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  2. Donutmindme
    Donutmindme
    I recently talked to my school nurse and found out that the school district is actually helping getting my new hearing aids. \o/
    Mar 8, 2018
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  3. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    but yea kat, we do have programs in place to financially help students for various fields. I wouldn't say the system is inherently broken, but just under lots of pressure with various parts of the system bearing a greater load than the others
    Mar 8, 2018
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  4. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    You need aids to get that in the US? Really makes one depressed thinking about it..
    Mar 8, 2018
  5. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    damn.. you must live in a nice area donut XD
    Mar 8, 2018
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  6. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Man the US just sounds awful if you can't be middle class at least. I hope you guys think about sending your kids to Europe in the future.
    Mar 8, 2018
  7. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Seriously it's freaking ironic, sending your kid to study in Paris would probably cost you less than a university in America.
    Mar 8, 2018
  8. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    well that's what happens when your system hasn't been demolished to the ground at some point : instead of fixing problems from the stem, we partially fix it while bandaging most of it to save money *shrug* it's human nature. Humans tend to not fix things until they're broken, then overcompensate afterwards.
    Mar 8, 2018
  9. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    you'd be better off starting your own burger place...
    Mar 8, 2018
  10. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    well that's honestly what made America such a great place awhile ago.... Such a huge chunk of the population were middle class, so you could easily afford poor relief. But nowadays, the middle class has effectively been thinned out like a starving horse. We may still have people who think they're middle class, but their comparative income/living standards are more similar to lower middle class from years past...
    Mar 8, 2018
  11. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Yeah it's like new york I guess, they just keep repairing old buildings on the verge of crumbling.
    Mar 8, 2018
  12. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Even your middle class from before wasn't in as much peace as Europeans anyway so it still sucked.
    Mar 8, 2018
  13. Donutmindme
    Donutmindme
    *gasp* @Katsono I need the hearing aids because I’m deaf in my leaft ear....
    Mar 8, 2018
  14. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Yeah but any poor guy would be able to afford hearing aids here? And you need to actually seek help from some association or something.... What about other people then? Or poorer people?
    Mar 8, 2018
  15. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    well back then, various things hadn't become full fledged problems yet. Insurance companies and medical service industries hadn't started getting into their fight (for example insurance companies refuse to pay the majority of the cost, so service industries charge 300% just so they have a chance of seeing a % of the money they need).
    Mar 8, 2018
  16. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    They were merely tiny cracks in the foundation that simply weren't fixed over time, and given to us, the new generation, as a fully blown problem because of their stop-gap measures
    Mar 8, 2018
  17. Donutmindme
    Donutmindme
    The insurance company said I had to WAIT five years for new ones...>.>
    Mar 8, 2018
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  18. Donutmindme
    Donutmindme
    So the school district is jus speeding up that process.
    Mar 8, 2018
  19. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Yeah but you guys never had principles like free education, state healthcare, etc. It doesn't matter that it was good for a while, it was only good because your country had money not because your country was great, otherwise it wouldn't have gotten this bad.
    Mar 8, 2018
  20. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    and then the insurance company declares bank bankruptcy and needs a bailout
    Mar 8, 2018
  21. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    And this just shows that this selfish thinking leads nowhere.
    Mar 8, 2018
  22. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    @Dountmindme still a problem cuz you'd just get it right away here and be done with it?
    Mar 8, 2018
  23. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    @Katsono it's not that we didn't have them... we were working towards it but every time we started to try, we'd be called communists *shrug* people are very proud of their ignorance in the rural areas...
    Mar 8, 2018
  24. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Well the disparity in education in the US itself is a failure in the foundations of the country.
    Mar 8, 2018
  25. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Tho honestly I don't believe in any kind of universal suffrage or democracy.
    Mar 8, 2018
  26. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    to be fair, when our system was created, colleges were still religious institutes. You forget that we never had a restart button where we beheaded a bunch of people XD
    Mar 8, 2018
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  27. Donutmindme
    Donutmindme
    But I’ll need it for my senior year. It’s already difficult to only listen from one ear. I miss a lot of stuff the teacher says.
    Mar 8, 2018
  28. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    See? You people never even worked toward secularism.
    Mar 8, 2018
  29. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    eh, democracy might be a crappy system, but it's the best one we got where changes to our society don't involve bloodshed and terror most of the time...
    Mar 8, 2018
  30. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Permanent revolution is the way to go!
    Mar 8, 2018
  31. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    @Donut they don't let you record lectures with a device? usually that'd be the first step
    Mar 8, 2018
  32. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Hey I feel like you're criticising the French revolution there.
    Mar 8, 2018
  33. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    a second problem is that people grew compliant. The capitalist system was able to function because of things like employee provided health care. That only happened because of a growing fear of a communist revolution occurring. But, like I said, people grew compliant. They let themselves slowly be cheated of their benefits. and now we're here back where we started 90 years ago
    Mar 8, 2018
  34. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    *roll eyes* you think? great witch hunt you guys had there :p
    Mar 8, 2018
  35. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    that's human nature @Alea XD which bring me back to "historical patterns"
    Mar 8, 2018
  36. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    Come on, killing priests who didn't swear the civil oath is one of the best thing that happened to our country.
    Mar 8, 2018
  37. Deleted member 37987
    Deleted member 37987
    The committee of public salvation really deserves its name. It might have been brutal and radical, but that's what you need in a revolution. Permanent revolution is merely an ideal that has never been shown to work so far.
    Mar 8, 2018
  38. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    The biggest advantage is that they've bought a lot of our politicians. It's reached a point where they give pre-written documents they want passes as law, law that will benefit them. Congressmen then sponser said bill and try to get it passed. IF they don't, their donations stop.
    Mar 8, 2018
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  39. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    yep, and then our previous pres didn't go through with making campaigns un-donatable.... People on both sides think Obama was liberal, but his policies were pretty centrist.
    Mar 8, 2018
  40. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    Not saying I'm blaming him for playing it safe when he was the first "colored" president of the USA, but simply that a lot of the results were pretty disappointing, including that health care thing where insurance companies managed to wedge in their agendas because of the congressional block..
    Mar 8, 2018
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  41. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    what the U.S. needs are politicians that say "no" to large big company donations. The whole, "corporations are people and have the right to speech through donations" is what first started this problem. Until that get's over turned, this will continue for a while longer
    Mar 8, 2018
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  42. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    Agreed majorly about the corporations are people bullshit. Not to mention that that originated from the shitty days of monopolies and trusts -.- leftovers from that shitty era where most people were essentially serfs still screw us over today...
    Mar 8, 2018
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  43. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    The concept of Liberal in american politics is actually centralist. Lots of so called Liberal presidents were central. My opinion is that the U.S. is so used to conservatisim that even the smallest edge away from that gets blown out of proportion. This is probably connected to the deep rooted fear of socialism and communism
    Mar 9, 2018
  44. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    well it honestly depends on the political spectrum you are using. When I'm using those terms, I'm using them on a line scale of US politics specifically, but it's true given a more global perspective, US "liberals" are simply trying to catch up to most civilized counties in many ways
    Mar 9, 2018
  45. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    Trying to catch up, but stoping .5 to 3/4's of the way to the finish line while also taking a few steps back back someone is bribing them
    Mar 9, 2018
  46. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    well rather than stepping back, I'd say the whole thing is more of a series of cycles that goes forwards in the long run but can go backwards for quite awhile in the short run (long run being 100 years, short run being 20 years) We're simply on a down cycle *shrug*
    Mar 9, 2018
  47. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    That is how it's explained. We just have to find away to cope with or stop it. That's why, vote if you can!!
    Mar 9, 2018
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  48. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    it's not like I don't vote just because I feel it's pointless. I just still feel it's pointless even after voting XD (I live in cali so my vote matters less than others from small states, not to mention how rarely we go right)
    Mar 9, 2018
  49. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    I live in LA, (the state) so my vote is desperately needed. I've actually considered going to town halls if my representative didn't show to them. Fun fact, in my state at least, you don't have to live in the district your representing
    Mar 9, 2018
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  50. doomeye1337
    doomeye1337
    hwaiting, alea~
    Mar 9, 2018
  51. Gandire Alea
    Gandire Alea
    My plans changed, maybe when I return from Japan in a few years~
    Mar 9, 2018