Spoiler A Stepmother's Märchen

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  1. IIVISS

    IIVISS Well-Known Member

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    Is it true that Richelieu kidnapped Shuli...?
     
  2. Almizha

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    Yes! also from what I remember he wanted to sexually abuse Shulli (although they don't explain it well if he wanted to hurt her or sexually abuse her) I think it was because Shulli made fun of him and refused to stay with him. :blob_tilt:
     
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    Thank you so much
     
  4. isaadali

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    Can someone pls spoiler more about crown prince he was exiled? So how is his life now?
     
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    I've asked about this multiple times here.No one knows for sure apparently. I think it got played out as a minor plot place in the novel unlike the trials.
     
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    It's just stated that he lives in exile but somehow he had a 7-year-old son ( I guess if I remember correctly) It just stated that he only knows the existence of the child after the mother is dead.

    NO, the mother is not Shuri. The name of the child's mom is not even stated in the novel.

    He still stay in exile for the rest of his life,no further elaboration or side story regarding how his life in exile is.
     
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    He had a child! Was there anything else about him? No comments from family of Jeremy Nora?

    Yess I saw honestly it looks it just you and me who wants him to suffer lol others completely forgot about his character
     
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    Well, Nora didn't really mind the child being Theo's son cuz for him, the child did nothing wrong and the sin and hatred he felt are only toward not his child.
    Also, Micheal (Nora and Shuri's firstborn son) really likes to play with him. He even gave his most cherished toy ( a nutcracker doll) to Theo's son.
    Poor kid is scared of Nora and Jeremy since they look so scary in his eyes and he knows the history between them and his father.
     
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    Thank you so much for the spoiler ❤️❤️ also is the kid living a noble life? Or poor or again wasn’t mentioned? How does his kid look like Theo child did they mention hair color or eyes?
     
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    Pleasz Spoiler chapter 107???
     
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    Does anyone know why the recent chapters of manhwa haven’t been translated anywhere (or at least the places I usually read them in didn’t have them.) Last I checked chapter 96 was posted in December and it’s been months…
    If nothing else does anyone know which novel chapter is the manhwa chapter 96
     
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    Is it ever explained how she regressed back in time? I'm glad we know so many spoilers, but I feel that's one plot point that was never addressed.
     
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    @Azka Anees , thx so much! I love this story.:love:
     
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    Yes!!! Mentally, she's older than the guys her age, her only friends are older ladies like Nora's mom and the Empress and she's been acting as a mother figure for both Jeremy and Nora for a few years too. Even if I were to ignore the whole motherly aspect, none of these guys are on the same level of maturity and experience as she is.
     
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    Hi does anyone know where can I read the MTL version of the novel.
     
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    Man...I hate Elias.
    As I said before, he married the woman who caused Shulli's death in the previous lifetime.
    And in this one, he's still such a useless and selfish piece of s***t. Now he even dares accuse Jeremy of loving Shulli in front of all the nobles, when there was a huge rumour about this before. I can't forgive him.

    Elias doesn't deserve Shulli as his mother, as opposed to his siblings :(
     
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    First, I will say I’m not going to be great at names, but you’ll get the gist. Ive read LN and manhwa. This is the synopsis of TL1 as well as the main differences in TL2, Villain endings, and overall synopsis.

    TL1: Shuli was married at 14 and widowed at 16. She raised 4 kids till she was 23 and the oldest (21) was getting married and would assume leadership over the noble family. Day before wedding the fiancé, Ohara, tells Shuli that Jeremy doesn’t want her to attend the wedding. Shuli reluctantly decides not to attend after ohara. Makes a few more comments that Jeremy supposedly made. She decides to leave the family since she in convinced that the children hate her, and has never felt appreciated. Wedding day she sets out on a carriage, but is brutally murdered and cut up in the mountains.

    TL1 did kids actually love her: The book clearly lays out that the 4 kids actually did appreciate and even love her? Night before wedding Kids find out that Ohara had told Shuli not to come to wedding. They decide Rachel, one of the twins, would go and pick her up day of and bring her to the wedding, not knowing that she would have already departed. The twins agree to call her mom for the first time, they had up till then called her fake mom. When Nora (ML) interrupts the wedding with the news that Shuli was murdered, Jeremy strangles Ohara (would have killed her if Nora hadn’t pulled him off) while they are still married, it is clear that Jeremey is going to divorce or annul the marriage.

    TL1 Aftermath: Nora investigates the murder quickly implicating the church. It is clear that revealing the murder would lead a civil war between the country and the church.

    TL1 inferred reasons for rifts between shuli and kids: First she was only 2 years older than the oldest. She was only 16 when she found herself in charge of a large estate and many other assets. The age difference made it difficult for the kids to respect her. Then the father spent much of the last of his time with her prepping her for taking over the family, the twins in TL2 state at the beginning that their father loved fake mom the most due to this misunderstanding.

    Then she kicked the extended family out of the estate on day one. One of the main reasons the father married her in the first place was to have someone act as regent for his estate. He couldn’t trust his family, and Jeremy was clearly not going to be ready either. The kids actually had liked some of the extended family, not understanding that they were vultures trying to pick at the family assets while things were unstable. The extended family of course goes and trashes her reputation in the society. They challenge her right to being the head of household, but the other duke (nora’s father) and the emperor throw out the challenge. Extended family pick at the legitimacy of the will and paint her as a gold digger. Which is further exasperated by the fact that she hires mercenaries to act as pretend lovers. (LN makes it clear she never did anything. States most she did with husband was a basic kiss. Everything else was the 1st time with ML.) She used the pretend lovers as a shield from people trying to force her into relationships.

    The extended family also had hired some of the servants in the mansion to spread rumors that she was planning on abandoning them among other things. These rumors created a large rift between them. Shuli was just so busy trying to keep her head above water managing the estate. On top of trying to handle 4 children only slightly younger than her that go out of their way to make things difficult for her. Seriously, they are entitled with no self-control. Even in the TL2 the kids are constantly getting into trouble and getting into things at ages above when they should have known better. TL1 it was even worse because they were far worse about it. The fact that there were people actively sowing disinformation about her in the household and out in society made things far worse than anything else.

    TL1 people responsible for her death: Shuli litteraly was surrounded by enemies, with no one in her corner. Ohara really only told her not to come to the wedding. While this resulted in people being able to murder Shuli, when she was out with little escort, she didn’t really play a role. Albert the Captain of the Knights leaked her travel plans to the church. Creepy Cardinal dude who had obsessed over her along with the rest of the church had knights dress as bandits to murder her. Creepy cardinal duded played the biggest role. The other church leadership were more interested in self-indulgence, if it wasn’t for creepy cardinal dude’s obsession, then it probably wouldn’t have happened. Other church leaders probably jumped on board because of her reputation.

    TL2 Main differences: Shuli was far better at managing estate affairs so she had a lot more time for other things as well as see what was happening. She didn’t immediately kick out extended family since it had been one of the biggest hit to her reputation. Once kids see the extended family for what they are they are on board with the decision when she boots them. With the extra time Shuli is able to focus on relationships with the kids as well as others, notably Nora (Jeremy’s friend). Then she makes multiple political/family moves to strengthen her position or counterattack those against her. It isn’t all good though. Crown Prince also becomes obsessed with her in TL2, which isn’t a good thing since he is selfish and manipulative. He is also working closely with the church. He even uses the church to try and back Shuli into a corner. TL1 she did not seem to have any notable dealings with the crown prince.

    TL2 Just desserts for the villains: Crown Prince lives in exile and has children with unknown mother. Ohara girl marries Elias (middle child, most annoying and obnoxious. Believe me it is punishment enough). Ohara’s family are all executed for siding with the church. Pope and church leadership that were not killed during the brief war were tried and executed. Creepy cardinal dude was brutally murdered by Jeremy. LN makes it clear he could have just captured him. Queen Elizabeth feels like the worlds worst mother, although her actual kid becomes king so...

    Overall Synopsis: Kids were all terribly immature for their age. . Other characters were trying to take advantage of a vulnerable situation. Then there were characters like the queen who had it out for her due to her personal hatred of the woman Shuli resembled. The creepy cardinal dude obsessed and stalked throughout her life, decided if he couldn't have her being celebate and all then no one would.
     
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    Sins of the royal family. Reason for the whole story. # they can’t do anything right.

    Emperor: In the previous generation falls in love with a woman along with two dukes. Then he puts a gag order on talking about her. His rule is very passive, allowing the church to basically do as they please. In the LN, while the two young future dukes and Shuli are taking on the church. He decides to stay out of the affair even when armies are sent from other kingdoms, he keeps the royal army out of the fight. Then of course he does nothing to raise his children. I don’t know why. He should have plenty of time, since a council of nobles seems to run the country including deciding taxes and confronting the church. Only thing he really does in the story is somewhat support MC. That being said his support consists of not letting the MC get things taken away from her arbitrarily. In TL1, he elects to keep the actual conceal the results of the investigation of Shuli’s murder. This leads to war with another country instead of the church who was actually at fault for the murder. If an issue comes against her, he doesn’t step in. We will title him “King Couch potato”.

    Queen Elizabeth: Most inconsistent character in the story. Decides that she needed to raise the crown prince (stepson) with twice the amount of affection as her own son. Crown prince of course notices that she doesn’t actually love him, so it doesn’t have much effect. Her reason for giving the crown prince more of her attention is since he will become king and she doesn’t want to be one of those bad stepmothers. But both in the manhwa and LN she takes multiple actions that actually undermine the crown prince.

    The LN queen’s only reason for acting against Shuli is that Shuli resembles her predecessor (crown prince’s mom). In TL2 she sabotages the relationships between the crown prince and the two most influential ducal families that have supported the throne since the countries founding. No justification, Shuli just resembles the previous empress.

    The manhwa seems to try to give her more justification for her actions. She claims she is testing Shuli’s capability as the head of the family by forcing the initial trial (When Jeremy struck the Crown prince). Later says she would have taken over many of the assets of the family if the trial had gone her way.

    In both cases, the relationship between the crown prince and Jeremy/ducal family is severed. Queen Elizabeth’s ducal family relationship with the crown prince is also severed, which the queen takes no action to remedy. All of this leaves the crown prince’s support incredibly week.

    In TL1 manhwa when the church wins as the country faces a major war due to the church’s interference, The Elizabeth says that Shuli’s former husband chose wrong when he made her the successor. Basically blaming everything on a girl who faced enemies from all sides including herself, and then was murdered for it. We will give her the title “Worst mom ever”. Title she actually gives herself when seeing what the crown prince has turned into and the results of neglecting her actual son.

    Crown Prince Theobald: The crown prince is the runner up for the main antagonist of the series, right after the creepy cardinal guy from the church. He wants Shuli’s affection since she resembles his dead mother (that he never met or have memories of). He doesn’t stand up to his mother or the church during the 2 times that Shuli is taken to trial. He decides that if she is backed into a corner she will have nowhere else to turn to. He sabotages his relationship with ML (Nora) by lying to the ML father about various different things, destroying the relationship between the ML and his father, who takes the prince’s side. He sets his little brother up in a gambling ring run by Shuli’s deadbeat brother and attended by 2nd sons of other prominent families, hoping to undermine the other families and get his hands on Shuli. Then the crown prince works with the church. This collusion undermines the royal family rule, which doesn’t make much sense for his future rule. When confronted with the fact that he has lost support of the 2 main ducal families, he concludes that it doesn’t matter. When he is emperor only people on his side will exist (Manhwa). We will give him the title of “Entitled prick”.

    Synopsis: The royal family is literally not ruling the country, the noble council is. The noble council is also the only thing keeping the church in check, but the royal family is also actively working against their greatest allies (Royal faction). The family literally decides to escalate a misunderstanding that led to the heir to a dukedom hitting the crown prince to attempted treason, and only absolves the trial when it looks like it will lead to a “trial by combat”. In which the duke’s side would win. Then they also allow the church to accuse Shuli and Jeremy of incest, with no proof. In the LN, this is after Shuli has confirmed she is a virgin and could easily do so again (confirmed by something like white priestess). In both timelines they sit back and allow a war to happen, without getting personally involved. TL2 troops are literally coming in from other countries and they abstain, only concessing that now the nobles can bring their personal knights into the capital to attack the church. Reason is that no matter who wins they won’t be as affected.
     
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    What was jeremy’s reaction to finding out the truth about his dad
     
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    I hate thay rachel was seperated from them in the end its sad girls have to leave their families while boys can stay with thier idk did she choose to leave or did she have to .does she ever visit alot or do they visit them and when the boys get married where do they go

    Plus what are the brothers reactions to rachel getting married

    And lastly what chapter does alis sister appear in again ?

    Why are thier dresses so damn big it must be bare uncomfortable i dont know if its just the viewpoint but shulis dresses take up 4 of her i know its historical but .... its HUGE (beautiful too)
     
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