Spoiler About Ascendance of a Bookworm

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  1. ElefantVerd

    ElefantVerd It's not me, and it's not you.

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    Huh?
     
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    Twilight Sparkle is a prodigal mage that initially has no social skills and no friends. She loves books above everything else and want to spend her life in library. Eventually, she makes a lot of friends, does a big deal of work to help others, and becomes a princess. Also, saves her kingdom on several occasion and gains her own castle and domain.
     
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    ElefantVerd It's not me, and it's not you.

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    Not a pony?
     
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    Some question about book 2.
    What happened to Christina and former orphanage director?
    What are family relation of Ferdinand, Head of Temple and Gilvester?
    And how is Gilvester really called? I assume that novel uses real German names.
     
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    It's been a while since I read the story but I don't think we ever meet either of them. Maybe Christina shows up briefly at a party?

    Ferdinand is Gilvester's half brother. The temple head is Gilvester's uncle.

    https://www8.atwiki.jp/booklove/pages/276.html

    The Japanese wiki has a page trying to figure out the origin and romanization of every name. Gilvester is assumed to be from Sylvester. It's a soft g, so it's pronouced like Jilvester.
     
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    what kind of trauma?
    will she recover from it?
     
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    Tronbay trees suck out magic. Maine has a huge amount of magic even among nobles.

    A knight who's supposed to be protecting Maine finds out she's a commoner and threatens to maim her instead. She gets a bit injured, and a Tronbay plant gets a bit of her blood on it and starts growing rapidly around her, constricting her and sucking out her magic.

    It's a scary experience, but if anything she came out of it more scared of nobles because of the knight who threatened her rather than scared of tronbay itself. She continues to use it to some extent for papermaking and eventually has a couple chances to use it as a substitute for a magic tool for sucking out children's magic. It's not a lasting trauma.

    However, she does get real PTSD-level trauma much later, stemming from her experiences in battle near the end of the story. It's implied that she successfully manages to mostly overcome it, however.
     
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    ohh.. thank you..
    what happened to the knight after that incident?
    I'm sorry if ask too much questions..
     
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    No problem, I enjoy talking about it, but there aren't many people I can talk about it to in English.

    IIRC the knight in that incident was arrested and executed for disobeying orders. His mother blames Maine and is part of the faction that's hostile to her for the rest of the series., taking part in several plots to try and discredit or slander Maine and her allies.
     
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    wow.. it's the knights fault.. so why blame Maine.. LOL.. so she's one of the villain.. who is the main villain in the novel?
     
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    There's not really one main villain. The closest would be (I'm going to butcher romanizing all of these names) Georgine. She's the older sister of Gilvester, the Aub (Lord) of Ehrenfest and eventually Maine's adopted father. She wanted to become Aub but instead was married off to the large neighboring territory, Ahrensbach. She controls the pro-Ahrensbach "Veronica" faction in Ehrenfest that is comprised of basically all the hostile characters in the series. She plots a way to steal control of Ehrenfest out from under Gilvester, but Maine figures it out and turns the tables.

    Despite being the closest thing to the main mastermind behind the enemy faction I think Maine only actually meets Georgine once, during part 3.

    The Veronica faction in Ehrenfest includes Veronica, the mother of Gilvester who tormented Ferdinand as a boy, the former Temple chief who was the main enemy in part 2, the family of the knight who tangled with Maine on the tronbay expedition, and the duke of Gerlach, who was in the shadows of most of the assassination and kidnapping attempts on Maine throughout the story, and is the biggest enemy who Maine fights and defeats personally in the last series of battles.

    Georgine also has a daughter, Dietlinde, who's probably the most visible villain, especially during the school arc in parts 4 and 5. The school is basically hogwarts, and Dietlinde is basically Malfoy. Only facepalmingly stupid. Dietlinde winds up becoming Aub of Ahrensbach and the King orders Ferdinand, the head priest, to marry her (for reasons, it's a long story).

    Towards the end of the story she invites in ships from a neighboring nation without royal permission and does everything they say, eventually attempting to murder Ferdinand and stage a coup against the King. Those foreigners are also major villains in the final arc who don't really see magic-users as people so much as resources. One of them also has a fated connection with Ferdinand.

    So like I said, the villains are kind of all over the place.
     
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    She got married to the Chief Priest right? Any moment between them? Any children at the end?
     
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    So in other words, in the end she married the chief priest Ferdinand and become a feudal lord?
     
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    Personally I am more to the name Geovester/Gilvester/Giuvester for an Italian flare but Japanese follows writing over pronunciation and pronounce things as written. Instead of Anjelica, they pronounce it Ankelica. Because of Sylvester and his alias I had imagined Ellenfest to be Italian or at least the Lord family with some other European but it seems to be predominantly German.

    She gets a magic school bus.

    Yes, Ferdinand pulled a Genji Monogatari and raised his own loli waifu. They currently don't plan on having children as they are too wrapped up in their own interest. She plans to turn Aub position over to the rightful designated inheiritor as soon as they become of age because ruling takes too much time away from reading. Currently fifteen year old Maine is the mother of the nine/ten year old designated heir.
     
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    They believed the chief priest although the authorities later blames any confusion on the chief but the knight is punished and damage done.

    The mother is one of the child doting parent. But putting it into perspective she gave birth to a son who didn't have enough magic to be a noble so he was sent to the shunned church; where they dump other low mana or punished individuals and where prostitution occurs.

    Although some noble borns do travel from home to church on a daily basis but now her son can be talked about openly instead of being a shunned topic. There was a civil war and nobles were sent to central and now there's a shortage of nobles needed to operate the land so they had to return those blue priest to noble society.

    But since her son is now punished and dismissed from the knight order he has once again become a shunned topic. He was a priest and he was punished from the knight order, those demerits have a direct impact on his marriage prospect and impact for her.

    Also since they are a middle/upper aristocracy it is possible the husband have one more wife with a designated child to be the next head. The wives may be rivals and the punishment is a setback for her. Or there's no other wife and she just really dotes on the knight.

    That's why the mother hates Maine.
     
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    lesser_bus.jpg
    it was a lion, but turned into a red panda (lesser panda)
    レッサーバス
     
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    Maine knew what she was doing.
    Thank you for the pic.

    Mother is delusional.
     
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    consider mother's point of view:
    your family heard a certain temple head badmouthing an upstart commoner; demanding nobility treatment just because she has a little bit of magic.
    one day you learnt that your son has been sentenced to death for lightly cutting said upstart.
    * what's the big deal? she lives; and technically she might not get that wound if she didn't resist
    to put salt on the wound, your family has been fined 1/4 of the price that brat's robe (ruined by cut and blood).
    it would be stranger not to resent maine.

    ferdinand's pov: military insubordination that jeopardized the mission? die!

    it's an odd world where:
    - non baptized children are not considered as human
    - people can be bought and sold; there's a contract for that and a magical ring to ensure obedience.
    heads rolled around maine.
    though she tried to minimize the number of fatalities, different social classes have different common sense and her influence is limited.
     
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    So she adopted a child to inherit her place?
     
  20. Gitami

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    There was a designated heir appointed by the previous lord but Georgina and Dietdlind planned to sideline her. Georgina with her other grand child and Dietdlind wanted the position herself although she planned to try and take a shot at being Queen. As Ferdinand and Maine are foreign nobles the local guys would grumble, only grumble since the two did save the kingdom, and nobles everywhere thinks Maine or at least the schemer Ferdinand would get rid of the heir but Maine announced in her opening speech that she plans to hand it over to the heir. Until the heir is of age Maine as Aub will be guardian over the child.

    Majority of nobles are impressed at her willingness to follow the previous King's wishes. Those who know her knows she just want more reading time.