Spoiler Clearing an Isekai with the Zero-Believers Goddess Spoilers

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  1. whowne

    whowne Active Member

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    I wonder if the talk Noah had with Naia earlier will impact the story. I'm a bit surprised that Makoto did not hear from Ira or Noah after he had left the room though. Can Nevia block the gods out of the whole castle?
     
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    Now, what adventure could possibly Noel and Makoto will have? I'm excited.

    Please, don't NTR Sakurai ffs
     
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    mel-san could have already told the girls about anna but he didn't

    unless she feels abandoned because makoto didn't tell her that he was fine and that iblis is dead then she would say it to make the girls punish makoto

    Neither has Momo said something about Anna to the other girls, I suppose she wants to make up for lost time and will avoid mentioning a new infidelity because if they do, the girls will prevent makoto from seeing her

    now who has to be careful that he finds out is from Noel

    I doubt that he continues to admire makoto or respect him after knowing that he was the one who left anna alone

    Let's remember that she hated that part of the story and it must also influence a lot that she has to share Sakurai with 30 women

    [QUOTE = "whowne, post: 6751035, member: 405688"] Me pregunto si la conversación que tuvo Noah con Naia antes afectará la historia. Sin embargo, estoy un poco sorprendido de que Makoto no haya tenido noticias de Ira o Noah después de que salió de la habitación. ¿Puede Nevia bloquear a los dioses de todo el castillo? [/ QUOTE]


    It should not be difficult to create a barrier that I blocked Noah's voice since being sealed is weak

    let's remember that momo did it when he went to talk to makoto after he took care of the dragons tabu

    now what surprises me is that he could cut communications with high ranking goddesses like ira-chan and eir

    I guess the moon goddess could have helped
    or
    It may be that they took the necklace from makoto with which he used to talk to ira-chan
     
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    Tsui is really suspicious. Why was he not charmed by Nevia ? Nevia rewrote the barrier so she can charm everyone imside the barrier.
     
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    So i was wrong when i said Nevia could accidentally fell in love with Makoto due to shared memories. It's actually cooler this way somehow though.

    Also in the latest chapter i kinda disliked how Makoto was rescued instead of breaking out himself. It was a great oppurtunity for him to shine but Tsui did instead (even if i keep forgetting him...)

    I wonder how someone is hypnotized while being aware of being hypnotized. I mean they act normal except for some key points. I wonder what they were doing outside of the room.

    My biggest question is if Anna will come back in this chapter or the afterstories? I forgot if i saw in the afterwords of a priveous chapter or someone's comment but they mentioned her returning in the afterstories so i'm really curious about that one

    It's kinda sad that Great demon lord died off-screen.

    Maybe he got used to Furiae's fascination? Or maybe he was already fascinated by Furiae so he couldn't be double fascinated?
    Or what if Tsui is actually the Moon Goddess? (It would be pretty cool honestly)
     
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  6. whowne

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    Has the author said something about wrapping up the story in this year recently? That would be 4-5 chapters and I really hope for a nice and long end. I hope he does not rush it just to keep some deadline.
     
  7. SIXTRACK177

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    [QUOTE = "Gladiator02, publicación: 6751110, miembro: 305606"] Así que me equivoqué cuando dije que Nevia podría enamorarse accidentalmente de Makoto debido a los recuerdos compartidos. Sin embargo, en realidad es más genial de esta manera.

    También en el último capítulo me disgustó un poco cómo Makoto fue rescatado en lugar de escapar él mismo. Fue una gran oportunidad para él brillar, pero Tsui lo hizo en su lugar (incluso si sigo olvidándolo ...)

    Me pregunto cómo se hipnotiza a alguien mientras se da cuenta de que está hipnotizado. Quiero decir que actúan con normalidad excepto por algunos puntos clave. Me pregunto qué estarían haciendo fuera de la habitación.

    Mi mayor pregunta es si Anna volverá en este capítulo o en las posteriores. Olvidé si vi en las palabras posteriores de un capítulo privado o en el comentario de alguien, pero mencionaron su regreso en las historias posteriores, así que tengo mucha curiosidad por eso.

    Es un poco triste que el Gran Señor de los Demonios muriera fuera de la pantalla.


    ¿Quizás se acostumbró a la fascinación de Furiae? ¿O tal vez ya estaba fascinado por Furiae por lo que no podía estar doblemente fascinado?
    ¿O qué pasa si Tsui es en realidad la Diosa de la Luna? (Sería genial, honestamente) [/ QUOTE]

    rather I think that Nevia ignored Tsui since it did not seem important to her at the time

    planning a perfect way to kill or incapacitate Sakurai was more important to her than to fixate on a cat


    well makoto definitely needed the help of his family member to escape nevia thought of everything to lock up makoto and not have problems

    If Tsui hadn't gone I doubt that Makoto would go out alone

    It is sad the truth that iblis died off screen but that means that if makoto and noel arrive in Astaroth now he will have to obey makoto yes or yes

    So the problem of the demons lord is solved
    if they manage to escape

    if the goddess of the moon like the other goddesses should have subordinates as she is an exterior goddess she may not have angels but if little beasts like tsui that do their job

    No sería extraño que ya se estuviera divirtiendo con la fusión de nevia y furiae

    pero creo que se aburriría ahora que makoto escapó, así que quiere vigilarlo.


    Aun así, creo que el encanto que tienen Lucy Sofía y aya es diferente al que tienen los demás habitantes.

    Nevia le dio la libertad de hacerles saber que están encantados y que conservan su personalidad para mantener la calma de Makoto.


    ahora aqui tengo una duda bastante grande

    exactamente que hace nevia con furia durante el dia

    Recuerda que solo necesitas dar un discurso por la mañana para mantener tu control sobre los habitantes pero qué hace el resto del día que es realmente sospechoso también tu tristeza es bastante pequeña si iblis muriera


    Si el amor que nevia sentía por iblis es similar al que furiae siente por makoto, la bruja de la calamidad tendría que estar deprimida.

    Could it not be that he tries to revive the god since he possesses the body of the past and that of the present?

    i also doubt nevia will ever really bond with fury and develop feelings for makoto

    she said it herself they will have to share the body

    even though he makes fun of makoto and tells him to attack furiae he asked me what would happen if makoto really tries to do something with furiae

    I doubt that Nevia likes to be kissed by Makoto

    much less that nevia has to be in the body of furiae if makoto comes to attack her and furiae does not resist
     
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  8. BTungsteno

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    Nop, so far he's still in his "i will finish the main story before 2022" , so unless he does a new arc in the form of "clearing an isekai... the secuel" then we're about to witness a speedrunning of the story

    Maybe he's possesed by some entity like you said Gladiator02?
    Or maybe Furiae was able to exclude him from the "charm everyone inside the barrier rule" so he could help Makoto

    Edit:
    Also i think since vol.1 that we don't witness such a helpless Makoto, the necklace gone (probably Lucy and Sa-san told Nevia about it), the Dagger was stashed away and the barrier around the room was able to truly weaken spirits.

    Tsui such a mvp this chapter
     
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    I think Nevia was prepared that Iblis would die. So she just wants to fulfill his will by turning the world to their vision. (Or maybe she wants to somehow revive him because his death was inevitible but that probably won't happen.)

    Astaroth card is truly broken now though lol. He is close to the Great Demon Lord in terms of power levels. And the opponent can't kill anyone. Makoto and Astaroth tag team (and Sakurai if Makoto saves him) is just so powerful that i can't have low expectations lol.

    I doubt Nevia ignored Tsui though. She has Furiae's memories so she should know about his abilities. The cat is the Nightcrawler (Marvel) of the web-novel. If she did forget about him that's a big mistake though. If she's a familiar of the Moon Goddess or something along those lines, that's one big mistake lol

    I think Tsui is either Moon Goddess or one of her familiars. (But idk if a Goddess's pride would allow them to call anyone “master” in any situation so she could be a familiar of her) I'm personally hoping for the Goddess herself

    Also if anyone here is familiar with the series Tsui now starts to remind me of Celine from Trails of Cold Steel. You know black cat familiar who is actually a familiar of someone else but helps protagonist in their need
     
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    Super-fan of that saga, yeah would be hilarious if Tsui have a second form.
    Maybe Furiae blocked/messed with her memories so Nevia couldn't see him? Being a familar of Naia like you said sound interesting, time to wait until next chapter to know the true
     
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    Perhaps, Nevia thought that Tsui was charmed, so she didn't bother to pay more attention to him ?
     
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    [QUOTE = "Slayer66, post: 6751146, member: 305172"] ¿Quizás, Nevia pensó que Tsui estaba encantado, así que no se molestó en prestarle más atención? [/ QUOTE]


    possibly that's that tsui was originally enchanted by makoto's 4th charm

    nevia has the best enchantment on the continent if not in the world

    furiae has said that the blessing of the goddess of the Moon makes people love each other whether they want it or not

    It is possible that she thought that her family member could not resist being around her and that is why she did not pay attention to her

    It is also possible that Tsui was hiding from Nevia before she completely took control of Fury.

    a nevia that completely controls furiae would not have let tsui go to see makoto even for food

    [QUOTE = "Gladiator02, publicación: 6751141, miembro: 305606"]

    La tarjeta de Astaroth está realmente rota ahora, aunque lol. Está cerca del Gran Señor Demonio en términos de niveles de poder. Y el oponente no puede matar a nadie. El equipo de etiqueta de Makoto y Astaroth (y Sakurai si Makoto lo salva) es tan poderoso que no puedo tener expectativas bajas jajaja.

    CITA]

    even if it is his trump card to bring Astaroth to fight against the other demon lords

    I think it will not be so easy for makoto to escape from the country of the sun now that everyone is delighted and they are zombies from nevia

    although that fits perfectly into the philosophy of makoto

    "the more difficult the better the reward will be"

    i guess makoto is going to be mad that an escort mission just shows up at such an important time

    he has to rescue noel yes or yes
    i literally don't know if furiae is strong enough to stop nevia from killing noel if makoto leaves

    and for him to escape it is going to be difficult I imagine that taking her to the location of Astaroth on the other continent without teleportation will be almost impossible

    also the next chapter will start with all the heroes and lucy with aya looking for makoto who escaped

    I do not know if it is easy for him to move with a non-combatant like Noel without spiritual magic
     
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    And it can get worst if Lucy's mother also get charmed, through she probably is having fun in hell or walking in the moon.

    Hopefully once Makoto get outside of the building/capital that is using that weakening spirit barrier, he would showcase his 1010years water skill in a non-boss battle and/or by rescuing Momo from Nerfed Bifrons.

    Theory: Makoto ends making a party with Noel,Rosalie,Mel-san and Momo to defeat Nevia and kill the demon lords

    edit: And maybe while dealing with that spirit barrier Makoto could learn the basics of how to destroy or make a hole in Neptune spirit barrier
     
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    this chapter was lame nothing happen at all i'm dissapointed iblis is dead but not surpised since author seems to love to kill off important characters off screen. i also really hope noel and anna don't share a body even worse noel falls for makoto during their journey together i rather anna comes back with her own body
     
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    Bruh, be patient motherfucker
     
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    CITA]
    [QUOTE = "BTungsteno, publicación: 6751360, miembro: 371189"] Y puede empeorar si la madre de Lucy también se encanta, porque probablemente se esté divirtiendo en el infierno o caminando en la luna.

    Con suerte, una vez que Makoto salga del edificio / capital que está usando esa barrera espiritual debilitada, mostraría su habilidad de agua de 1010 años en una batalla sin jefes y / o rescatando a Momo de Nerfed Bifrons.

    Teoría: Makoto termina haciendo una fiesta con Noel, Rosalie, Mel-san y Momo para derrotar a Nevia y matar a los señores demonios.

    editar: Y tal vez mientras lidia con esa barrera espiritual, Makoto podría aprender los conceptos básicos de cómo destruir o hacer un agujero en la barrera espiritual de Neptuno [/ QUOTE]

    I doubt that Momo is in the group and also Lucy's mother

    first because Momo can resist the charm of nevia but not the voice of the vampire king

    Lucy's mother is probably missing on the moon or making Lucy a little brother with some demon

    mel-san has already proven resistant to nevia's enchantment

    so it's probably a group of noel, makoto and mel-san

    I think if makoto and noel who have hardly ever spoken alone start talking now makoto more and more will realize that they only look alike noel and Anna

    It could also be that he says what happened to Anna and what was the promise they made

    Also if everything goes well I hope Mako-kun keeps Astaroth's letter until they defeat Nevia

    Although noel does not want to, after they are released from mind control, all countries will want to destroy the country of the moon and furiae

    I imagine they will consider it the nevia 2.0

    and makoto then he will have to decide whether to be the iblis 2.0 to continue protecting his lover

    so a good letter would be that after defeating nevia an army appears to destroy the country of the moon and suddenly makoto appears on the head of Astaroth as Naruto in the fight against pain

    to declare war on the world and take the position of demon king
     
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    man this sound really badass i like it i just hope noel useless ass doesn't join the harem i want anna to come back i also hope they don't have to share a body let anna have her own body. it's very likely we will get a fight between makoto and sakurai and everyone will finally see that makoto is stronger and i think after all this is done makoto really will be the next great demon lord and after this arc makoto will need to power up and face leviathan and free noah then her plans should be revealed and if her plan really is war against the holy gods makoto will need to become a god to help her. i still think iblis is alive tho and that he will be beat by makoto in secret and only ira noah and is harem will know.​
     
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    [QUOTE = "el emperador dragón rojo, publicación: 6752128, miembro: 409424"] hombre, este sonido es realmente rudo, me gusta, solo espero que noel, el inútil culo no se una al harén, quiero que anna vuelva, también espero que no lo hagan. t tengo que compartir un cuerpo, deja que anna tenga su propio cuerpo. eso 'Es muy probable que tengamos una pelea entre makoto y sakurai y todos finalmente verán que makoto es más fuerte y creo que después de todo esto, makoto realmente será el próximo gran señor demonio y después de este arco makoto tendrá que encenderse y enfrentarse. leviatán y noah libre, entonces sus planes deberían ser revelados y si su plan realmente es la guerra contra los dioses santos, makoto tendrá que convertirse en un dios para ayudarla. Aunque todavía creo que iblis está vivo y que makoto lo golpeará en secreto y que solo ira noah y su harén lo sabrán. [/ CITA]

    Anna es técnicamente un ángel de raza mixta

    Creo que podría pasar lo mismo que pasó al final de Hércules donde el manto que tenía sangre de centauro quemó la parte mortal y solo quedó la parte de dios.


    Quizás anna logró separarse de su parte humana que era abel ya que definitivamente se identifica como mujer y ya no como un ser con ambos sexos.

    y ascendió al cielo para estar con la especie de su madre

    y luego volver para quedarse con makoto como su madre con el padre de anna

    Si vas al Twitter del autor y ves los comentarios, todos dicen lo mismo

    Ruta NTR con la esposa de su mejor amigo

    Sinceramente dudo que Anna quiera compartir cuerpos con alguien que esté casado con otra persona y más aún para que Noel quiera dejar que Anna tenga su cuerpo para que ella pueda coquetear con Makoto.

    así que veo esa teoría como la más precisa para que Anna regrese con makoto

    aunque deja sin respuesta quien es quien inició la cadena de descendencia de la familia real

    También me preguntó qué va a pensar Anna cuando vea que Makoto está en una especie de triple relación con su enemigo en este momento.

    por ejemplo si makoto besa furiae
    está besando a furiae y nevia al mismo tiempo

    o

    solo furia y nevia ignora el beso

    Honestamente, en este momento sería muy divertido si makoto fuera capturado nuevamente con Anna, quien de alguna manera tiene un cuerpo diferente al de Noel.

    luego nevia toma el control del cuerpo y pone furiae en el espejo por un momento para ocupar ese contacto seductor que tienen los oráculos de la luna para hacer latir el corazón de makoto

    then makoto would suddenly have to endure being seen with cold eyes by 2 holy maidens at the same time

    Sabemos que entre las chicas, Furiae es la que menos tiempo ha tenido una relación con Mako-kun, pero ya se ha vuelto tan posesiva como las otras chicas.

    y Anna parece hacer pucheros cuando Makoto piensa en otras chicas, pero verlo coquetear con su enemigo puede despertar la sangre Yandere que hereda de Noel.
    jajaja


    cómo dije antes lo que iblis significaba para nevia ella está muy animada encantando a los otros personajes

    si lo quisiera de todos modos que furiae quiere makoto
    nevia estaba en depresión

    Tampoco se dice que incapacitó a sakurai pero no lo mató.

    Significa que quiere revivir a iblis con la magia de furiae y ponerlo en el cuerpo de sakurai o está planeando algo diferente.


    Aún así, definitivamente quiero saber qué pensaría anna cuando se enterara de que makoto la volverá a ver, pero se encontrará con makoto disfrutando de un harén que incluye un enemigo moral dentro del cuerpo de uno de sus amantes mientras se llama demonio. Rey

    imagino que anna sería del tipo yadere que le pediría a olga la espada para purgar a ese hombre pecador que fue a coquetear con diferentes mujeres mientras ella lo esperaba pacientemente
    jajaja
     
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    i been wondering if makoto will ever use the great wind spirit since he has sun magic.
     
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    Wasn't needed Wind magic for using that Great Spirit?

    I think Makoto could use "Light spirit", during Vol.10 i think he talk with Ira-chan and when he started to talk about others spirits outside of Water,fire,wind,earth and the theory about dark and light spirits, Ira stop him telling him those are forbbiden by divine regulations and he should avoid use them or risk getting under watch by the angels/demons.
     
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