Help me make a PC!

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  1. Shigune88

    Shigune88 Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys i barely know anything about building PCs but i want a very good one.

    My budget is around ~ 1800 euro.
    I prefer to have a Geforce GTX 1080 and a Intel I7 6700 processor.
    But besides that i barely know anything regarding building a PC.

    Soo can anyone help fill in the other components?

    Its meant for full 1920x1080 MMORPG on max settings. Since my old setup can barely hold lowest-medium with 30fps
     
  2. SirKulinski

    SirKulinski Well-Known Member

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    You know.. There are plenty DOI computer build sites, also no doubt unless you live outside of the "western world" you'd have a PC specialist that builds decent PC's or you can order one... Or quickly google your rough requirements / scroll PC building forums.
     
  3. lygarx

    lygarx Lazy Translator

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    all you really need now is a mother board that is compatible. Not sure if the site I shop from ships to Europe but now is the best time to shop. since it is approaching november deals
     
  4. kevmasterzoc

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    since you already chosen your processor and graphics card, there isnt much else besides getting compatible parts and a decent amount of RAM and maybe a SSD hard drive
     
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    I think this's a good pc for your budget
     
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    Gtx1080 and i7 6700 should be overkill for 1080p mmorpgs. Are you sure you want to spend that much on those components and not other components (ie monitor, keyboard and mouse)?
    Other questions you might want to ask yourself are what games will you be running and will you be overclocking anything (probably won't).
     
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    Lets say Black Desert during a raid with ~ 100 people fighting and spamming skills.
     
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    Shigune88 Well-Known Member

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    If its correct you could also let the company pay for it so you can distract the tax from it. Atleast in my country.
     
  14. Dragn555

    Dragn555 Writer of Unnecessary Essays

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    I don't know a lot about building PCs, but as far as I know, your chosen parts are overkill for MMOs. Those are Witcher 3 level parts.

    I recommend getting an i5 instead of an i7, as the difference in performance is negligible. It's also just way cheaper.

    A geforce 1080 is WAY too much unless you have a 4k monitor or something. At least knock it down to a 1070 if you really want overkill, with the lowest you can go probably being 950 (and maybe even lower).

    Use these subreddits for help:
    https://m.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme
    https://m.reddit.com/r/buildapc

    I also found basically the same thread on reddit. Coincedence? Very suspiciously so.
    https://m.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme/comments/58c1at/gaming_rig_for_1800/
     
  15. Shigune88

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    hehe not me tho :)
     
  16. novalance

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    Which MMORPG...? If its warcraft pretty sure you can get away with even less in your specs since it is still using a dated engine.

    The most important thing for gaming these days is the video card more than processor, most games use graphic acceleration GPUs than putting load on the processor. If your planning to use SLi, be aware of what kind of motherboard you buy and how many cards your planning to link with, especially the other PCIe slots and what bus they really are. Like you might see something with PCIe 3.0 16x(4x) marked down, this means it has a 16x compatible connector, but it is only running a 4x speed PCIe bus. Ideally you want them both to be the same running at 8x. For example motherboards like the two listed here under expansion slots list them differently due to their capability.

    https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/H170-PRO-GAMING/specifications/
    1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16
    1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black)

    https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z170-PRO-GAMING-AURA/specifications/
    2 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (Single at x16, dual at x8/x8)

    If you get or are using SLi or crossfire automatically you want to get a 1KW power supply or above as a safety precaution. Personally, I have had good success with Corsair power supplies. They can be more expensive, but they have lasted the longest for me. I feel they have better overload tolerances as well, not that you should... As a best practice you should always go over you're requirements by 30-40% for power. Gaming PCs tend to go higher with more video cards, on average each card adds about 70-90W of load for high end cards and peak loads can get a bit hairy on the power supply so having that 30-40% buffer adds a comfortable safety margin.

    Memory, not much of a focus really... As long as its dual mode and is matching the maximum supported BUS speed. This is going to depend on the motherboard you decide to use. You could get really anal with looking at cache latency and all that but the memory gets WAY more expensive with I feel is very little gain for what you pay.

    http://ark.intel.com/#@Chipsets

    Here is the intel list of chipsets and their specifications. Mostly this kind of stuff is if your looking into SLi and Crossfire... But its good to have non the less. What you are focused on is maximum PCIe lanes, configuration, and supported processor PCIe Port configurations for SLi. If you don't care about SLi/Crossfire, then pretty much just pick any of the 170 series will support single channel 16x cards with no problems as well as support the fastest clocked memory available.

    Hard drive, you may want to look into having dual SSDs running in RAID 0(Striped mode) if you are after a little more performance on that side. SSDs are fast but it doesn't hurt to get a little more performance out of it if you can afford it, with dual hard drives doing the seeking. You can get just two inexpensive SDDs for like $200(not sure on Euro conversion), and stripe them instead of getting one big one.
     
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    The options come with price tags. : )
    To get those options, you're stuck looking at prices that can be better used to describe decent late-model used cars.

    Several of the things I like about workstation-class 'laptops': you have the if-you-really-need-to portability of a laptop, and the computing power and repairability of a desktop.

    That said - dropping down to an i5 is a good idea. Unless you plan on running any virtualization software, you'll just never use the extra threads.
     
  18. emptycube

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    Looks like Black Desert is poorly optimized even though it's a modern game.

    I would go with an i5-6500 (6600k if you want to try overclocking) and GTX 1070.
    Get 16GB RAM. Speed and the config (2x8 or 4x4) will not significantly affect your performance.
    As for a motherboard, get any compatible motherboard from a decent brand that fits your criteria (ports, fan headers, overclocking performance if you get the 6600k, i5 6500 does not overclock.)
    If you don't need a lot of storage, get a 240+ GB SSD (usually 480GB) since this should improve load times and will have the most noticeable improvements to daily tasks.
    As for the power supply 500W+ 80+ gold, modular if you want a cleaner look.

    An example: http://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/tBhV4C
    This is assuming you are not overclocking and red and black build.

    Edit: Fixed a few things and edited the list for real black and red build. There are arguably better options than the ones on the list (I just chose ones for that matched the color scheme).
     
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  19. AnonyMouse0007

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    I spent a lot of time researching my own dream desktop pc and figured out that this is not a overnight or one weekend project. I would take the time to learn and not just dump alot of money into it all at once. You should research prices, parts, individual parts compatibility, and building, before you buy. 1800 Eros sitting in a closet or the project goes over budget isn't a good idea.

    I also came to the realization that a refurbished pc with decent component specs would do just fine and is suprisingly cheap and with less maintenance for my needs. (I don't even have to find new drivers this way. I just go to the manufacture website.)

    Good Luck
     
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  20. Clozdark

    Clozdark "Kuma chan \(≧◡≦)/ "「airhead」「nonsense speaker]

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    8gb+ ram
    watercooler
    1 tera memory
    don't forget that