Discussion suppose that the car driven by autopilot hit people, who is at fault?

is the driver absolved of any fault?

 

i think the company that make the car or the program that held responsibility..

 

Depends on which country and which state you are in.

I think the driver is still liable in most cases since the driver still owns the car.

 

Not sure which caused the accident. It can be the fault of the one who got hit, the car, the car owners, or no one has a fault.

 

Well if you ask Elon Musk, he'll say it's the driver's fault. I believe there's a legal disclaimer somewhere in each Tesla that says drivers should be fully alert at the wheel. I think somebody died because he was in the backseat and the car hit a tree. And he brought his friend along for the ride, and he died too. I blame the owner.

 

Depends on level of autonomy, I think that for lower level self-driving cars, they require a human driver to supervise, so if the crash happens, it's the driver's fault.

I think if it's just a malfunction of a fully autonomous car or something, it's the driver's fault.

 

Skynet's fault.

 

by that logic, since the self driving mechanism is owned by the company and provided as a service, then it's the company's fault because the company drives it?

 

Politicians would say it's Russian fault...

 

It's the fault of the government for allowing unsafe technology to be used.

 

If I was the car company I would've made the owner sign a waiver. Like without complete systems in place (like relative to other cars - I don't know what I'm even trying to say) there should be a considerable amount of uncertainty no? If the car company is completely confident though, then it is possible that they take all the blame~ or idek

 

Thats why i said, it depends on where you are.
Googled some articles and some states fully blames the manufacturer and some will still blame the driver who drove the car.
Different states/country, different rules.

Since my country isnt very "AI" friendly and isnt eletric car worthy, law will still blame the driver first and if he can prove that the car was faulty in the first place then law will still blame both of them.

 

Most of the cases it's the driver, since almost no car is fully autonomous so drivers are supposed to have their hands on the wheel ready to take over at a split second. If you want one of the first deaths there's Elaine Hezerberg who was killed by one of Uber's semi-autonomous cars. The safety driver was Rafaela Vasquez. In that case Vasquez was charged with negligent homicide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg

The only fully autonomous cars that I know only drive limited routes and are basically taxi services on those routes. I think there's around 1,400 in the US atm. Waymo drives a handful of streets in Phoenix for example. I've never heard that one of them has been in a major crash.

If lawmakers don't make laws on it then judges will have to settle it since there's already lawsuits. I think about half the US states have some variety of laws on the books about it.

Here in Canada only Ontario allows it for testing with roughly 10 vehicles, and semi-autonomous ones like Tesla it's the drivers responsibility.

 

Here's an article about people being charged for manslaughter because they weren't paying attention, and the autopilot driven car resulted in fatalities.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/18/1073...anslaughter against,killed two people in 2019.

 

i thought autopilot is there so driver can be free to do smth else.

 

That's the end goal, but so far no one's really made it. There's those 1400 vehicles but they are extremely limited in what they can do.

Tesla's doesn't claim their Autopilot lets you do something else...how many Tesla owners really understand that is questionable.

 

Depends on your country's jurisprudence. In mine they haven't reached a consensus about whose fault it is. Would it be the driver's, the developper's, the programmer who made the car's algorythm or the company's fault?

 

Some would say it’s there dads fault for never coming back

 

I just noticed that the New York Times released today a 74 minute documentary about Elon Musk and Tesla's Autopilot. I have no plans to watch it but from what I read it's pretty negative and covers a lot of crashes and stuff. It's on FX and Hulu for those interested, and likely available 'elsewhere', it's called "Elon Musk's Crash Course".

It was likely filmed late last year or early this year so won't be entirely up to date.

 

I don't think auto drive without a human behind the wheel is still not legally allowed.

Most probably the gov or the company needs to take the blame and compensate...