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  1. Eddy andres

    Eddy andres Well-Known Member

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    If you have more questions do not hesitate to ask them.

    1-very few differences, well because the light novel is only in physical English.

    2-only the novel web and the cousins that you can find when searching for the name in Japanese.

    3-Well, Van lost his grudge after he almost killed an innocent evil god due to circumstances similar to his own, and realized that even without knowing all the circumstances behind, he looked like a zombie movie monster, and that neither he himself would have doubted, although he does not regret having taken revenge on the scientists and if any of them try to kill him, he will kill them, but not if try to live their lives or fight against political and legal ways that do not affect people under office. narumi continued with his life, he did not find out the truth until many years later, and what he felt was sorrow for not thanking him and doubts for knowing why he sacrifices himself, although they will make things clear to him, and besides, none ever had feelings for the other, both had made their lives, she married with two children and they go with several fiancées, adopted children, stepchildren and even a biological child by magical means (a friend of hers who is a true dragon with a taste for reproduction tricked him into mixed her blood with a bone from her father and she ate it, becoming pregnant with a hybrid baby between her, Van and her own grandfather). he is also at peace with narumi's husband, the amamiya, relax, he did not replace him, it was a real confusion and the guy made it clear as soon as he met the others, his marriage with her is legitimate and although there have been some problems, both are still a stable couple. yes, they are sharing custody with Van(long story).

    4-yes, more or less 20 have died and gone to the other world and almost half of those are currently on his side and the rest want to be neutral, only 5 accepted the offer that robcorte gave to kill him, and 3 seek to neutralize him in a way pacifica using means to neutralize one of his most used powers that still do not appear, the fragments of the demon king, and the latter Van lets them work because that technology also suits him and he does not want to kill them either because although one is very annoying and Van more or less knows that he will do something stupid with that technology, the other two are reasonable people and Van out of consideration for them gives the idiot an opportunity (in the sense that after two deaths he still acts as if they were students) to think outside from your box.

    5. I would tell you that it is easier to say who is not, but you do not know who is not, of those who are now in the manga, narumi no, but if another of the reincarnated, if you see the first chapter appears, kanako . of those with a name, darcia, he wants with her, but she said no more because of the way he asked her than because of the fact of asking her, let's see, with the ghouls, with all the ones with a name, zadiris, basdia, bilde, Taria and kachia, also with bilde's and basdia's daughter. pauvina the living corpse that Vandeliu is taking care of, because she reincarnates in the baby, with whom Van is engaged (although it is in the second round of weddings when they grow up and in the case of pauvina, the ghoul girls and two others that they are in a similar situation is to protect them from suitors who go after them to reach Van who in the end has a lot of influence), the saint and the princesses that borkus mentioned, in the light novel in which Van turns the hand of the princess Zandia in an undead marries the hand and all the ones that come after are from future arcs, but I would say that the 20 passed a long time ago.

    6-Well, what can I tell you, he's at the same level as the vampire hunter who killed his mother, he's not even going to consider the moral implications, death, it's the least he's satisfied with, because in the long run, the guy has screwed him up in the future and screwed him up in the past even before he was born, he is unknowingly to blame for all the misfortune in Van's life for being irresponsible.

    7- The divine scale in this story is very peculiar, all the gods have unlimited potential, all are immortal and all can see their power reduced until they become mortal again. That is why neither the level of power nor the combat ability is used, only their origin and who created whom is usually taken into account. for example robcorte is the most powerful god of the novel presented formally, he handles reincarnation in several worlds and his raw power surpasses the great gods of lambda, who created this world, the evil ones or aliens, or even the gods of the earth and origins, which within their worlds have almost unlimited power but are restricted by the agromeration of each god, myth or idol thus had constant contradictions that makes them do nothing for the world. but with all that he can be defeated or at least taken down by any of the above due to having nothing but tremendous size and strength, no defenses, combat capabilities or even pain tolerance. In addition, he only manages a few dozen or hundreds of worlds, but there are many others with their reincarnation systems from small to large scale, he only looks for planets that do not yet have a god or their gods do not yet know how to make a system, and he puts them with the condition that it cannot interact with other systems. finally it is known that there are gods above, at least at the galactic or universal level, or even multiversal, perhaps even D of kumo desuga, but nobody, not even the most crazy, are interested in calling or looking for them, for the simple fact of who brings such a thing when we can't even resolve our internal conflicts?

    she is revived in the middle of the novel, Van uses the best of the best, blood of the goddess of life, magic eye of a purebred vampire, dragon bladder, indestructible skeleton and with that she becomes a elf of the chaos, a new race of immortal elves and with the ability to manipulate the body similar to that of kars in jojos bisarre adventure, also she is the progenitor and can convert other dark elves and normal elves to this race and to top it off not only training of some of the best warriors in the history of the life races (the equivalent of all demihumans, monster girls, and half-monsters in history), but also became the avatar of the goddess, which is the equivalent of her becoming merged with this and now darcia and she are a single being, darcia being one of his consciences independently (sounds strange, but there are rarer creatures in Van's group, including him). Well, about his mother, he has a very large mother complex, even above his Oedipus complex, he loves her as a mother, as if she were a goddess (which is taken ironically later) and eventually when the It was time for him to marry his fiancées, he asked her to marry him too, and they all agreed, in any case, he warned them from the beginning, they knew it, everyone knows it, even his enemies The only one who was surprised was Darcia who for the moment said no.

    Heinz is the most complicated target of revenge, he is not a tragic hero or a controlled hero, the story itself and Van question his title as a hero with the implications of what he did and did not do consciously, but they themselves admit that Heinz is not a bad person, on the contrary, he had very good intentions, but among friends who loved him so much that they did not want him to make his own decisions and get his hands dirty because according to them it was for his own good, to have his faith in a god that although he knows that his beliefs are wrong they refuse to change them (both heinz and god himself), that part of his success depends on the same people who want to change and therefore cannot go against them. there are many more factors, and something unfortunate about the ending is that we could not see heinz's last thoughts while being conscious, but he had a different destiny, be it mercy, irony, laziness or a type of torture, after killing him Vandeliu was different with him and that his soul went into the void, some world outside Lambda's reincarnation system, without powers, without allies but with infinite possibilities in his future lives. but in short, he was a good person, so good that he didn't want to step out of line in a world where he was needed due to thousands of years of stagnation.

    If you have more questions do not hesitate to ask them.
     
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  2. blindpig05

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    I really appreciate you take the time to answer me bro. Really, thank you!
    so manga and novel is pretty much the same huh? can i assume manga chapter 29 the equivalent novel chapter is pretty much chapter 29 or maybe more so about the range of chapter 29-35?
     
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    yes. the manga compresses several small chapters and details but yes. in general aspects they are almost identical to the web novel which in turn is 90% similar to the light novel.
     
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathMage/wiki/index/manga2wn

    Translated in Spanish, behind Paywall: https://novelasligeras.net/index.ph...-who-doesnt-want-a-fourth-time-novela-ligera/

    The LN is not translated in English. https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathMage/...here_can_i_read_the_light_novel_in_english.3F
    She was not saved, she died, remember? She is there among the cheat users.
    Nothing much happened, she married the other guy, had 2 children, that's about it. She is not an heroine of the story.
    Yes, 2 became his fiancées, although one of them is part of Legion, thus, a meat ball
    The story rolls slowly, meaning, there is hardly any time skip besides in a few points, thus romance is not part of the story. But it does in harem. A lot of girls that have not appeared in the manga included.
    Ate him
    It was isolated before he was eaten, so now the worlds previously under Rodcorte are learning to make their own systems with support from his Rodcorte's former Familiar Spirits, who were also reincarnators.

    If he doesn't do that, she won't get married ever again.

    She is revived under a new body created by Van using a Goddess Blood. She becomes a new ancestor race, starting the Chaos Elf race, so she is not a Dark Elf anymore. So yeah, she becomes somewhat Super Mom, and Van is a mothercon, and everybody knows that.

    The one biologically closest to Darcia's original body (essentially, Van's real biological mother) is Legion, which was created from the failed attempts of recreating Darcia's body.
    He regretted it from the start, which is why he moved to the enemy nation, essentially becoming a traitor in the Amid Empire. He tried to change things as a way for atoning to the mother he helped killing (he captured her, not anything else), and the Dhampir child who should have died without his mother. He later learned that the child survived, and midway the story they have a fight that ends in a stalemate, but he learns that he is a target that will not be forgiven in any way.

    He died by being used and betrayed by his God, who killed him as he was losing the last fight, hoping to use Rodcorte to reincarnate him over and over, until he defeats Van. Considering how his soul was completely shocked from the event, one could say that it was excessively brutal for Alda to remove his soul while still living.

    I think you should have gone to the Translated Chapters Thread https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/death-mage.91000/ . But considering you seem to already be asking about end of story questions, then I guess you won't get these answers there anyway.
     
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    Ah, new reader question, it's kinda nostalgic to read them :D

    And I still find funny how everyone and their mother asked at some point "but what about Naruse" only to be answered "What about Naruse?", because as how sorta important she is for Van's character development pre-reincarnation she serves absolutely no purpose to the story, hell, every reincarnator does for that matter until they met Van again, which is a point he made very early one in the story about not caring about them since they are pretty much strangers after almost 30 years of last seeing them (not counting the D-01 thing).

    Heinz questions were also something people asked and gave theories a lot, and discovering how he and Bellwood were... kinda pathetic and shallow about their ideals (something that Bellwood at least admited to) were definitely one the high points in the story.
     
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    OK anyone else questioning how
    1)a STEM student
    2)a liberal arts student
    3)an actor in the making
    4)a factory owner/manager

    thought they could just casually make a nuke in another world??

    And if they could transfer entire living people why didn't anyone consider transporting a few military tactics books as well....
     
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    IIRC the basics of a nuke are not supposed to be that complicated, more dependent on rare and controlled materials, and if the STEM is heavy on physics...

    Plus they weren't they using the concept as a basis, and magic for the mechanics?
     
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    in the end they only considered it, what they wanted to put into practice was the use of radioactive material and see if it interfered or was affected by magic, and it was something necessary in the long term, because lambda lacks oil(I forgot the electric magic, as an alternative, now I think like bellwood). about military books you can not bring matter, about why not ask the god about military practices, because zuruwan would not have thought so far and about why not choose someone with military experience, because there is the fault of zantark in particular and of all the gods in general that they chose by choice instead of logic, although thinking about it in depth, in those times the gods lived in the final stages of the stone age, and in a version without the need for conflicts between the tribes, only Occasional fights and disorganized fighting between man and beast did not develop most of the concepts we take for granted until the arrival of the champions.
     
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    They lived in Lambda for an unspecified amount of time, their aging was stopped by Vida at arrival (+system), it was said that Zakkart and pals reproduced stuff they knew about in Lambda, but they had to do it from scratch because of how physics are different there, so not everything came out the same, etc, etc. It's not that they got there and immediately started to pump out WMDs, they started investigating them when the war went for too long, and for the look of it they didn't advance really far into it before Gudu killed them or there would have been some prototypes in Zakkart lab.
     
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    So, just wanted to know if kanako is one of van's fiances by the end of it?
     
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    Yes, she confessed herself by Arc 13 just before Zadiris became a Guider.

    Later it was already being mentioned during Mei's arrival in Lambda as a fact that she was going to marry him, and how to tell the news to those from Origin (Amemiya), besides Ulrika and Mari being surprised by the fact once they migrated and learned of it.
     
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    Before the invasion of Demon King and tge arrival of champions.
    World of Lamda lacked concept of modern warfare or something related toward high-level progress.
    ***11 Great gods acted as counter-balanced between themselves.
    Guduranis destroyed the balanced and brough about the end.
    SO Lamda remaining Great gods summomed trangressores which suit their personality or closely related to them.
    The concept of modern world also inharit during that time and cause Great chance in the world of Lamda in both good and bad way.
    Bellwood who loved law and order at first, Cause Alda to find over him and absorb Bellwood unrealistic broken that never come True because He never thought about other. **SJW and Green terrorist mindset.
    Faumurn gold didn't think much Except fighting and challenge which made him Zantark's chosen. He gave the concept of travel and overcome the fence that different than eleven God. (In the past, human would challenge colosi, beasts, dragons as honor)
    Nineroad's concept is very few but We khew she is very stubborn and she gives concept of taming. Her action consider controversy and somehow defied the path of Alda.
    Which quite clear for someone who feel guilty but doesn't know how to atone or how to repaid it and only her stubborn path remain. (She set the stage for last civil war to end all the damned and tried to suicide attack Van)
    She is very tragic. Unlike other who had someone to please them or truely understand her. Her adopted father was killed, her was followed at first because she was his champion, She had tragic family or had none. (I'm not sure is Hartner family was her descendant through)
    Well, Bellwood was spoiled badly because of his New concept of right which totally harmful for the world of Lamda who lacked the concept of modern world (our world also suffer greatly by these concept).
    Faumurn Gold followed Bellwood because they've Best bud at fighting and receieved Sweet poison word.
    Nineroad is stubborn and did everything that she feel pleased which also mean the concept of Bellwood was better than Lamda concept. (SO Shizarian's concept of art couldn't sent toward her stubborn brain and made her failed to realised her own duty and God of wind and arts)
     
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    Any news for chapter 415?
    It's almost half of year without any update:blob_teary::blob_teary::blob_teary::blob_teary:
     
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    6 months without chapters, is this how it feels to be a reader of tsuki ga?
     
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    Can someone give spoiler about that as*hole Asagi please..
    Hope his die and eaten.

    Also spoiler about randolf guy...
     
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    Asagi spreads that Rodcorte is the culprit, thus Alda learns about his involvement besides Guduranis himself calling for the guy, however, Asagi's actions caused a bunch of Gods of Alda's faction involved in the event and their respective Hero Candidates to change sides to Vida's Faction along with Van. Asagi is not dead nor eaten.

    Randolph became a drummer in Champion Kanako's idol group.
     
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    Thank you..
    So is he still blockhead? That asagi...
    I dont know, i cant like his character, in real or fiction..

    ...... Wait, become a drummer ? Are you serious ? Which chapter...

    Thanks again.
     
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    He has had nearly 50 years of life, and stopped growing 30 years ago, why would you think he is going to stop being an idiot now?
     
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    Well, maybe some miracle open his head and gouge his brain so he stop being unreasonable idiot..
    What about his friend, ? Is they tell that his personality is problem...
     
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    He does try to pull and isekai MC move (do something dumb with the power of friendship and expect no concequenses out of it) and gets called on immediately for doing so and how much of a dick move it was. Namely, sending Van a letter demanding to tell him the plans of his empire and and their defenses. The answer to the letter is kind more hilarious than a simple no, first, he got imprisoned by the noble he was livign with for sending such a rude request to an allied emperor of the strongest empire in the world, puttig said alliance in danger, then he got scolded by his nannies friends for doing something so reckless and trying to go directly to Vidal (Van's empire) after leaving a damn note, then he got a reply that simply told him "you aren't a diplomat or a member of my epire to know those things, if you continue to antagonize me, I will just kill you, so your friends better keep an eye on you".

    For that matter he send something similar to the dhampir girl that was traveling with Ketchup Man, "stop trying to befriend me, your buddy sent my mom to be executed, the only thing we have in common is that we are the same species (kinda), I will kill you buddy and his murderer friends, that's all".

    Also Randolf, after big spoilery battle (not the final one), just officialy quitted being an Adventurer, became a part time teacher for his not-girlfriend's school, and started touring with Kanako (Entertainment Guider) around the allied world after rediscovering his love for music, all in all he got a pretty sweet gig.