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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by OldManGu, Nov 13, 2019.

  1. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    hoahem~
    translator vs aggregator
    it remind me with mangafox drama

    anyway @Ai chan seem like entertainment industry quite similar despite it on different country
     
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  2. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Hahaha. Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Tell that to the girls who committed suicide after being forced into pornography.
    Anyway, now I know why her name is popular, she and her members are in a pop group and even debut in Korea.
    Makes sense. But dont glamorize pornography
    It is not the same as being a gravure idol
     
  3. ongoingwhy

    ongoingwhy Meat Pie Lover

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    Sexual exploitation doesn't just happen in the pornography industry. In South Korea, a Jang Ja-yeon, an actress was sexually exploited by her agency and later committed suicide. I am sure there are plenty of examples in the entertainment industry from all over the world. Let's not forget sex trafficking either. Maybe you should start boycotting the entertainment industry altogether because they enable the sexploitation of young women...

    More importantly, Mikami Yua wasn't forced into pornography. She actually only planned to make only one film but continued because it sold very well. She's probably currently one of the most well-paid AV idols per film.

    Also, I am not sure if you're doing this on purpose but it almost sounds like you look down on her just because she's in porn.
     
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  4. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Stop with the fallacies. You said AV idols are not any different from regular idols.
    Which simply isnt true. You are now making false equivalencies.
    Unlike the Japanese porn industry, the American one is actually regulated so the stars are more protected.
    You seem to be looking at it with rose colored glasses.
    Saying that the Korean idol industry is exploitative doesnt change the fact that Japanese porn industry is unregulated which is dangerous for obvious reasons. You are just trying to distract.
    Saying I am looking down on her is just another distraction.
     
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    ongoingwhy Meat Pie Lover

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    Oh, so that's why you were talking about. Well, say so in the first place.

    How would I know what the hell you're talking about from this alone:

    I said the work of AV idols isn't much different from regular idols except for sex. Do you know the meaning of sentences change depending on the context? Thanks for wasting my time. Next time, please be more specific.
     
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  6. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Hahaha, fair enough. I just read an article on regulation of Japanese porn industry so it was at the back of my mind with all the Yakuza nonsense too.
    They call them AV idols, instead of porn actors, it glamorizes something that isnt glamorous.
    Looks beautiful but like the lady I mixed her up with, who was an actress who got blacklisted and then turn to pornography
    Pornography some join it willingly yes but the stigma stays after they leave. Regardless of how it is glamorized.
    Sora Aoi was in Shimokita Glory Days but I doubt she will ever become a mainstream actress.
    Maybe Yua Mikami might be the trailblazer but given her reception as an idol in South Korea, I doubt it
    The same men who call themselves AV idol fans wont date or marry AV idols when they retire
     
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    Lazriser Well-Known Member

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    A thread about @OldManGu s fetishes confiscated ended with a debate between @Wujigege and @ongoingwhy about the prostitution in Japan and South Korea.

    Well, shit. It seems them blackmail or mind break tags ain't an exaggeration after all in the idol H manga. I still call bullshit on having sex until dawn and keeps going the next day.
    Likely with his family members and cousins. Higher chance it's his mom's side of the family, but there is an even chance it's his aunt. I could be wrong though, but as he says: we don't talk about it outside the house.
     
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  8. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Well, this thread made me feel rusty so I read up to sharpen my Radical Feminism knives
    and this was just..

    "The book also explores Japan’s teenage prostitution problem asserting that 1 in 10 Japanese men has a “lolita complex” (pedophiliac tendencies) and that 15% of the male population has viewed child pornography, while over 10% of the male population owns child pornography. The statistics were not pulled out of thin air but come from a Japanese government survey"


    source: http://www.japansubculture.com/sexnomics-japans-billion-dollar-sex-industry-and-the-pink-zone/
     
  9. ongoingwhy

    ongoingwhy Meat Pie Lover

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    I don't think this is that common nowadays. Sure, you can still find seedy businesses that still do this but I don't think the industry as a whole does this sort of thing any more. Especially when more people are willing to join the industry. For example, Matsushita Saeko was an etiquette lecturer and air stewardess before she joined the AV industry. With a resume like that, I doubt she was in a position where she had no choice but to become an AV idol but she still joined.

    Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with that since it means more work opportunities for them outside of AV and they'll be more likely to find work even if they quit the AV industry. For example, Mikami Yua and Kirara Asuka started their own respective clothing brands. If AV idols were still called porn actresses, I doubt that could have happened.
     
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    It's a well open secret why the success of them underage merchandise is always high on demand there. If you look at the top tags for H, you will know what them Japs' fetishes include or exclude.
     
  11. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    This is my issue. There is a stigma associated with it. That is the sad reality.
    We are all hypocrites
    Besides, softcore pornography is more titillating.
    Given all the full frontal nudity movies that are so common even Ichikawa Yui was in a nude role recently. Hikari Mutushima too from Gomen Seishun/ Love Exposure.
    When you see your favorite actresses fully nude in a mainstream movie
    Hardcore pornography feels pointless to me
     
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