ASking for a new feature

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Bug Reports' started by sigmarc, Nov 13, 2020.

  1. sigmarc

    sigmarc Well-Known Member

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    i was wondering when the tag says adapted to manga, CD, or something like that but..... why are there no link to the sites for them

    Help please
     
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    Namaewa_ARV Well-Known Member

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    Well, i would think it is because tags are basically just additional information regarding the Novel. Links to manga does not seem necessary on a Novel related forum. It is only a matter of searching the same name of the novel or alternative names in a manga website to find the manga. Also , it could also be that, many manga are scanlations, which is illegal unlike fan translations of novel(un-licenced for most part). So providing links to them might be a bad idea for the NU website.

    Of course, this is just my opinion and thoughts.
     
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    Lazriser Well-Known Member

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    Not all adaptations are translated. Some go under the radar, like way under.
    I agree with this.
     
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    DiabolicGod Well-known lazy Member

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    Whats the difference?
    Afaik all translation without the copyright holder's permission is in a legal grey-zone, where, (like it usually is) translation is mostly ignored unless it somehow reduces the money publishers or those people make, since the impact on them is usually negligible and also serves as advertisement/builds a fandom.

    Scanlations are also made by fans and free to read, no?
     
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  5. MangoGuy

    MangoGuy Rambling Mango

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    Typically, those adaptations don't exist online. They exist physically. NU cannot link to any illegal site which hosts such things online.

    For those which do have online versions available, the reader community can link to them in the LCD. Because NU cannot ascertain the veracity of an online source. More importantly, NU lists novels. It has no responsibility to list the other adaptations and such. So, if it does decide to list them, that should be a minimum effort thingy.

    With regards to the legality of fan translations, if an official translation doesn't exist, then it is legal in the general sense. However, if it exists, then there are grounds for DMCA. NU only links to fan sites, but doesn't guarantee their legality. That is why, many broken links exist due to sites getting DMCA.
     
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    Namaewa_ARV Well-Known Member

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    Well, Compared to the novel translations, where only the source material is reproduced to a different language, scanlations are basically copying the art works as well. That means, kind of stealing some one else's effort in drawing them. Besides, the manga adapted from novels have basic fanbase already and most likely have official English translations(exceptions are there). Well, it is true that scanlations serve as advertisements, but they hardly result in sales of official translated copies. mostly due to unavailability and price. And recently there were talks about new laws that strictly monitors scanlations. Not sure if it extends to novel translations or not.
     
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    DiabolicGod Well-known lazy Member

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    True, I did not think of that
    Not to mention that many people can read at least good enough english to make sense of comic dialogues, so I guess mangas are more of a danger when translated.
     
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    MangoGuy Rambling Mango

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    You point about art is actually the most important difference between fan TLs and fan scanlations. And yes. Laws are getting stricter. Because official websites exist today for official translations to be available for free to all users.
     
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  9. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    because it pain on da butt to link them to official site~
    no this cat not wanna see amazon jp decorated with moonrunes! or other officials site that this cat can't buy!
    How about adapted from song? youtube vocaloid? adapted from games.... oh yes there are story adapted from video game usually side story such as .hack// the world or ar tonelico
     
  10. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Magical Girl of Love and Justice』

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    Fantranslations of mangas and novels are both illegal. Mangas are just more illegal than novels.

    Basically, anyone and everyone has the right to translate whatever they want. But if you don't have the permission/license from the original copyright holder, you are not allowed to upload those translations to the internet.

    Essentially, you own the copyright for your translation, but you do not own the original work, therefore it is illegal to make your derivative work (the translation) available to the public.

    Mangas are worse on that end because they're also copying the images. In novels the entire text is a derivative work, so you basically own everything that is on the site, you just don't have the permission to post it... In mangas you don't even own the images you're posting, so that's straight-up theft, which is obviously worse.

    But well, I digress, let me answer the OP.
    Because NU is a site for novels, not mangas.

    Just search the manga name in mangadex and you should be able to find it if a translation exists.
     
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