Spoiler Overgeared

Discussion in 'Spoilers' started by Midnight Rain, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. Aristes

    Aristes [Archiver of idea], [Harbinger of the Fall]

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    Honestly I still want a possibility for a war between East and West continent due to somehow the Yangbans were able to cross over the red sea.

    And maybe when they visit Overgeared kingdom and found Irene, the Yangbans eventually were enraged being tricked by a human and the rest of Overgeared kingdom and its guild members was helpless but to watch as one of the Yangbans that were humiliated by Grid during Chiyou's test lunge ahead for a kill.

    This is a possibility that brought thrill and fear at the same time, something that this story have long lost and was replaced by some old corny kind of comedy I say.
     
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  2. Great Demon Of Spoilers

    Great Demon Of Spoilers Active Member

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    Just go to discord and ask people on novel-spoilers on how to find it, and sorry I'm really busy right now.

    Also the chap was lit thanks to puck for doing a live summary
     
  3. blaisemNU

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    I don't understand where the complaints about Grid being OP or not enough drama/tragedy are coming from after 1400 chapters. The story has always been like this.

    Grid has always been OP, ever since the transparent setup of a few introductory chapters to make Grid's struggle appear authentic before he found Pagma's book. Since then, he's never suffered real setbacks, because every setback turned out to benefit him greatly later on, and there have never been any tragedies except for Khan, one single moment out of 1400 chapters. Even then, Khan died as a legendary blacksmith, the highest honor, a gift to soften the blow, and the setback to Grid was -- you guessed it -- merely a disguised plot device to make Grid stronger, to justify providing Grid with the most broken OP chest armor ever.

    All of the relationships are forced and taken for granted. Grid magically runs into all the best players/NPCs and wins them over. He ignores all of his romantic interests, working 16 hours a day and never doing anything special or romatic for them, but they remain devoted to him anyways to force the harem theme. Grid exceeded other players several hundred chapters ago, and it's been the NPC game since then. Grid will eventually overcome Braham and Sariel and leave them behind too, just like he did the Meritorious Retainers and later Kraugel/Chris/other top rankers. By then he will have new milestones like Nefertina and Marie Rose to compete against.

    The story is just an Eastern power fantasy, where they unashamedly give everything to the MC without sharing anything for any other character and side characters are simply stepping stones, with the weakest being discarded whenever the character cast needs to make room for stronger stepping stones. These stories occasionally pretend to be more by dangling something resembling character/plot complexity every couple hundred chapters, but 99% of the time it's not that. This is how OG has always been.

    OG isn't supposed to offer depth or elegance. It's just power fantasy, and OG mixes up the traditional power fantasy take by splashing some humor in and backdropping it with some decent worldbuilding that's begun to run dry as we've discovered most of the world. The style of writing has been overall fairly consistent with its genre.
     
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  4. Aristes

    Aristes [Archiver of idea], [Harbinger of the Fall]

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    Well, that's the thing. After chapter 1400, there aren't many things left to discuss aside from weapon forging and funny stuffs that now felt like getting old, close to a corny jokes.
    When we read a story, there's a need to at least draw the emotion and interest of the readers emotions and logic.
    When arounf hapter 150 to 200, Sehee had the thought of shipping her brother with Kraugel
    Then far beyond that, was when Khan's death made us feel at loss of losing a character that have long stood by Grid's side.
    When Marie Rose appears at Lord's ceremony, that was the last thing that drew my needs for romance drama
    Overall about currenct chapters was quite chaotic since there have yet to be a worthy villain/ adversary but the gods (who speaking of which sat by and do nothing)
     
  5. blaisemNU

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    My point is why complain now? Why not 1000 chapters ago when this was already apparent? Or 500 chapters ago? Even a year ago...

    Just seems strange to me for a reader to dive in deeper than most book series yet only now start complaining about its shortcomings. If we're this far in then it would make sense to have accepted its shortcomings by now, or otherwise to have stopped reading a few years / 800 chapters ago.
     
  6. Aristes

    Aristes [Archiver of idea], [Harbinger of the Fall]

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    Time changes, so does people. Kids became adults, just as something fun degraded to a joke once you take deeper insight of it.
     
  7. Aristes

    Aristes [Archiver of idea], [Harbinger of the Fall]

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    That's kind 'a cold, sorry. But I guess it was just me who wants more of the thrill, and now that the thrill was no more, like where's the adversary worthy to challange a god? I'll say the devil might want to. Now, where's he? The villain worthy to oppose Grid aside Baal?
     
  8. JHI

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    I was defending this a year ago as well. I wasn't this way before Grid became a shounen protagonist and talked in a dumb way against Sabaek. When the OG Kingdom was in war with the empire, there was still a sense of imminent danger and urgency. Bairan got raided out of nowhere because all of the precautions Lauel took was insufficient against the power of Rigal's airforce. The fight against drasion also kept people on their toes even if a death was unlikely.

    The main problem now is Grid isn't suffering any damage or even facing a threat when he should be. Chiyou agreed with 5 Seniors that if Mir ever defeats Grid then they'll seal RP. Grid got his ass handed to him even while fighting alongside Kraugel and 5 Seniors haven't sealed RP for some reason. For the longest time, Grid did his best to avoid becoming enemies with absolute forces as much as he could. He had to suck it up even when Mercedes demanded he kneel in front of the empire. He now became enemies with all of the god factions aside from 4 guardian gods. He is protecting the most problematic malignant saint and is possibly allying himself with a dragon, archangel and Marie Rose. Regarding the Eastern Gods, Hayate said: “The gods who now rule the East are the ones who were defeated in the war of the gods. They were wounded and lost their authority. Their influence is very small compared to the impression that people usually have about omnipotent gods. That’s why you’re still safe.” But this doesn't apply to the western gods and he's still safe? This breaks immersion and I can't suspend my disbelief given its incredulity. Both Hayate and Chreshler warned Grid on not angering beings who can pummel him without a second thought. Grid supposedly learned his lesson but, in practice, he's still an uneducated dolt.

    I still enjoy the story and the world immensely and that's why I'm reading it. The reason people write in these forums is to bitch about negative stuff, share the enjoyment from hype scenes as well as analyze and predict chapters. So this isn't new argument isn't worth taking seriously.
     
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    This story wasn't originally like this, early on, there was potential for it to be extremely open ended and to have all competitors have an equal chance of growth
    And any skills obtained would've been fair and balanced had any other obtained them and could've branched their original growth path
    The author fucked up by trying to do too much early on, and then never going back to it, like the pheonix raid
    The reason grid fought hell gao and met peak sword was to make a shield for that raid, yet the pheonix was never mentioned again
    We have that water clan that grid is allied with, yet we never got to explore it

    He kept on giving Grid so much power so quickly that all that stuff got left behind
    Since they claim that leveling up was hell, he should've made it a lot more difficult for the character to grow in level

    When It came to the awakening for each 100 levels passed, he should've went more in depth, cheated more characters, more side stories

    Like the time Grid uses Randy to train his control of the sword dances was awsome. That only time that ever happened

    Dude should've planned it out better

    The author is amazing because his idea of the game system was the best to date, but he never spent a lot of time on it. We read these novels because it feels like we are playing too, but now the novels doesn't fell like you're part of the game, now you're just following Grid

    We don't even see the misunderstandings happen all that often
     
  10. Yggdrassil

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    There's a lot of enemies that can turn the overgeared kingdom Upside down but it's not quite the time yet. Grid is a pillar of the balance right now so he looks o.p for others, but that's not really the case. He lacks stats that's needed to unlock skills even acquired ones, lacks skills and mastery's from first to third class,not even fully enjoying the Transcedent system which is naturally gonna open for those who reach the 400's and most importantly his paving his own path in which is harder than the rest for now.
    Grid is just pinnacle of skill accumulations but doesn't have the means to upgrade it to pass over it's pinnacle height since his primary job is a blacksmith secondary is a swordman and optional magician then upgraded to the third class and that's still an optional First Class(on/off class switch pun of the author) . Pure damage classes like yura, euphemina,Regas,Chris and kraugel can demolish grid if you put them in the Transcedent area with the same conditions like grid because of the class foundation gap between Combat classes and production class( example: Madra's 300,000 stealth swordsmanship (degraded) it's damage percentage is like the old 100,000 army but look at the critical rate;it's much higher than some of the single sword dances and it is a spammable basic skill(according the early chapters leak and to oasis journey to 100k swordsmanship). Braham,Hayate and Chiyou helped grid to patch up the gaps of it but the value of it is for the long run.
    For Irene to be die it's impossible for now or it's really impossible because of elite escorts surrounding her and lord. Overgeared shadows, Overgeared Knights(empire former knights and old og knights), heck even direct descendant vampires can possibly be there, The teleportation device can send Irene and lord to the empire for protection and last plan is the bunker made by Ke ong.As for raids Piaro's Rafflesia's and evil eyes can have the area dominance. the Top priority if the kingdom is raided is to secure Grid's family,Rabbit, the sorcerer's clan/ princess and the Blacksmiths.
     
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    As long as Eastern and Western god set a side their're grudge.
    Rebecca can't command her faction completely while her faction're gone completely nut (it's look like Rebecca start to reject her role but She can't resist it).
    Eastern faction is more human That's why most Yangban're arrogant but Hanul is quiet fair, so it's Hard for them to join hand without the conditions.
     
  12. Aristes

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    No new summary? Anyone?
     
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    dis cord
     
  14. Aristes

    Aristes [Archiver of idea], [Harbinger of the Fall]

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    As in where is it again?
     
  15. oic

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    my prediction, china will try get their players to become vampires, not realizing who is the blood king :p
    Only to end up being subordinates to Grid again
    The author likes trolling China.

    also Katz maybe able to form contract with Grid so Grid could get vampire racial trait as well
     
  16. Aristes

    Aristes [Archiver of idea], [Harbinger of the Fall]

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    :hmm::hmm: Honestly that's a great thought, I mean we're waiting to know more about blood sword, maybe making contract with Marie Rose will do... but poor Braham since that means Marie Rose might earned far greater power since Grid is now a god though...
     
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    + 20% to all speed or + 20% to agility. What's better?
     
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    Grid should also contract with the dragon. I don't think he will contract with Marie Rose when Braham is more trustworthy
     
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    Does Grid still have that Light elemental or no?
     
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    Calling it now: Author became a social recluse after writing Overgeared for so long so they're using their novel to cope with the fact that they have no social life. This explains the recent inorganic dialogues, thought processes and unrealistic harem.
    JP webnovel flashbacks