Discussion What’s with Guys Especially Japanese MCs with Always Girls Instead of The Guys?

I don’t understand stand why there isn’t novels with just bros or maybe a girl just for representation? You will only come across this in sports novels or you will see a close male relationship as fujoshi bait. There was a time when guys would go on adventures together in fiction. I hope that I’m not alone whom feels this way xd

 

It's one of the reasons https://www.novelupdates.com/series/water-magician/ is so great for me. There are female characters all the time, but the MC mostly just hangs out with his bros from what I can see.

 

Thanks I will look into it!

 

Because the reader is more of guy than girl. Tell me, which one will you choose to see in action? Guy or girl? Also the Voice Actor also is easy to had girl that a guy for the cost and time. The Anime and Manga artist also can fill the panel with beautiful face than macho. The merchandise will easy to sell with a girl figure than man especially the cost when the man need a weapon or complicated clothes but a girl with just few clothes like bikini is easy to make and cheap

 

The author is potentially projecting their insecurities or using the readers' own desires to make a wish-fulfillment "relatable" character that is deemed attractive by almost every person of the opposite sex.

Also fanservice for more clickbait and views.

 

easier to introduce romance subplot, fan service stuff like that~
then.... its mainstream...... go try against the mainstream~

here the question~ what on your mind when guys go together?
beat each other....
hehehe~

 

Whats the "~" do?

Is it a novelupdates formatting character? I know about URL= but i dont know how to use ~

 

nyothing~
ignore it~

 

It's primarily because you're reading books intended for Japanese otaku. This demographic loves cute girls so you're going to see them everywhere. If you're looking for sausage fests then just check out material meant for other demographics. Note that this means staying away from Syosetu because that site is all otaku all the time.

 

There are plenty of novels with bros, even harem novels, even on Syosetsu. Even on R-18 novels, come to think of it. Just friends that the main character hangs out with from time to time.

It's just that, hm... they distract from the whole "I'm the best" mediocre/bad novel shtick that is very common. It's much simpler to replace the friend characters with harem members because cute girls can be incompetent without people wondering why the author keeps them around, but when male characters are always incompetent or need to be saved at the last minute people get more upset at that character. So, writers making mediocre novels will tend to avoid them to focus more of the coolness on one person.

Now, since you're saying there are no novels at all that are like what you're looking for... no, you're just not seeing it because the mediocre novels tend to be easier for all the mtl groups to milk, and they tend to have faster releases, so it's much harder to find good novels in general.

 

It just indicates a lilt in the voice~ :3

 

novels with just bros or a token girl for representation risk running into the very thing you pointed out: the perils and connotations of fujoshi bait. the best option for good male friendships is a good mix of male and female characters which can avert the specter of being seen as fujo bait.

As Fluffums said, it's not that novels with good male characters and friendships (that dont smell of fujo bait) dont exist. It's just the matter of finding them among all the chaff.

 

I only was given one suggestion lol

 

Take out the romance genre

 

I think this is a symptom of the larger issue that many LN/WNs overly focus on the MC at the expense of side character development. It's easier to get the audience to care about a female cardboard cutout than a male cardboard cutout.

Series where the side characters get to be actual characters that contribute to the plot in ways that make them feel like more than just an extension of the MC / not just a glorified cheerleader tend to have a mix of important male/female characters that journey/work with the MC. The ratio may lean heavily in one direction or another, of course.

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As for what you're specifically looking for, a team-of-bros type of story tends to have a core protagonist group rather than a specific MC (even if one of the characters is a bit more prominent), and that kind of set-up seems to be pretty rare for LN/WNs in general.

 

Daily life of highschool boys - manga
Grand blue - manga
Baka to test - novel
86 - novel
Owari no chronicle - novel
legend of sun knight - novel, cn, but quite different from the usual cn stuff
durarararararararara - novel
baccano! - novel
fullmetal alchemist - manga, there is a novel but no idea about it
Hyouka - novel
Hataraku Maou sama - novel
Re:zero - novel
Toaru series - novel
Mushoku Tensei - novel

Some of the series line up way better than others with the "full bro party" idea but all of them have prominent bro characters

 

As a male reader, do you like these male MCs? No, right? Nobody would like to party with men like that. The only reason why female adventurers party with the MC is because they're even weaker than the MC. The only reason why the MC looks smarter than the other male characters, is because the author is projecting his own insecurities to the MC so they can't be better than him. However, in a hypothetical magic filled setting, it would be freaking rare to have a strong female characters or a successful Beta Cuck adventurer.

 

honestly even if people take out the romance genre a novel like "The Novels Extra" will show up.

I've read up to chapter 60 and couldn't handle it anymore, just dropped it after seeing the hidden harem forming behind the MCs back. The main girl having that immense potential but will always have to get saved from the MC. The author completely making her seem to be weak when she isnt. It's so rare to find badass female characters in novels that the author wouldn't tone down their potential. A great example being Fire Force, that sh*t made me go ballistic, the girl is so useful but she's literally just there for fanservice, even almost killed a person by being such a damsel of distress, constantly getting groped around everywhere and with such a great power like that? The author is simply wasting it, and don't even give me that "lucky lecher" excuse. It isn't even valid.

The only novels I did find with great, badass female characters and the MC hanging around with their bros constantly might be Omniscient Readers Viewpoint and Trash of the Counts Family. But pretty much 70% of the novel community knows these two novels. And these two has such huge fujobait I find it funny but didn't really mind as someone who reads BL sometimes.

 

I love Ryo‘s and Abel’s banter that they do sometimes xd