Cleaning up tags on NU V2.0

... Alright, I'll try to be as clear as possible...

What. Do. You. Want. A. Tag. For?

Just that, I need to understand what you want. What is the purpose of the tag? What is it supposed to mean?

Yep, we'll keep on removing it unless you clarify what you want.

Mods are most likely as confused as I am, that's why you got no reply from them so far.

 

Name 1 series, where the MC is female, yet an important side character gets raped

 

That isn't an explanation either but a tautology. It's really funny how all of you simply repeat that it's confusing but you can't express what particular point you don't understand.

@leegood Yes, the society does consider him a lost cause, the mc himself does not.

@LaDyViL This particular nuance is either not covered by those tags or they have a separate meaning. For instance, Weak to Strong also covers Hardworking Protagonist. It is the latter's nuance and its use in context without the Weak to Strong tag why it exists.

Underestimated Protagonists usually refers to the entire plot, while my tag only marks a short plot line that sets a part of the premise of the story, and also hints to a particular writing style.

Overpowered Protagonist doesn't cover this topic at all and rarely even appears in combination with my tag.

Lastly, people assume that Sudden Strength Gain refers to an external event, e.g. mc found an artifact or someone cured him, as I noted in my first post: "which recover not due to a new event, e.g., Sudden Strength Gain"

 

I think that @LaDyViL has clarified your doubt regarding the tag?
We don't differentiate between getting stronger by luck or talent. If it happens suddenly, so to speak, that is good enough for the tag.
Reason being that this 'mysterious' sudden power up due to talent is also, more often than not, considered a lucky break.

 

First of all, you are also using 'tautology' since you can't figure out that people are asking you what and why you want to add this particular tag. Does it add to a reader's experience that they know of this tag? Do you even have a name for this tag? you are only giving a vague description of it, 'It's kinda like this' does not work.

For example, the weak to strong tag means that a character becomes gradually stronger, and you can judge a novel by this tag about how the MC gains powers. Your 'tag' on the other hand, does not give much of a view of the overall novel.

 

That would imply that you are suggesting a tag def modification,as the current one is being misunderstood. Am I right?

While your point is kinda valid, I would say that this tag would be hugely misused.
Every protagonist is underestimated at some point in a CN....it would be too generic.

That seems like a. Confident protagonist to me..

 

No, you do differentiante and it isn't just opinion because those tags have not been set for those novels I mentioned and the rest, but only to a particular subset which as a result forms its meaning. You can use Sudden Strength Gain for that, hence extending its coverage, the others would make no sense in that regard.

And sorry, but I'm definitely not arrogant or playing semantics, it's just you not even trying to point out the issue and instead repeating the same over and over.

So you didn't even read my first post, probably neither the third one.

 

The issue is:

We have no idea what you want.

That's the whole issue. We're doing a lot of guesswork to try and know what you want, but if you don't want to explain what you want, then nothing will come of it.

 

Cool then. I feel that you are telling that the current tag def is misleading, such that the novels that you mentioned are not getting these tags.
Valid point. I suggest that you either suggest an alternate tag def including the points you mentioned, or wait for some time till the staff gets to it.
In the mean time, you can add the tag to the required novels which deserve the tag as per the new def, which includes sudden talent bursts(?)
How does this sound??
PS: regarding your wording, I would like to mention to you that if a tag doesnt exist, it means that people don't understand it's significance. Basically, we are stupid.
Thus, to make a stupid person understand something, you need to explain stuff clearly so that we get you. Because if we get it if you just make a single sentence....I don't think we would have missed that tag over the past year or so.

 

There was crippled protagonist tag on NU , but it got removed. Why ? Use your logic. If MC stays crippled , how the heck he gonna cultivate. The story wont progress and author wont do this. Thus it doesnt matter if at one time protag is crippled since he will get better soon. Because of this , the importance of cripple tag is non existent.

We as reader mostly doesnt care how author writes about how MC and their cripple story. Yet you want to add few tag about of this. Unless you could come with convincing argument for adding this tag , it wont gets approved.

 

They could not Understand your previous posts, why would they suddenly understand your posts if you point back at your incomprehensible posts, Explain in clear, Concise English what you want.

I will now analyze your posts.

You say you want an 'Initially Inhibited Strength' Tag, Your wording is quite horrid though.

You also ignored the previous poster's Statements and repeated what you said.

Even though 'YOU' may get it 'OTHER' people might not get it when you are talking to others, you 'EXPLAIN' what you want clearly and precisely. We are not at the lab where a few keywords can be understood by your co-workers.

For example, a better version of your first post would be.

"I believe that there should be more accurate representations of tags, Weak to strong is too broad of a Tag to use as a Genre, and I would love to see Mini-tags that accurately describe what 'Kind' of Weak to strong (Including other 'broad' tags). I believe one of that tags that are missing is the 'Initially Inhibited Strength' tag, where the main character is seen negatively by society, but is confident in his own success, causing him to gain great power. "

I also would use a more polite tone, even If people do not get you, you are 'ASKING' for something, you should not demand them to unless you are a big-wig that profits novel updates, they don't have to listen to your demands. Write a convincing argument for the tag, rather than shoot down people with a blank retort and never trying to convince them.

EDIT: Do not use grammar as an excuse to shut down this post with a blank retort, It is because I am Tired and frankly, This kind of post does not need perfect grammar but grammar that you can understand.

 

*grumbles about the like limit*

 

I did it for yah~~

 

What exactly? The only missing piece was a more explicit indication that I want a new tag because this thread is not just for tag suggestions, That is an edit I canceled since a user replied within a minute, saying my entire post made no visible point, so I answered to that instead.

Here's how I would've edited:

Fixed two mistakes, and added the "gimme a tag" bit. Otherwise, the same visible points.

You've just used a different tag as an example in a wrong way. Weak to Strong is not too broad, it merely covers its own particular plot line, namely MC\s progress from weak to strong. It also often highlighted an existing power-based hierarchy, but we have an extra tag for that now, which is a lot more redundant.

Next, mini-tags, what are those? Tags that always point to short-term events, like Rape, Betrayal, Death of Loved Ones, Personality Changes, Sudden Strength Gain, etc. As you see they already exist. Or do you mean the use of broad tags for matters of short relevance in the story line, like it can happen with Transmigration, Revenge, .. basically all tags.

The last part is just you emphasizing specific example, which I covered in the exchange below, instead of using a more encompassing definition.

>... So, essentially, you want a tag in which the protagonist overcome his crippled condition due to his own efforts, not due to some external effort... Is that it?

>Although often that is the case or you can at least interpret it as such, it is not limited to mc's own efforts. It's simply an initial condition which the reader expects to end. What's relevant is that society considers him crippled but the protagonist hasn't lost hope, yet, or didn't even have a reason to.

In other words, you didn't mention one bit that I didn't already. If no one can understand the language above, I can't really help you. It's abstract so that those unfamiliar with the trope recognize the right nuance.

I also don't understand why aside from those responsible for tag management anyone else who hasn't read any of the affected novels like Eternal Martial Sovereign, Immortal and Martial Dual Cultivation, Undefeated God of War, The Portal of Wonderland, AGM, (Sword Moved the Ninth Heaven no translation added yet), etc. would chime in.
Those who actually recognize this plot device and could either confirm the idea or add their own thoughts, will never do so now.

 

Try to read my post first

 

Aside from Medical Doctor and Leegood, everyone that replied to you is responsible for tag management.

You however seem too unwilling to make any effort to make a suggestion that other people can understand though, so... *shrugs*

 

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