If I was reincarnated/ transmigrated into another world with magic or cultivation and I became more powerful than my “family” and they treated me horribly I’d kill them with no hesitation would you do the same yes or no and please explain the reasons why
I don't feel strong anger towards people but I would leave them completely. The opposite of love isn't hate, but indifference and I'm a master of the art of indifference.
You think that’s a good idea but it always turns out to be stupid the family use your prestige so bully other people and get things using your name without you knowing when you do that you have to publicly destroy all ties with them and make it clear you won’t side with them ever regardless of what happens in the future Let’s see the most come things they do is use you as a tool to make the favourite kids life easier causing you to suffer bully your siblings and you or your widowed mother beat them repeatedly for years when you or your siblings/parents get sick not even bothering to give you medicine causing you to nearly die stealing your possessions or items your dead parents left for you poisoning you so their favourite child inherits the family title instead of you try to have you raped by a noble or prince for political marriage
Honestly, if I was reincarnated into a magical or cultivation world, I wouldn’t want a family. Usually the family is just a burden or are indifferent. Plus it would leave me nothing to be attached to. I’d want be one of those people who have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Especially in magic/cultivation worlds since if we’re going by novel standards, there’s constant killing, backstabbing, and other dumb things happening. That just isn’t really my cup of tea, familial interaction would be a major distraction in my path of working on cultivation/magic. So yeah, pretty cold hearted, but it’s rational!
I’d rather be raised by dragons or some other mythical beast they make such good parents in novels they don’t behave like humans with scheming for power and wealth beasts have a simple hierarchy among themselves already so you don’t have to worry about that and they always have interesting treasures and knowledge
that’d be somewhat unrealistic since getting reincarnated doesn’t mean instant plot armor. If we’re being completely honest here, mythical beasts and dragons will probably be too prideful to raise a mere human and impart their knowledge to one of a lower species. Unless you’re really powerful, then they’d probably stomp on you and eat you for breakfast. In these types of worlds you can only trust yourself, I mean you never know if your lover will kill you for a treasure, or if your best friend will sleep with your lover, or if your family sells you as a slave, or if your pet turns and runs the moment you’re in danger, or if your most loyal servant murders you. You really never know!
I would never kill anyone. I would just be your average villager A. If my family mistreated me, I'd at most cut ties with them.
I don't think i would kill my family. What i would do is probably go to their rival family and cause them to be suppressed and lose their power. If my family isn't a powerful family, then i would probably go out and be successful, and then i would show off to them and make them regret.
I don't see anyone here taking into consideration things like Stockholm Syndrome, emotional dependency, or anything like that. Nor do I see any information about the worlds, the culture, the environments, or anything of the like. And that's ignoring the fact that it's unlikely that you would be born with the memories if your past life, and would require some sort of magical effect in order to gain them, at which point you would be a completely different person to who you are now. Basically, I feel like there is no way to know how you would actually react to a situation like the one you are proposing, but find the possibility of an alternate me actually killing the people who were around and raised me for 10 to 15 years to be unlikely. Even if I was literally their heavily abused slave until I escaped and became more powerful than they could protect themselves from. Because I would get used to it, and the brain is f****d up that way.
This is quote from a novel I’m reading currently mc saved family from a zombie attack and left to go to a place that’s more suitable to survive in and her aunt the bitch is fussing over food and throws it on the floor if I was mc I’d be soo pissed I’d kill her wasting food during a zombie apocalypse “You want me to eat this???” A voice an octave higher than normal was heard from inside the carriage. The anger that Miss High and Mighty, Qiao Wenjuan, had repressed the entire journey erupted for good at this moment! Slap! She stretched out and knocked the mantou out of Elderly Lady Qiao’s hand and also splattered the water from the water sack onto the old woman’s hands. “Mother! How could I eat such coarse and lowly food? I might get a stomachache after eating it!” Qiao Wenjuan completely disregarded the stab of pain in her mother’s heart and ignored her mother’s longing stare at the white mantou that rolled onto the ground. “It won’t, it won’t! This is kneaded and made by Shaoyao last night. It’s very clean and won’t cause an upset stomach!”
Well... Sorry for not being a bloodthirsty murderer, I guess? And well, I'd probably just be a burden in a zombie apocalypse, I wouldn't be able to fight for my life or anything anyways, so I don't think I'd have any form of moral high ground in this scenario.
Nice sociopathy. Ignoring the moral or emotional aspect involved with killing the people who raised me, no matter horrible they were, just the practical aspect that people would recognize me as someone willing to kill my own family if I did so would make me at least hesitate. You can't just take it back after doing it so put some thought into it before going through with it, because it could ruin the rest of your life... In a cultivation world, that's potentially millions of years.
I think we're assuming you keep memories when rebirthed (or at some point in chiildhood at least), because that's the case in most of these stories. And I think OP is specifically talkinig about Chinese stories where OP is treated like trash by the family, but still helps them out when they're getting screwed over by another family, even though he's powerful enough at that point to do whatever he wants. Besides, most of these stories don't take those elements into consideration either, so why should we when we're referencing them ? ;p Also @Fluffums (I don't know how to use multiquote and not really interested in spending the effort), it's weirder that the traditional family structure even still exists in xianxias where there are actual immortals. We short lived creatures really underestimate the passage of time. Would the ancestor of the family still care if every time he's out of seclusion, he knows maybe only one or two of his clansmen who were children when he last saw them but now are clan leaders? Hell, look what happened as soon as divorce was legalized in the real world : divorces rates were so crazy that people made tv shows for years trying to assure the public that you could still have a functionally family with a single parent. Or even look now, that covid's being vaccined away and people are freed from the confines of their homes. Divorces left and right from people who realized they can't stand spending that much time with each other. I'm not even sure the people closest to immortaliity would fight each other to the death for resources : I'm sure they'd need to rely on each other for social and emotional support because they can't afford to be emotionally attached to short lived beings (even if they're "family). Anyways, I kinda get why OP made this thread I think because I feel the frustration from those scenarios as well. NGL, if I were to write one of those trashy stories, I'd totally have the MC leave after dropping a heapton of trouble on the family.
Sure, but if you're using Chinese Stories as a basis, then you need to account for Chinese Culture. Specifically, in this case, the part of Chinese Culture that idolises family, bloodlines and inheritance. Look at the Romance Of Three Kingdoms, Liu Bei was presented as the "hero" of the story for two reasons, he was, supposedly, related to the Emperor before the war of the three kingdoms, and his family won the War Of The Three Kingdoms. While the second one was probably the reason why he was made out to be a caring and sympathetic character in the way he was, the first is the reason presented in the story as to why he deserved to be the victor. To bring up things like the realistic implications of immortality on social relations and willingness to die basically says that some of the most easily recognisable aspects of Chinese Culture in these stories should be discarded. Basically, don't think of it being a world where you're treated like trash by your family and are such a b***h to them that you still return to help them when they're in trouble. Think of a world where you were abused by people who, if you knowingly don't help them in their moment of trouble, everyone is going to treat you like filth. Possibly to the point where your previously loving girlfriends may try to assassinate you, if they feel like they can't just leave, even if they know of EVERYTHING that family did to you. Basically, if a MC abandons their family, even if said family has shown that they deserve to be completely abandoned, and it comes to the reader's attention, then some Chinese reader's would abandon the story out of disgust at the MC, and possibly the author. Oh, and, you multiquote simply by posting the +Quote button while your writing indicator is where you want the new quote to be.
it being Chinese culture is kinda my point though : Immortality and longevity would 100% have an effect on the culture because of how it would screw with people's attachments to "family". Esp since in a lot of these stories, "old" cultivators esp might have to "hibernate" to preserve their life energy, and cultivators in general can end up cultivating in isolation for years, easily. You cannot simply put ancient Chinese culture into an immortality world without the consequences affecting the culture. We just ignore it for convenience sake.
There's a few reasons why it's ignored, and convenience is only one of them. The other major one is propaganda. Remember, most of these stories are written in China, and are published on sites either owned by the Chinese government, or effectively owned by the Chinese government (I haven't looked closely enough into it to make an outright statement on the owners). Basically, the Chinese government can easily do things like outright cancel stories for not fitting the mould the want, like it actually did with Reverend Insanity. Trying to write a story that gives a realistic depiction into how a world where only a few people become immortal, more gain extended notably lifespans, and the changes that result from the implications of that is something that is not in the interests of the Chinese government. Particularly when it causes the story to significantly veer off from the standard world design that they've approved of. There's a path that they've approved, and they want their writers to stay on it. They'll allow the writers to test the boundaries and stray a little, but the writers do have to keep to the approved path that have been set.