Spoiler Kill the Villainess - Helena

What I wanna know is what could force her to dress up and happily walk hand in hand with cp into the party of his fiancé’s coming of age..... if that’s not a real bitchy act with intent then what is it...

 

Idk dude mot like the spoilers answered this question or anything. The world may never know

 

I feel bad for Helena, but I don't get why she only panicked when she saw Eris' dress. Clearly the dress isn't the main problem, the main problem is that the crown prince showed up with another woman at his engagement ceremony. And Helena knew that the crown prince wasn't her escort, she had dragon knight guy. I mean, she probably couldn't refuse the crown prince when he showed up at her door but realization hit her pretty late!

 

i love helena i really love her and i am enjoying to read all thoose hate comments lol. I think a lot of them didnt even bother to read the spoilers. They just saw Helena in manhwa and assumed things and baam comment section is filled 'idk but i still hate her' like what?

You hate her because she is like trashta? Like my profil foto says i never seen such a bullshit before. So you are just an asshole who differences people by their look. Because she resembles Rashta you hate her. Oh god, i now understand why woman and child abuse is never ends. This mindset is dangerous and toxic af. As a woman i am ashamed to read all this comments.

Like u all say why she didnt stop cp or other when they abused Eris? If u ever get isekai in a historical setting manhwa as a commoner i suggest you to never speak back to a noble. Because if u do that you will be killed, prisoned or tortured. This is the harsh reality. Helena cant reject crown prince. She must Love him. She must obey him. He is always right. These are the rules she has to obey if she wants to survive. And even if she doesnt want to live there is nothing she can do. Because they will bring her back from death anyways.

and i love this thread. It proves that this mindset whic is 'Mc is always right and everyone who goes aganist mc is wrong and evil and shall suffer' is slowly chancing.

 

The dislike/annoyance at Helena as a character is kind off understandable, but really, if she was the MC instead of Eris, so many readers would be licking her toes. She's in the absolute cliche situation of "FL at the mercy of MLs" scenario, except hers is 2× as bad cause all the MLs are batshit insane. Lots of Helena haters seem to conveneniently forget that. Like not even an exaggeration, they consist of a rapist, a religious fanatic obsessed with his dead mom, masochist with control issues and all three are delusional to the point of insanity.

Jason, Hubris and The Prince who shall not be named only recently directed their obsessions to OG Eris cause up until then, for what is implied years, They directed that at Helena. Now imagine instead of being someone like Eris who has the reassurance of being someone not even in this world, with the (somewhat) protection of the marquis and the guaranteed devotion of your guard and maid, you're a Child!Helena. Helena, whom was canonically raised to endure all sorts of behavior for the sake of being as amicable as possible. Not only is that behavior something learned as a defense by sufferers of abuse in real life, it's something she was actively encouraged to do. For those who are saying "oh why can't can't she just toughen up and defend herself/Eris" she literally can't. She's been conditioned not to. As many abuse victims are. And since this is a fantasy historical, she's barely aware of it, much less gonna try and fix it. It's not that black and white.

 

Helena is the only likable major character in this novel...(as far as I read)
Normally, in novels I don't like this kind of saintly MC who defend their abusers and try to befriend them, but to actually paint her as being terrible for hurting the feelings of her bully by simply existing is ridiculous. She as an abused, terrified commoner should stand up for her bully who is an aristrocat against the crown prince - I don't find this convincing in the least.
It is ridiculous that the most saintly character in the series gets villainized in this novel for hurting the feelings of the villainess who torments her for basically existing. Helena did not even try to make the prince fall in love with her.

 

The story didn't make her an antagonist, it's quite clear she is also a victim

 

That's great. I stopped reading rather early on and based my opinion mostly on what I read, spoilers and the vitriolic reaction of readers towards Helena. Imo Original Eris is portrayed as sympathetic and I find it problematic that Helena of all people feels sympathy and (guilt?) towards her tormentor.

 

Well monarchy is cruel isn't it? Especially when ruler is very power hungry and selfish.
For me crown prince and emperor is most hated character. They're basically top of food chain, so normally have high responsibility and there every action can influence someone's whole life. These two fuckers doesn't give a shit about their responsibilities at all. Especially that cp deliberately threw his anger for King on Eris. For him Eric is a toy to vent anger and Helena a doll to play with (this shithead doesn't take women as human) The unbalanced power dynamic between males & females to nobles & commoners, lead to these both womens ( Helena &ori. Eris) with bad ending and dislike for each other

 

Inherited rule is the worst form of govemtnet there ever was.

 

I'm actually glad that what it seems from the spoilers, Helena isn't as villainized as alot of other FCs are in other similar webtoons. I back read both threads and apparently alot of people hate her cause she reminds them of Ashtra, which, really? The hate for Ashtra is just as misogynistic and classist as Helena, her being a brat instead of a sweetheart doesn't change that, The only difference is that the author of that book encourages it.

 

Truly!! I couldn't understand why people hate her. In that novel if emperor truly love her, he should try to earn her trust, try to understand her insecurities, did he ever think what she experienced before? After all would she ever believe in feelings?
He did nothing what might a person in love would do and this dumass still has guts to say " I know she would become like this but didn't know it would be so soon" and this person claim to love rashta...... like seriously?!
I feel so disgusting when he's claim to love rashta and still want to touch navier.
For him rashta is just a spare entertainer. He can enjoy As long as she doesn't threatens his interest and if he's dissatisfied she can be disposed at his will (like what happened)
So it's quite stupid to hate rashta when she doesn't have any real power and over all emperor at the back is a decision maker

 

I hate trashta because she tries to smuggle up to MC and has weird expectations of being treated nicely by MC. But on the other side, I agree that she has no control whatsoever about what happens, even after the emperor "saves" her her life spirals further and further into doom and she really has shitty luck. Plus she's kinda dumb and has lived a fucked up life so I see no way for her to be a functionnal human being, so I'm annoyed by her but I also pity her.
I feel like the emperor hate isn't strong enough. That dude is in control of his life, strong and smart, has it all and choose to screw up. He's so damn entitled. He goes and takes a concubine out of nowhere, makes MC responsible for taking care of her and let's the concubne stay near MC and then expects MC to still act romantic with him and sleep with him. It annoys me so much that the consequences for his BS are so few. Trashta will have a bad ending, it's pretty clear, but he seems to take no big damage, except to his ego.

 

I agree...it's just annoying to see different treatment to characters of same behaviour.
Most annoying thing is that MC's dislike for shovieshit is not as clear as her dislike for rashta. She even have some feelings for that disgusting person.
I just feel that most of rashta's actions are approved by emperor in one or another way so hating on her instead of real perpetrator is kinda meaningless. At most she's just annoying character with low IQ
Mostly I couldn't hate because there's a law mentioned in novel that criminals would be punished to become slaves and their (innocent) childrens has to become salve too. So rashta's whole abuse as slave's daughter was because of shovieshit and this dumbass still didn't think to change this law when he have direct contact with victim.
It's quite clear that reader's hate on shovieshit is less than on rashta(whose just a tool), when it should be opposite.

 

The most hateful thing he did was take her in. He and MC where in love and life was smooth. He finds a runaway and pities her. And then, instead of sending her to some nice place and send her a nurse or whatever, he takes her with him (??) And then takes a fancy to her and falls in love with her ??? And his only reason is that MC is used to his gifts (because he doesn't have an ounce of creativity) and that slave smiles brightly when given cake... I repeat, she smiles brightly at little things and "the empress is so cold *bitter smile* she is the perfect empress" . . . HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONFLICT WITH MC, HE LOVES THE NEW AND DISDAINS THE OLD AND THEN HE ACTS ALL DEFENSIVE AROUND MC BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE MESSED UP BUT INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS RIGHT, HE DECIDES TO SCOLD HER WHEN HE SEES HER BECAUSE IT REMINDS HIM THAT HE'S THE BOSS SO EVEN IF HE SCREWS HER OVER, IT'S OKAY BECAUSE ONLY HIS HAPPINESS MATTERS. . . I don't get it. They say harem is a man's dream but that's because it's a dream, IRL with each new relationship your existing relationships crumble a bit more (not nowadays in consenting poly-relationships but that's different). Why did he ruin it. They were both super busy and didn't get to spend much time together... and then he spends his freetime on a new girl? Instead of inviting MC to go on a horseride with him? #¥)@^+*!¥☆}¤¿《■
From the very start, that guy was a butthole deserving no redemption

 

I can only say that he's extremely selfish and his love is made in china.
A smart person can imagine the pain of cheating even in the era where polygamy is allowed for men.(most of crimes was normalised that time)
They just have to think..."how will I feel if my wife kiss others? or share each little things just like how she does to me?"
If they really like somebody it's not that difficult to realise this little thing.

 

So, I just read chapter 25 (or 26) and Eris verbalizes how, despite feeling worthless and unwanted in her original Korean life, when she remembers her past she recalls the good things first. So her decision to escape from this world is not just cowardice on her part but due to true attachment of her original life. This is the most satisfying answer to my question so far.

 

omg this sounds so interesting

does this story have a webtoon? I am a visual person

 

It has a manhwa https://bato.to/series/93302/kill-the-villainess-official

 

I second to this.