Spoiler A Stepmother's Märchen

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  1. Berry.Blast.20

    Berry.Blast.20 Well-Known Member

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    If you've read the novel, can you atleast provide a crux to how Theobald fell to disgrace?..Like how he got caught and all ?
     
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    I don't read the novel but i did find the wiki page for the novel. Basically Nora got poisoned when he escort Shuli to Safabi, Nora's father began to suspect Theobald to have poisoned Nora. Eventually many bad things Theobald did was exposed (he opened a gambling house and try to get his brother into gambling), His attempts to woo Shuli make him look worse in the eyes of the kids and people around him, and Elizabeth start to see the error of her way and pay more attention to her real son. After the civil war, Nora's dad and the other nobles want Theobald remove from the crown prince position since he too close to the Papacy and they just fought a war with the Papacy (the Emperor doesn't resist and agree). Theobald got exiled to another country but return one last time to attend Rachel's wedding. Jeremy notice that he doesn't seem to have change his way.
     
  3. Thamalasca

    Thamalasca Editing MTL's for "I'll Save this Damn Family"

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    @Archaon Thanks so much for the info!
     
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    dumplingslag Well-Known Member

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    I think Jeremy kills him before he could commit suicide .

    Lol Jeremy fell in love with shuri. Don’t think he has the right anymore!!!
     
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    What happend to the head knight on the first life after killing Shuri? Was he exposed and executed?
     
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    KindapitiedMielle Well-Known Member

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    OMG YESS! :blobsmilehappyeyes: - oop, that leaked out :blobsalute:
    Why exactly does he commit suicide though? And why does Jeremy kill him? Also are you talking about this time line or the other time line? :blobsleepless:
     
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    He kidnapped Shuli and want her to admit herself to the church (basically become a nun against her will) but Shuli escape after ridiculed him. When the civil war ended and the Vatican get invaded, he see nowhere else to go and decided to commit suicide but failed. He was captured by Jeremy (who is leading the army invading the Vatican) and is implied to be executed by Jeremy.
     
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    KindapitiedMielle Well-Known Member

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    Well, I guess that confirms it @Thamalasca (btw this wasn't the source I was talking about a few days ago, but this just confirms it)

    Shuli was physically abused by Johannes :blobpensive:. This makes me wonder, in the last panel of the first chapter, when Shuli says,
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    It's probably a reference to the extent of how she was controlled by Johannes in order to be made into the perfect marchioness anyways, f/ck you Johannes, I trusted you :blobpitch:

    This part just makes me so sad :blobconfounded:
    It's the fact that Jeremy is so devastated because of this image that he had of this father and he initially blamed Shuli for marrying Johannes and inheriting the estate when in reality she was forced into everything and suffered through so much more than just the physical abuse, but the torments of Johannes and his children, as well as society.

    Shuli is definitely right, It is not Jeremy or his siblings' fault at all. It's not a lie that Johannes loved his children, to the point he was willing to destroy another child's life to save them. But he's still a shitty person to Shuli and Jeremy understands that.

    Our Jeremy has grown so much :blob_patpat:
     
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    Does anybody know what’s up with the updates? I thought they were supposed to be weekly on Thursday but they’ve been off the past couple of weeks…
     
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    Wait I was confused did the captain knight kill her? I thought he was just unable to protect her and unknowingly passed info to his priest friend that's why he was punished/executed
     
  11. Rurubot

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    hello i'm new here. I haven't read the novel yet since it's not available in my area, but i wanna ask, what kind/type of love do Nora, Jeremy, Theo, and Cardinal had for Shuli? Can you pls elaborate?
     
  12. SamV

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    In the novel, he killed her along with other mercenaries, and mutilated her body. In the manhwa, he kinda realize he saw her at the wrong light, and tried to catch up to her, but she died from being murdered from other group, sent by the bad priests
     
  13. ATrueStory

    ATrueStory Villainesses, Historical Shit, Noble Circuses

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    Nora - the kind of romance you want - slow but true, has a lot of issues but comes out fairly good.
    Jeremy - starts up as a mommy crush and he really loves her in a romantic way but cannot be cause she's legally her mother and Shuli doesn't love him that way.
    Theo - same as Jeremy but much more dangerous and toxic. He is a little bit like the Cardinal in terms of possesiveness but the fact I believe he really doesn't love her but he loves the idea of her being with him
    Cardinal - the bad and the most toxic kind. He looks at her as someone who should be with him by hook or by crook. Doesn't care if she has/doesnt feelings for him but he wants her and wants her locked in am on mastery because he wants all of her to himself.
     
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    Agreed. By reading the spoilers here, this is my additional take on Jeremy's love for Shuri.

    Yes, he loves her romantically. But he really wants her to be happy even though Shuri doesn't know his feelings and doesn't love him romantically. I really find his selfless love for her to be very touching.
     
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  15. Thamalasca

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    I'd like to add that Theo suffers from Oedipus complex regarding Shuli IMO. I think he is attached to her because she looks so much like his mother, at least in the beginning, it is obvious. Because she is nice to him and treats him like the other "children" she has to raise, he wants more of it, therefore he wants her to himself, because he is a spoiled brat, essentially.... And this Oedipus Complex (a stage which all children go through more or less unconsciously, falling in love with the parent of opposite gender and being jealous of the other parent) got twisted since Shuli is close of age to him and transformed into this weird love he has for her. The problem here is that he is in love with an image of Shuli that he created in his mind, a mix of the motherly love that he craved but never had, and romantic feelings that increased through time not who she really is.....
    Also, since he is a ruthless selfish prick , when Richelieu told Jeremy that Shuli was in the library with Theo and Jemery cought them in a "compromising position" and beat the crap out of Theo, when it is obvious that Theo was taking advantage of the situation to get closer to Shuli with underhanded means, and he was at fault, he didn't sepak up, letting Jeremy's trail go through in hopes of getting Shuli for himself. But is backfired making Jeremy hate him and Shuli become wary of him. This is the real first instance that you can see his ruthlessness, callousness and cold calculating nature. It is his blindness to other peoples feelings, greed and lack of compassion that made him loose everything in th end.
    Had he apologized after the events with Shuli and Jemery in the library, or at least made the situation clear so Jeremy could get off with a slight slap on the wrist, he probably could have kept Jeremy as his friend and Shuli might have liked him more and even maybe become a potential ML.
     
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    Do you have a link to this side story?

    What kind of relationship between Jeremy and Diane :hmm::hmm:
    How to act with each other
     
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    Now it's clear to me. Thank you so much!!!
     
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    It seems the manga and the novel are going to be different with some similarities.
     
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    I read somewhere that Shuli was abused by Johannes, the former marquess, is that true?