LCD The Strongest Dull Prince's Secret Battle For The Throne

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  1. Alexwood

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    Hmm weird then i wonder why the original translator have to delete all of the webnovel versions (yes its the light novel that got licensed) anyway the WN chapters could just be there and No one would do anything (sorry if i missing something here)
     
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    runsing status : bleeding, health -10/s Novel Updates Staff

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    read @lunarshadow 's post, a few above mine
    https://forum.novelupdates.com/posts/6610404/

    some of the common reasons include
    - gestures of support/respect
    - not willing to take chance of treading murky water
    - was asked to (by someone, anyone, be it they have actual rights, or just a relation to, or even anons)
    - misinformation
    - tired of translating/wants to stop for a while, just happens to found a reason to (stop).
    - actually hired by the publisher to do the official ones, so they had to stop for it'll implicate their hiring contract

    there's definitely a few more i can't think of right now.
     
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    Thanks for the answer
     
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    I noticed that there were no updates on this novel for quite some time, so this is the reason.

    To be honest, the novel was not that good, but at least it had some very good things going for it (for example, the MC's brothers and sisters fate and the price they have to pay for their actions is not something that common on most novels --- since on most novels the MC will either forgive and save them, or humiliate them).

    So I'll just leave my own speculation here for future reference:
    The final boss and real responsible for everything is most likely the Brave himself.
    Either got tired of obeying the Empire,
    Or is pissed that his daughter is in love with a price
    Or the opposite: wants his daughter love to succeed, but it would never as long as Arnold was a price. He would need to be either King or nothing.
     
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    Hi everyone, this is my first post in the forum. I've read all the 450 chapters translated by GraverobberTL, but fortunately you can read their work in another sites. I'm going to read the futher chapters, but it's MTL. As for spoilers of what happens, here it is:

    Who killed Wilhelm (crown prince) and who's the one that "brainwashed" Zandra, Gordon and Eric?
    It's not revealed yet, it's the biggest mistery of the novel. When Silver invades one of the secret bases of Grimoire, he discovers a letter that a demon was talking to the "highness". It can be refered to some prince/princess of the empire or of the Demon Lord itself. Later, when the SS-rankers (Egor, Linares and Jack) were subjugating the demons on the Kingdom, they suspect that's leader between the demons. This leader of the demons is someone called "Grand Duke" and he is plotting with Lucious (Kingdom's crown prince) to destoy the empire.

    Who this "grand duke" is? If it's someone from the Empire, it can be Eric, Camilla (Eric's mother), the leader of the Brave house or Franz (Prime Minister). If it's someone from outside of the Empire, it can be someone from the adventurers guild or someone from Kingdom
    Does Leo betray Arnold in the future?
    No. A lot of people were expecting that Leo betray his own twin brother, because his character is the righteous one, but that doesn't happen. That's good, I like the interaction between them. Leo is one of the few people who thinks highly of MC since the beginning and Arnold thinks highly of Leo too. What one of the twin excess, the other lacks. They are like yin and yang, but they do not hate each other, they love each other as siblings and protect each other.
    Who knows Silver's identity? [UPDATED]
    Gustav (MC's great-grandfather, the mad king who teachs Arnold ancient Magic), Sebas (the butler), Finne, Zandra (before she dies), Jack (one of the SS-rank adventures) and Henrick (after Arnold faked his death). UPDATE: Silver reveals to Linares and Clyde that he's Silver at chapter 479.
    What about romance? Who Arnold ends up with?
    MC didn't date anyone, after people discovers that he's not a dull at all (he didn't reveal his identity as silver yet) a lot of political marriages proposals came to him, but he choses to not marry anyone. However, when I saw the illustrations of all 6 volumes of the light novel, it looks like the author pushes more MC x Finne than the WN version, because Finne has a illustration in every volume and there're 3 illustrations of her and MC holding hands.

    As a WN reader, I like Finne, but I prefer Elna, because she's not a one/two dimension character. She has virtues (brave, loyalty, beautiful, strong), but also has some flaws (she got angry pretty easily, passional, small breasts). Her relationship with MC is more development than the Finne, who is usually the perfect girl/secretary/wife. Elna is willing to sacrifice her title as knight due to an oath made with MC (like she did when Christa got kidnapped), Elna thinks and defends Arnold when she's almost dying (like when she fought the spirit tirtle) and she got a trauma of water due to accidentaly drown MC. So her relationship is much more real than any other girl in the series. I really hope she ends up with Arnold at the end, because she's the one who deserves the most.

    When Arnold was receiving a lot of marriage offers, Elna said to him that only the emperor can have a polygamous relationship in the Empire. So my bet is that Leo becomes the King of Kingdom with saintess Leticia as empress and Arnold becomes the emperor of the Empire, having Finne, Elna and Charlotte as possibly wifes (tbh, I don't want to him be a emperor, but this is a LN and a lot of this type of stories ends up with a harem). I don't want a harem, just a threesome between Mc, Finne and Elna.

    Other girls that can be part of a possibly harem
    • Charlotte: the grandaughter of a high noble from the north (who's known to be the thunder god). Arnold helps her to reconquer the north from the rebelions. When char's grandpa is on the verge of death, he asks MC to take care of her, impling to him marrying her. However, after the north arc ends, she didn't appear. She has the same illness of Mc's mother.
    • Orihime: she's the "Celestial Princess" of Mizuho empire. She looks like a demi-human fox, almost like a "loli-oppai". She's c*cky and talks about herself in a self-important manner. She has high magical power and can create strong barriers. There's a moment when the emperor wanted to marry MC because he could rivalize his twin brother in the throne race, when Orihime knowns that, she offers to marry MC and live in the Mizuho empire (Finne's father and Elna's mother also offered their daughters to marry MC, but he decides that he won't marry anyone).

    • Lynfia: an a-class adventurer who works with MC in exchange to him helps her in rescue her little sister. She's a demi-human and her sister was kidnapped. The Duke from south is kidnapping demi-human and making experiments on them to bring demons back (This Duke is Zandra's uncle).
    • Sonia: a half elf who's great with strategy. She was raised by an old master strategist, but they got blackmailed by Gordon. After Silver frees her, she started to live with Egor and take care of him.
    • Mia: she's a "noble thief" that uses a magic bow. She goes to Empire to chase the people from Grimoire, a dark guild. In the story, there's no romantic indication between her and MC.
    What are the other SS-rank adventures?

    • Egor: a sword saint. He's the oldest SS-rank, a dwarf that lived hundreds of years. He's bad with directions and got lost pretty easily, but starts to live in Empire after Sonia take care of him.
    • Linares: a martial artist. It's a muscular and tall man, but dresses and acts like a woman (like a drag or Onnagata). Lives in Rondine. What's to be called "Lina" instead.
    • Noname: a magic swordsman. A mysterious black masked knight that didn't even revel his real name. Lives in Sokal and his goal is to make his sword surpass the Holy Sword, held by Elna.
    • Jack: an archer known as bow god. He's middle age man that is usually drunk and lazy.
    Jack is the Mia's father, but he abbandon his daughter to live as an adventure and got regret for that. Without his wife and daughter, he become a drunk man. I can say that he's the most "normal" of all SS-ranks (including MC). Noname is girl, a vampire. Arnold discovers her face.

    his is kinda confusing, how is the country's configuration?


    The Adraxia Empire (MC's land), is modeled after Germany and is located in the central part of the continent which corresponds to the body of the bird. The west wing is the Kingdom of Perlan (Modeled after France) and the east wing is the Sokal Empire (Modeled after Russia).

    These three countries are the top three superpowers of the continent.

    At the south is the Principality of Albatro and the Principality of Rondine located at the peninsula (Imagine Italy) that protrudes like a tail. On the head is the Cornix Dominion and above them is the island nation, the United Kingdom of Egret.


    How is the family tree of the Empire (consort/children) :

    • [*]Brunhilde (The Empress) / Wilhelm (Deceased. He was the crown prince) / Traugott (4th Prince)
      [*]Amelia (2nd Consort. Deceased) / Lizelotte (1st Princess) / Christa (3rd Princess)
      [*]Camilla (3rd Consort) / Eric (2nd Prince) / Carlos (4th Prince)
      [*]Sofia (4th Consort. Deceased) / Gordon (4rd Prince) / Conrad (6th Prince)
      [*]Zulan (5th Consort. Deceased) / Zandra (2nd Princess. Deceased) / Henrick (9th Prince. Desceased, but not)
      [*]Mitsuba (6th Consort) / Arnold (7th Prince) / Leo (8hth Prince)
      [*]Ziana (7th Consort) / Rupert (10th Prince)
    Everyone's age (from oldest to youngest) and what happens to eveyone of them:

    • [*]1st Prince, Wilhelm, 27 years old (At the time of his death)
      [*]2nd Prince, Eric, 28 years old (The smart one, has the most civil nobles in his faction. We see a very little by him and he's still has some Trump card to win the race)
      [*]3rd Prince, Gordon, 26 years old (Plot a rebelion against the Empire with Zandra and William - a dragon knight from United Kingdom - but lost and got killed by Leo. Has a wife and a daughter that are taking refuge at United Kingdom)
      [*]1st Princess, Lizelotte, 25 years old (Imperial Marshal who leads the Eastern Border Defense Forces. Does not parcipate in the throne race. She will end up with the Duke from east side, he's a great guy)
      [*]4rth Prince, Traugott, 25 years old (fat lolicon. Does not participate in the throne race, but has helped MC in key moments in the story. Now he's the king of Dominion and had a political marriage with the Diminion's princess, Marianne, who has 14yo. She consented for the marriage btw)
      [*]5th Prince, Carlos, 23 years old (only appeared at the first arc. He wanted to be a hero, so he dumbly used vampires to create a confusion and save the day, but fails miserably. After that, he's under house arrest and we don't see him in the story)
      [*]2nd Princess, Zandra, 22 years old (mad scientist, or evil witch you name it. She plots a rebelion with Gordon, but fail. After that, she was condemned to death by drinking the poison. In her last moments, Silver reveals his identity to her and Arnold kinda conforts her to her not die alone)
      [*]6th Prince, Conrad, 21 years old (When his brother, Gordon, rebelled, he was suppose to protect his mother, but he betrays her and kills her, siding with the Empire. Now he's with Eric. The emperor don't trust him because he killed his own mother)
      [*]7th Prince, Arnold, 18 years old (MC-kun, after commanding the nobles in the north on the rebellion. The emperor gives him a silver medal and he's not the dull prince anymore. People now know his serious side and gets marriage offers from every noble)
      [*]8th Prince, Leonard, 18 years old (Now it's only him and Eric in the race. He seems like a plain righteous character, but I like when Leticia got kidnapped and he goes full mad and killing everyone in front of him)
      [*]9th Prince, Henrick, 16 years old (an asswh*le who looked down on Al and considers Leo as his rival. He only made mistakes in the rebelion, costing the lives of many people. After, he tries to kill himself in front of the emperor, but MC secretly saves him. Now Henrick is learning ancient magic to work for MC and redeem himself)
      [*]3rd Princess, Christa, 12 years old (has precognition and a friend of her age called Rita, who wants to be a knight and protect her)
      [*]10th Prince, Rupert, 10 years old (In the rebellion arc, Arnold entrusts Rupert a "fake" rainbow ball to give to emperor. This rainbow ball is important because is one of the keys of capitals invisible shield. When Gordon saw Rubert, he underestimate the boy thinking is not worth for him to chase his little brother, but Rupert carried a real rainbow ball and completes his mission)
    About the Emperor and the consorts:

    Johannes (Emperor): blond and blue eyes. At first, he seems like a strong leader who doesn't give a shit about his children, but he loves all of his sons and daughters. He doesn't escape from his duties as an emperor, he always does what is the best for the Empire, but he got heartbroken and every time that one of his children dies (he already lost "4" of them - He doesn't know that Eric is still alive). He also wanted to marry his daughters, but Zandra and Lizze didn't marry. Later, he founds out that he has a grandaughter (Gordon's daughter), but he can't see her because his grandaughter and Gordon's wife (now widow), are taking refuge at United Kingdom (William becomes the king and take care of them).

    Brunhilde (empress). Johannes legal wife, it's a political marriage, but their relationship was okay until the death of the crown prince. Now she and Johannes are on bad terms, but she neves escapes her duties as empress. She was very against Traugott going to Dominion to become a king (because there was the place his son died and she doesn't want to lost another son), but Theresa (crown prince wife) convinces her.

    Amelia (2nd consort): She was the one who Johannes truly loved, but she was killed by Zulan (Zandra's mother).

    Camilla (3nd consort): we know very little about her, but her personality is similar to her son (Eric). In the rebellion arc, she tries to escape with the empress and leaves Mitsuba in a bad situation that can kills MC's mother, but Arnold prevents her to do that.

    Sofia (4th consort): she's the daughter of the Duke of the north (Charlotte's aunt). Sofia wanted to be a swordsman, but got her dreams crushed when she got a political marriage with Johannes. In the rebellion, due to her being Gordon's mother, she knew that she would be a target, so allies with her son and tries to kill Johannes, but got stabbed in the back by her own son, Conrad, who allied with the Empire and is now with Eric.

    Zulan (5th consort): she was the one who taugh Zandra about fobbiden magic and she was the one who made a spell to kill Amelia. Zulan is killed in the rebellion arc by Lizzelotte, who avengers her mother (reminder that Zulan's brother - Zandra's uncle - was the Duke of the south and he was making experiments on demi-humans. He was the villain of that arc)

    Mitsuba (6th consort): she was a dancer and she "enchanted" the emperor with a dance. Mitsuba is wise and a bunch of characters relies on her, when Amelia deceased, she took care of Christa as if she was her daughter. Mitsuba's unknown disease was the reason Arnold started to be a ancient magician, but she still didn't get cured. At the night she gives birth to Arnold and Leonard, Sebas was hired to kill her, but she convinces him to spare their lives.

    Ziana (7th consort): mother of Rupert, she got a political marriage and she has no political power. She hides in the inner palace with her son. In the rebellion arc, she asks Arnold to protect her son. Arnold didn't wanted, but Mitsuba convinces him.
     
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    I read the side stories and chapter 451 to 494, the biggest events from these chapters are:

    Silver has a disciple named Chlod, she's a S-rank adventure that uses ancient magic from her two swords. The misterious man that helped Rafael escape from Elna in the last arc is Noname (not the current one, but an older one). Linares grandfather, Anacletto, is responsible for the idea of creation of a weapon that surpasses the holy sword. Silver gains a ring from Linares that powers up his magic. Silver takes his mask off and reveals to Linares and Clyde that he's Arnold. Elna fights with Noname (the current one) in the empress birthday and ended in a draw (both aren't using their special weapons).

    Here's a summary from side stories:

    -2 years before the beginning of the novel
    -Arnold goes to a Magic School in the empire as a mission request. He found out there's ancient magic book and only one student can read
    -This student is named Chloe and she "doesn't" strong magical powers. She uses magical swords. Of course she would be the bottom of social class in the school and she's badly treaten by a high noble
    -Silver takes her out of school and takes her as discipline, he teachs ancient magic to her
    -Her mother is ill, later it's found that she has a dangerous plant parasyte inside her
    -Silver takes her to best doctor in the continent in Mizuho Sengoku (a small country where Orihime lives)
    -This small country has a lot of natural disasters, so other nation like Empire, Skol or Kingdom has domain over the land.
    -A lot of monsters appear and Chloe has to defend the town, because Silver is occupied helping the doctor
    -The cirurgy is a success, Silver comes back to help Chloe
    -By her actions at Mizuho Sengoku, Chloe becomes a AA-rank adventurer. Silver goes back to empire, but Chloe stays at Mizuho with her mother and she promises to meet Silver again when she becoems a S-rank adventurer
    -Chloe is a dual wilding swordswoman and can controls powerful magic

    Here's the summary of chapters 451 to 494

    -A year passes (from the last time Al and Leo saw each other at Capital in chapter 450), Traugott is the king of Dominion and Al is his Prime Minister. They're are still chasing down the corrupt nobles and gettering support to establish the goverment
    -The Empire and the Kingdom are still on ceasefire, but the Kingdom are making moves
    -The high nobles from Dominion don't like the fact that Al is arresting every currupt noble. To protect themselves, they plotted to kill him, but failed. After that, the high nobles made a political move remove Arnold from his position as Prime Minister and they achieve that, because Johannes send a letter asking Al to return to the Empire
    -However, it's okay, because they guy that high nobles think is the leader of "anti prime minister" faction (Brad) is a supporter of Arnold. So Brad becomes the new PM and Al goes back to Empire with Finne and Mia
    -For the first time we get a chapter focusing Eric (455). He lives in the mansion of the Duke of Altenburg (the oldest and most prestigious noble in the Empire that for generations their family members are the Prime Ministers of the Empire), Eric has a wife called Leia Lakes Ardler, she has a unknowm illness, so she passes her time on bed.
    -She's the 3rd character that has a uncurable and misterious dicease (Mitsuba and Charlotte are the other). This illness is one of the mysteries of the novel
    -Eric was asked if he still wants to dispute the throne at the sucession race, because the members of the family were killed and divided, but he says nothing (meaning that he still wants the throne)
    -Different from Gordon and Zandra, Eric says that he wants to achieve peace when he becomes the emperor. At the end of the chapter, he orders Shaomay (remember her? It's an assassin maid who works for Eric) to take an action indicating that he will start to move now
    -When Arnold arrives at the king's landing, Johannes, Franz, Leo and Eric are discussing the eminent war the Empire will have with Kingdom. The Duke of East (the one who loves Lizze) arrives with a letter from Lizze.
    -In the letter, she aks to switch the troops from east to west (of course it denied, because it's very unrealistic in a short time), so she sugests to Leo goes at war in the west frontlime with Eric aiding him, like Eirc did in the past with Whilelm (this move would make Leo win the succession war). Eric got "trapped" and accept the decision, for now
    -Arnold visits Guy (his friend at the capital who trains the children) and asks about the situation of the succestion war from a commoner POV. He said that most of the nobles still supports Eric (especially the one who doesn't want to change that lives in the capital), but the nobles from the borders supports Leo (and the ones who want to change)
    -Arnold is alone in the throne room with Johannes, Franz and Brave, Al says that he couldn't fing any evidence about crown prince's death by the time he stayed at Dominion. Johannes talks about the possibility of his son being killed by a demon
    -The new sub arc starts with a secret meeting between Al and 3 of the imperial knights (Elna, Theodore and Ailda), they ask MC to find Nigel an ex-knight who killed his own master (Rothschild) and is now carryng a powerful magic sword. Rothschild was Theodore's master too, him a Nigel grew up together as orphans
    -To allure Nigel, Arnold and Elna have a dinner at a restaurant (the chief was the one who made a bad food for Al arcs ago). Elna was reading a red dress, with her back and upper chest open, very womanly. She was very embarassed wearing
    -The ambush goes right and Nigel was transfered there was only him, Ailda and Theodore. They fight each other, Ailda separates herself from the fight and gives a sneak attack, stabbind Nigel's heart in the back (breaking the knight's code)
    -They thought that Nigel was going to die, but he uses the flames from his magic sowrd to heal the wound and regenerate himself, he become a "Flame God".
    -A misterious man wearing a black robe appears, it's the same man who let Rafael escape when he was facing Elna. However, Arnold, Sieg, Sebas, Lynfa and Elna with a holy sword arrives
    -Elna easily defeats Nigel, but the black robe man stole the sword and escape. Silver tracks him and discovers that the black robe man is Noname, not the vampire young girl, but another one. It's the ancestral noname, their leader, he wanted the magical fire sword since the beginning to feed his own magic sword.
    -There are Silve, Noname (ancestral leader) and various others nonames, they are about to fight, but Linares appears, talks to noname, treats him and takes the sword. Linares and Silver goes back to adventurers HQ to deliver the sword
    -Now is one of the most important chapters of the novel (478). In the HQ of the Adventurers guild, Linares reveals to Silver that it was his grandfather, Anacletto Linares, who brought up the ideia of feeding a Magic sword to surpass the Holy Sword. He had good intentions, because he was afraid of another demon invasion and don't want to rely soleny of one weapon
    -Anacletto Linares was a genius wizard who helped the first Brave to beat the Demon Lord, he's also the founder of the adventurers guild, created the S-rank system and even extended his and his son lifespan to live 300 years
    -However, the next nonames divert from that goal and now they're only obsessed with surpass the holy sword. The adventurers guild don't eliminate the "nonames" in a fear of demons appearing again and they needing help, Linares don't stop them because he doesn't want to stop his grandfather's plan
    -at the end, Linares gives to Silve a powerful ring belonged by Anacletto. It's one of the 4 treasures of the sacred equipment
    -Silver plans to make Noname fight Elna at the capital of the Empire, it's a risk move, but would free both of them of their duties created by their ancestors
    -So Silver reveals to Linares and Clyde that he's Arnold
    -Silver goes to throne room and convinces Johannes of brigging Noname to the Empire and eventually she and Elna fight each other. He also said that he will bring Chloe, a S-rank adventurer who is his apprendice
    -Noname (current, the vampire girl) and Chloe arrives to the Empire. Oddly, Chloe and Noname become friends, Chloe isn't afraid of Noname because she is used to interact to masked people
    -In the royal library, Arnold found an old book written by the first Brave himself (the one who beat the Demon Lord) and it tells that before Brave faces the Demon Lord, he and another man had fight challenge to decide which one will use the holy sword to defead the Demon Lord. After beating the Demon Lord, the first Brave became a hero, but this other man was erased from the history. This man is the ancestor of the Nonames (Anacletto Linares was not one of the "Nonames", he was the one who brought up the idea of creating a magic sword stronger than the holy sword, just to make it clear)
    -Later, Elna and Noname fight each other at the day of Empress Birthday, Johannas arranged a big event in a coliseum. Henrick is disguised as Silver sitting next to Johannes and Arnold is with his Brother. In the middle of the fight, the remaining SS-rankers appeared too.
    -Elna and Nonane are using normal swords to fight, they aren't allowed to use the Holy Sword and the Magic Sword. It was a closed fight that ended in a draw, Elna is a better swordsman, but Noname is apprendice of Linares, so she closed the gap by using her fists
    -After the fight, Johannes revealed to the public the truth about Noname 500 years ago, makes a public apology to Noname and revealed that the man who fought the first Brave before the Demon Lord was named Irvine Knox
    -Johannes cleans the Noname's "family reputation" and says that she's allowed to chose a new name for her, but she didn't chose.

    After reading all those chapters, I made a small power scale. Here's my opinion of the strongest to weakest character in this novel:
    Silver> Elna (with Holy sword) > Egor, Noname and Linares > Jack and Orihime > Ailda and Theodore > Elna (without holy sword) > Leo, Gordon and Sebastian > Sieg, Mia, Zandra, Leticia and Chloe > Lynfa > Rita > Alois > Arnold

    My honest opinion of these chapters:

    I really got annoyed by the fact that MC reveals his secret to Linares and Clyde, but he still didn't reveal to Elna, there's no reason for that. In the past arcs, he wanted to reveal to her, but he was stopped by Sebas to do so, the problem is Sebas used a bullshit reason of why not reveal and since then 4 characters discovered that Arnold is Silver (Jack, Henrick, Linares and Clyde). None of these characters are more important or trustworth Mc than Elna. Let's remind that in the past, Henrick always mocked Al for he being a "dull prince" and later he betrayed the empire, so doesn't make sense he revealing his biggest secret to someone like him and not Elna, even though Henrick became some sort of Al's sidekick.

    I liked the fact that the author give some development for Eric, Linares and Noname, not making them a one or two dimension character like the others and how spend time for worldbuilding development (the Anacletto parts). However, I didn't like the way how Noname became noname. Lost a duel challenge for the holy sword and got forgotten in the history books, that's it? That's another stupid things the plot of this novel has.
     
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    Where can I read the novel? (In NU there is no QwQ chapter) and in which chapter does Zandra die?

    Thanks for the summary
     
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    Unfortunately, I don't have the points to send a link of the websites, but you can read GraverobberTL's TL on ([Redacted]). I'm current reading the MTL on [Redacted]

    Also, about the number of the chapter

    Zandra dies at chapter 277, it's one of my favorite moments. I didn't hated Zandra, Iliked this chapter it was nice seeing her in her last moments and MC making a nice deed of staying with her for her don't die alone. In case you're wondering, Gordon dies at chapter 373.
     
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    I've read the 495 to 533 chapters.

    Here's a quick resume of the events:

    The Empire and Kingdom are about engage in a war. With that, Arnold goes to the Principality of Albatro (that country from arc 2 when Silver and Elna fought the Sea Dragon), because Albatro has a strong navy and they are longtime Kingdom allies. Al's mission is to make Albatro an allie of the Empire, due to the recent actions of the Empire, Albatro owes the Empire.

    However, Albatro is politically divided, Marcel, an ambassador of the Kingdom, with the Duke, make a coup d'etat and take the throne. So Al Julio (the young prince from arc 2 that admires Leo), the border nobles and the reinforcements of the Empire engage in a battle against Marcel, Duke and the aristocrats of Albatro. At the same time, Sebas, Lynfia and Finne goes to Rondine (former enemy of Albatro, they become allies at arc 2) to get a support of the country.

    There's also a chapter that Al goes to the future (I guess) and Silver helps to defeat a spirit turtle (a weak version of that one he fought before). The one who asked for his help was a boy with blond hair and blue eyes and he's wearing royal clothes. Al guesses that boy is an Adler. Basically, that boy is Al's relative, it can be the son/grandson/great great grandson of him and Finne or between Leo and Leticia.

    A summary of all the events:
    -The Empire and The Kingdom are going to an inavitable war;
    -The third prince of Kingdom is the o commanding all of the army of Kingdom, he's described as a genius of war;
    -Empire and Kingdom have already went to war 10 years ago and the key factor for today's war is the Principality of Albatro, due to their strong Navy;
    -The Kingdom and Albatro are longtime allies, but due to different generation and Leo's actions at Albatro, the situation can change;
    -So Arnold, with Sebas Finne, Sieg, Lars (Narber Ritten) and Finn (the guy who rides a Dragon) are sent to Albatro. There's a high chance of them being kept as hostages;
    -On his way to Albatro, Al stays in a inn, but suddenly got transfered to another reality (some sort of white room like in Fullmetal Achemist);
    -In the room, there's boy with blond hair, a very blue eyes and he's wearing royal clothes, looking at him, Arnold knows that the kid is a Adler. This kid used an ancient summon magic (that only children can use it in special condicions) and asks Al for help;
    -Al is transfered to a battlefield and see a group of knights fighting a Spirit Turtle, but this Spirit Turtle is not like that one he fought before, because Al could defeat the beast without the help of another SS-ranks;
    -The guy leading the knights reconises Silver (not as Arnold, only silver) and it looks like that knight is the brother of that boy. Besides the knight leader, there's another knight with Black armor, he talks a few works and Arnold wakes up in his inn room (my guess is the blond kid is from the future and he's probably the grandson or later generations of MC with Finne or Leo with Leticia, because both of them are blond and have blue eyes);
    -In the western border, the Kingdom soldier sent a trap to the Empire's mages at the frontline (the ones who were under Zandra's command). The Kingdom's third Prince is named Ansem;
    -Al goes to Albatro on a military ship and on his way to proncipality, he mets his uncle, the Duke Diethelm von Bergwein. Johannes had 5 brothers and 3 died against him. The other 2 supported and gained a title of Duke. Al's uncle was the 3rd prince and the first important person to support Johannes;
    -The problem is the envoy of Kingdom already came to Albatro e he's putting pressure on the prince, but also Albatro owes the Empire. The prince has been divided;
    -So, Al says that they need to convince the Principality of Rondine to support the Empire before, because Albatro and Rondine became allies since the Sea Dragon incident. The mission os to get a letten from Rondine and convince Albatro to allie with the Empire. He sends Finne to do that;
    -After, they go to Albatro to the birthday of the Duke Pastore, the younger brother of the king of Albatro. The envoy of Kingdom was there (his name is Marcel de Vantar) and the Eagle Lion Knight of Kingdom too (it's a flying beast). So Arnold and Finn (who riding his Dragon, Nova) steal the spotlight and appeared at the event. Al got cheers from the crowd and was well welcomed due to Leo's reputation ("Leo" was a major figure in the subjugation of Sea Dragon, he's a hero to them);
    -Albatro's prince is called Donato di Albatro and when Arnold talked to him, he agrees to support the Empire (because Kigdom isn't trustworth anymore. They tried to kill their saintess and there's a suspectof demons in their territory), but he can do that because the Principality of Albatro is politically instable. If the prince open supports the Empire, the Duke Pastore will rebel and ascend to the throne (the old nobles support the Kingdom too);
    -Arnold talks with Julio (that young prince from the 2nd arc who admires Leo) and he's on Empire's side;
    -Al and Julio have to hurry up, because Duke Pastore is gathering the nobles nearby the capital to make a coup d'etat. So Al and Julio goes to the Admiral of Navy, but the Admiral wants to be neutral and don't engage in a battle because Kingdom is a Albatro's longtime ally, but one of his subordinates (a capitan who appeared in arc 2) change his mind after telling all the thigs that Empire did for Albatro in arc 2;
    -Duke Pastore conquers the capital, but he knows he couldn't do it without Marcel;
    -In Rondine, Finne is waiting to talk with the king, but he doesn't attends her, it's the prince of Rondine who meets her. He's with Eva (the princess of Albatro, the one who Al saved disguise as Leo in arc 2 and she falls in love with), she's here to do the same thing as Finne. The problem is that Kingdom sent a famous and beautiful dancer fro. Their country to distract the king;
    -At the north of Albatro (in the south border of Empire), Diethelm is bringing a soldiers to help Al;
    -In Rondine, Finne and others discovers that the dancer was putting some medicine (drug) in the tea of the king to make him sleepy and others sintoms. They try to "desintoxicate" the king, but he got in a "almost coma" state. The blond dancer's name is Milaine (or Mirene. The MTL didn't make it clear);
    -Duke Pastore has 6.000 soldiers, Al and Julio has 3.000 (1.000 soldiers that they gathered from nobles + 2.000 from reinforcements). In their first encounter, Duke has the upper hand because of his outnumbered soldiers, but their morale was beaten by Al's side;
    -Duke Pastore and Marcel had an arguement, Marcel says the Duke doesn't have the battle knolodge to command the troops. The aristocats asks to Duke to make Marcel the one who commands the soldiers, because they would lose if they don't do that;
    -Al suspects that Marcel is actually the third prince of Kingdom, Ansem;
    -Marcel's strategy is to launch 5.000 men on all out attack at the fort (where the 2.000 reinforcements are) and 1.000 men would be on his direct command;
    -realizing that, Al orders Finn to go to fight on the other 1.000 soldiers (on their side), because he knows that 2k men can't win against 5k;
    -The Eagle Lion Knight drop Barrels containing oil on the west side of the fort and light the fire on it. With that, Marcel's soldiers concentrate the attack on the east side. They're are having success until Julio comes up and boost the morale of the soldiers (Al indirectly helps with his magic);
    -Seeing that, Marcel orders the 5k soldiers to a temporary retreat to make another attack. However, only 4k follows his command, because Duke Pastore takes the lead of 1k men to charge at the fort. It was a stupid decision and some minor character was thinking that;
    -Finn returns to the fort and helps at the fort. The 1k soldiers under Pastore's command was beaten by 2k soldiers on the fort + Finn;
    -Marcel got very mad by their failure, take some medicines and sleeps. When he wakes up, he decides to split the soldiers, 3k stay with Duke at the fort and the 2k remaining go back with him to the capital. By the dialogues between Marcel and his knight Lisette, it's indirectly confirmed that Marcel is the 3rd prince of Kingdom;
    -The border troops came in a total of 8k soldiers. They surrounded the Duke's army and make him a hostage;
    -There's a risk of Marcel and Barnabas (Duke's Pastore son) to make the king a hostage (who's in the castle), but Rondine rescue the king first;
    -What it happens is, Finne comes to Albatro as an "ambassador of Rondine". She wants to go to the capital and rescue the king, but Capitan Mestro advises her of not doing that, because there's a risk of Finne being capture and Julio lost his advantage in the battle. However, Finne convinces Mestro. Her plan is going to the capital and talk with Barnabas (because she's beautiful, he would definitely want to meet her) with Sebas, Lynfia and some Naber Ritter men go to the castle to rescue the king;
    -She goes to throne room, Barnabas allowed her to go with only Sebas by her side. Finne execute her plan, they rescue the king, but Barnabas escapes;
    -Julio goes to the capital on ship, he can't return on land because Marcel is blocking the path. When he was arriving, there are 10 Navy ships to stop him, but Julio uses "talk no jutsu" and convinces the ships to allow him enter in the city;
    -Julio and Al reunites with the king, Sebas and Finne;
    -When Marcel got the information that the capital was taken, he goes to the port to escape and then he finds Barnabas. Marcel got really mad and scolded Barnabas, because the boy was easily tricked by Finne;
    -Milaine (the blond dancer that was in Rondine) appears and she says to Marcel that they obstructured the naval forces. Before leaving, Marcel writtes a letter to Al;
    -The aristocrats that were on Duke's side arrest Barnabas, sends him to the king and they surrender. The king spare the aristocrats to don't cause more internal conflits in Albatro and don't weaken the principality in an eventual war with outside forces;
    -When Al got the letter, Marcel said that Arnold only won because of Finne and she's comparable to an army of 10k men. At the end of the letter, Marcel reveals himself as the 3rd prince of Kingdom;

    My personal review of this arc:

    TOO MANY CHARACTERS! In less than 40 chapters, this arc introduced at least 12 new characters and it's difficult to keep up who is who. Not only you have a lot of new characters, you have the already established characters too, so you have to remember who is who from the arc 2, like Julio, Mestro and Eva. One the things I love about this novel is the large family tree of the Empire and the fact EVERYONE appears and do something, but having a lot of characters outside of the family is hard to keep up. I like MC's uncle btw, he's similar to Al in some aspects.

    Also, this whole Rondine subplot is really stupid, how no one from the Rondine notice that the king was tricked by the Kingdom's dancer? Everyone knows that Empire and Kingdom are about to going on a war, so everyone should be suspect of a suddenly appearance of a dancer (Mata Hari copycat) and the change of king's behavior. It got worse when Finne is the only one who notice about the tea. How the people from Rondine let a foreign make a tea for the king and no one knows about the effects of medicine leaves.

    After that, Finne goes to Albatro as an ambassador of the Rondine and that's one of the most ridiculous things this novel has ever made. The author doesn't know shit about diplomacy, how can a foreign be an ambassador of a country? It conflits with the sovereignty of the country, specially if the person is an official envoy of another country. Not only that was bullshit, but also that letter from the end saying that Finne is comparable to an army of 10.000 men, that doesn't make sense. She just tricked a boy because she's beautiful.

    This whole Rondine subplot is useless, because Finne could arrive later without being an envoy of Rondine and still rescues the king and take control of the castle.

    I was really concern about how MC would win the battle if Marcel is really the 3rd prince, because Ansem (3rd prince) is described as a war genius, but what I've read is none of that. If he was really a genius, how his soldiers got shaken when Julio step up at the fort? Julio is just a boy that was hiding behind Eva at arc 2. He's not a genius at all, actually William (the former Dragon Knight that became the United Kingom king) is a better strategist than him.

    This is the worst arc of the entire novel, it's even worse than the White Seagull arc (when the nobles at the capital make an alliance to separate MC from Finne due to jealousy). I got really annoyed reading that.
     
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    dereonlad Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the summary it's both familiar and also adds some new things like the space time spirit turtle battle.
     
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    Kadokawa, but no idea when the release date
     
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    I have a question, I was reading the manga some said in the comment section that mc pimp one of his girls to a lesbo? Is it true?
     
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    Hi, I kinda continued the translation for this series knowing the risk of a DMC so ya. Anyway my upload schedule is Sunday, Wednesday and Friday with 2 chapters on those days for the whole of July
     
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    Seems interesting
     
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    Translator turned Silver into a woman in ch 487. He/She also got a few tenses wrong. One of the sentences was also completely messed up.
     
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    anyone here already reading to the newest chapter ?
    is there any development with the girls ?
    does mc finally telling his silver identity to Elna ?
     
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    Dear All, the main series has finally ended at chapter 767.... While the author has stated that they might add side stories I still have the monumental task of ensuring that I translate the series to the end.... which leads to about 100+ chapters to go! Fight on!
     
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    The author has currently added 8 post-epilogue stories + a White day one on their youtube channel, In case you finish the main story and want to translate that. The same content is available on their Kakuyomu account as well, though it is lagging behind the youtube community posts, as it is missing Elna's propose story and the white day story, so I'd recommend to check their youtube. Also you're almost done, keep up the good work!

    Utterly false, nothing of the sort happened. That commenter probably misconstrued what happened in the deal with the Ajin Company.

    After the big bad demon, Dantalion is defeated, Arnold jumps into the portal to the demon world, and uses the 4 sacred treasures made from the meteor to seal the gate so that demons cannot come over anymore. This takes him 3 years to do, and he comes back on the day of Leo's wedding with the saint Leticia, due to an ancient dragon appearing. After he and Elna defeat it, he tries to disappear as his existence will just act as problem for leo since he weilds so much power. Finne and Elna tell him to take them along with him if he is going to disappear again. Al tries to talk them out, but they won't hear any of it. He then says if they can find him, he might think about it, and after announcing his return to everyone in the capital using voice amplification, he also says anyone who threatens the empire will answer to him and disappears.
    He then goes to his friend, guy who has a dojo in the outskirts of the city, and after catching up, he has a heartfelt talk about his current state. Finne and Elna arrive, and Guy gives them space, and arnold confesses he has truly became a dull prince, as the seal takes all his magic power and the 4 treasures to close the gate, meaning he can't use any magic on his own and he relies on magic jewels now, and he has also lost feeling in his right leg. Fine and Elna don't care about that and want to be with him, and he confesses that he loves them. Along with Sebas, the 3 leave, with Sebas giving a letter from leo, which states that Al will have a special pedigree like the brave house for 1 generation, giving him equal authority as the emperor. Al decides to continue supporting his brother from the shadows.
    He also proposes to Finne and Elna in the afterstories, and IIRC, Finne's one even has a glimpse into the far future, with her son and Elna's daughter from Al setting of to become Leo's son's aides. As for Charlotte, the ending of the 8th after story teases her requesting mitsuba to become Leo's cocubine, but I feel Al will solve it.
     
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    thx for confirming!