energy, nature energy, sword energy, mana and willpower but not aura. Even when magic appears useless, Gods, dragons and great demons can use it in a multitude of ways. By contrast, aura is completely forgotten. It was even defined as infinite which was reserved only for skills of beings like dragons and Hayate. Next to nothing would change in the last 1,000 chapters if the author would decide to completely remove the aura from the novel's power system.
    "Unlike her mother who was a great demon, it wouldn’t be hard for Marie Rose on her own since she had been given a ‘gender’". I think this statement from c.1103 implies that great demons have not been assigned a gender at birth which I believe explains why they are referred to as genderless. We don't have justification to believe that they are required to be genderless. For example, if Rose becomes a great demon she'll probably remain female.
     
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    Even the translator often changes the content, so this is understandable for the author. Recently we saw how the phrase about Madra was cut out. Now I read about the Belial raid and after the "Space Sword" the gods of the earth are already restoring world, not Garion.
    I think so too, and it will only remain as an Aura Master class skill. According to the condition, the resource "aura" can enhance attacks and skills, so why such a useful resource is not used ?!

    As for Hurent, I think that he must become transcendent, then the "True Origin Energy" and "Formless Will" will open to him, which will be merged into the "aura", thereby expanding its functionality and power. I do not see any other options, after he has been sitting in the fields for more than 4 years. After all, the "Legend" must perform feats, and the "Transcendent" must train.
    Both types of energy / ability are similar to "aura" and therefore must merge:
    1. True Origin Energy - enhances characteristics and skills.
    2. Formless Will - allows you to distort reality with your thought.
    As a result, the new "Aura" will enhance all types of parameters - stat, skill and others. And also its limitation on the range and place of summon will disappear.
     
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    MK bk-201 [God of Novels]

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    i been wondering for a while now does Protagonist of the Extremely Honorable Painting restore the origin true energy consumed?
     
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    Divinity - The casting time and cooldown time of all skills will be removed. It can be used up to two times whenever the skill is activated.
    While this is a useful skill for Grid to launch multiple powerful attacks at once, the effect partially replicates God's Command.
    But for casters, this is just a cheating ability. Imagine magic that takes 5 or 10 minutes to be used instantly. But I'm wondering if Divinity is compatible with Jessica's ability to charge a shot. If so then Jessica could kill anyone with 1-3 shots.
    I think there must be a special legendary skill that allows it to be used and restored.
     
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    From which Discord?
     
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    I don't know if I can post the Discord link here, so go to the overgeared fandom and you can find it there.
     
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