Discussion Author who insert his/her kinks or fetish into his novel

Well first, what I mean by kinks or fetish in this context isn't just a simple fondness to a certain object.

It is more like how Author decide to insert unusual status or relationship that doesn't really affect the story greatly as an element in his/her novel.

For example,

• novel with MC's sister-in-law whose husband has died as a love interest
• novel with MC's blood relation as a love interest
• novel in which the love interest is someone MC acquired forcefully from an established relationship

Will you continue to read novels which have thing I mentioned above?

 

Not if it's revolting. It could be a minor element— even the most trifling among such elements— but I wouldn't read it if it grosses me out. As for your examples, I might read the first two, but only if it's porn. The third one implies some degree of coercion and blackmail or it might just be straight up rape, which is a huge turn-off, R18 or not.

 

Yeah, there are many such novels that i read where there are stuff like that. If i don't dislike it, then i will continue reading. maybe even a thumbs up if its written well. If its not, it's basically "understandable, have a nice day."

Ultimately, it comes to my own taste. Author gonna write what he wants.

 

Third is ntr? I am fine with those.
Weirdly enough I dislike this sort of behaviour from the main love in shoujo - ML forcing the heroine (with or without a romantic partner) into a relationship.

 

It’d depend on whether their kinks end up coming off as gimmicky due to poor writing or not...

 

If it's not important it won't make me drop the novel.
As for the examples, I would read the first, the second probably not and the last no.

 

How would a author NOT insert their own preferences kinks/fetishs into a story they're writing?

 

The third is a more broad case in my mind. Straight to the case, I will take the Queen from mob protagonist novel as an example.

Many seems to like it, but personally her development as a heroine screams like Author kinks to me

IDK, i never read it in the first place

True, reader decide what to consume in the end

Black-bellied ML in shoujo is just straight up a massive turn-off for me

You mean something like the kinks are there just to compensate Author lack of skills to create a more relevant plot?

 

All of them insert kinks consciously or not. Unless it's yaoi I don't care

 

Well, for the start a general approach is a safe and measured step to take.

You need to read my introduction in this thread, a "normal" kinks or fetish is not a problem in this thread. The problem is the unexpected and unnecessary one Author insert into his/her novel that isn't an overarching plot and just there for the sake of "I write this because I like it"

 

The first type is acceptable but challenging to write.
As the second type... To be honest, I'm a girl obsessed with incest, especially those of twins or elder sister and younger brother. Though I find elders using their position to imitate their nominal or actual juniors into relationship with them disgusting
The third type is crossed over; unless the supposedly forced love interest had been actually manipulating the situation emotionally and psychological against the apparent dominant in the relationship (⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)

So in final conclusion, it depends upon what kink is more comfortable to each reader

P. S: That was dirty of me, I know.

 

I don't really care as long as I'm into it and the summary states what to expect. So I wouldn't accidentally end up reading a child raising novel just for the father figure to end up marrying his daughter, Usagi drop still makes me wary of child raising novels and manga.

 

I understand what you were saying what I'm saying is if you're reading a story where any one of those examples could possibly pop up it seems unlikely that the author wouldn't insert their own fetishes/kinks

 

The same way as an author trying to write a story happening in a culture they don't know about. It could be a gimmick for a new story he's trying out or he's trying to expand his repertoire or trying to be creative etc. While there are a lot of self insert authors out there, not all stories are self insert. Thank God *imagines Silence of the Lambs being author fetish*

 

For me, continued reading depends on whether I personally dislike the kink or not. I don’t need to like it to enjoy it, if that makes sense.

As for an author inserting their own preferences into their novel, isn’t that the point of writing a novel? One of my favourite authors once said something to the effect of; ~the target audience of any fictional literature should be the author themself~ and I mostly agree with him. If you can’t enjoy your own story, how can you expect anyone else to?
That is probably why I don’t like very many LN adaptations of a WN. The author starts writing for the wider audience instead of for fun, and they end up turning gold into garbage, for example the Slave Harem Labyrinth light novel.

 

I don't mind the 1st and 2nd ones too much, especially if it's just potential love interest. I just move on and leave it be.
... That said, I'm actually super fond of relationships with something messed up on them. Like big age gaps or relationships between members of the same family... For as long as they are treated seriously and are given the appropriate depth that should be given when you make the characters realize that the attraction that they have for someone is messed up. I really love reading this kind of thing~

As for the 3rd one... I'd need a really really good hook for that one. I can't imagine reading about an MC that actively pulls someone away from their established relationship, but maybe said relationship was abusive or something, maybe the MC was trying to save the person he pulled away from the relationship... I think there is potential here, but it needs to be well executed.
If it's just a story of the MC NTRing someone though, then I'm dropping~

 

I would probably drop it if it wasn't just for kicks and it seemed like the author's morals weren't screwed on right...

Like if the story was about fixing those relationships properly or transforming MC into a proper person (maybe if someone else transmigrated as MC), or if the situation wasn't with MC and was with a minor character and MC is here to set it right, maybe.

If not... hah hah. Drop.

 

To be fair though, all three of those examples are of a love interest for the mc, if that doesn't have a importance to the story that can be a problem in itself, regardless of if it is using a fetish or not.
Aside for that I don't necessarily mind a story merely having any of those, but I do have a problem if the story is giving off the impression that the author is fetishizing them, though it can sometimes be hard to draw the line of when it passes into fetishizing.

On another note, of the three examples used if it is actually explored properly and not fetishized, then the third example is the only one I might still have a problem with.
As long as it is consensual relationships without some form of coercion I don't really care if it is incest or not, just as long as it is done well.

 

isn't it like author just insert whatever idea then continue? maybe for click bait, maybe cuz inexperience, maybe cuz lack of planning maybe whatever~
meh sound just usual stuff~
its like mc get someone interested at mc on lovey sense then later that character just forgotten~

wanna see proof?
harem~
nyahahaha!

 

No, I don’t really mind it, unless it’s noticeable to the point that it disrupts the flow of the story.

On that note, this reminds me of a novel I read a long time ago, where the author had a major fixation on feet. Like, not the casual “pale, dainty ankle” mentioned here or there like in other stories, but a full on 3-page description of a several characters’ feet in comparison. It was so bizarre. I wish I knew what novel it was because it’s so funny in hindsight, but I can’t remember