Discussion Anyone here confident in their skill in the English language?

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  1. Amplify

    Amplify Well-Known Member

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    I have a guy here who is insistent that the following sentence:
    is a 'suggestion', not a 'demand'.

    Which one would you all say it is?
    https://www.strawpoll.me/16782892

    *edit* - full context:
    A group translated a chapter that another group had done previously, as the group that had already done the chapter was focused on speed over quality and the group redoing the chapter is just doing each one sequentially rather than just jumping to the "latest chapter".

    The person in question "shii" made that post in the comments for that chapter directed at the translator.
    That's the entire context of it.
    Picture of his full and exact post:
    https://i.imgur.com/rf9rLip.jpg
     
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  2. sweed

    sweed l.o.v.e.m.u.f.f.i.n.

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    Since he calls you "retarded fucks" it's an insulting command, much like how a boss would abuse their workers.

    Further proof: There'ren't any soft words here like "suggest" or "Why don't..." or "do you agree".
     
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  3. tahzib1451

    tahzib1451 Title?is it food?

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    its a demand...the moment he used abusive language it became a demand....suggestion would be laying out 2 or 3 options and let the receiver choose from those options....but since it only has one option and he is also using abusive language it became a demand or more specifically an ORDER
     
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    amilhs Moon Walker

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    Actually it can be called a suggestion until the word "chapters" then when you read on, Its now a demand cuz of the words, "you retarded fucks".
     
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    Adastria Lillith [Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus]

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    It's a command, use exclamation mark!
     
  6. Amplify

    Amplify Well-Known Member

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    I mean, I've been patiently explaining as much to him for a week now, but he seems to think that:
    Or basically because he's not threatening them, that somehow it's magically not a demand. *shrug*
     
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    Suijin Blood God [Medic]

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    burp
     
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    EnerHighwave Holy Daugther of Kyuu 8❤️ Speedy's pet Lovely's ❤️

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    It sounds like a demand to me
     
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    DiabolicGod Well-known lazy Member

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    or it could just be a suggestion with a following insult that somehow got mixed into the suggestion:hmm:
    tbh it is a suggestion, just that the insult makes it seem more like a demand
    just think of the sentence "Actually devote your time to doing recent chapters you nice and lovely person"
    there is no exclamation mark nor any other completely clear indication that it is a demand, though it is on the border between demands and suggestions
     
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    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    I'm quite confident with my English. At least nobody has slapped my ass when I tell them I need the toilet yet.

    I'd say it's a very strong 'order' by someone who thinks he's better than you. But if you keep skipping chapters, maybe he got a point. I don't know. I don't even know what titles you translate.
     
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    I would say it was more of a demanding if the person had given a reason why you should devote your time to recent chapters it would become more of a suggestion except for the insult
     
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    DiabolicGod Well-known lazy Member

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    it all depends on the context though. Idk if it is just this sentence standing alone or not, but standing alone like that it is a demanding suggestion that can be picked up both ways, imo

    and @Amplify did you close the vote? I just got a blackscreen in the window I opened it in...
    nvm, I had to copy the address of the link and open it again, then it worked
     
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    How about you Actually devote your time to doing recent chapters, you retarded fucks.

    Is probably what he meant to put, which is a suggestion, I guess.
     
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    First off, I lack the context or the full sentence as this seems like a fragment. So Nazi is fired up.
    The comma is also missing, so this is less than a fragment.

    Quite simply put, this is either a terrible suggestion or an excellent command.

    The insulting tone suggests it is a terrible suggestion, but the sheer insensibility points towards a command.
     
  15. Amplify

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    A group translated a chapter that another group had done previously, as the group that had already done the chapter was focused on speed over quality and the group redoing the chapter is just doing each one sequentially rather than just jumping to the "latest chapter".

    The person in question "shii" made that post in the comments for that chapter directed at the translator.
    That's the entire context of it.
     
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    It is a suggestion. A retarded suggestion. Because only a retard can make a demand a say it’s a suggestion~
     
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    DiabolicGod Well-known lazy Member

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    so it was the entire comment...
    that person definitely didn't have good grades in english then
     
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  18. Eternal Emperor

    Eternal Emperor SelfAware-PieceOfShit

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    Your guy(?) must be one of those intent is all that matters type~?
    Or maybe he’s just as retarded as one would need to be to consider that a suggestion~~?
    :blobthinkingsmirk::blobthinkingsmirk::blobthinkingsmirk:
     
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  19. joey183

    joey183 The Mysterious Entity

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    It sounded commanding because first, there was no 'please' and second, he was being rude.
     
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  20. Razogul

    Razogul [Flag Raiser][Rald's and Carm's Senpai]

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    It's a demand, not a suggestion. Guy is wanting to order you to do that, not suggest something.
     
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