Cleaning up tags on NU V2.0

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  1. TrueAn012

    TrueAn012 Member

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    Here I have a suggestion,
    How about introducing ' no harem ' tag. It may be straightforward to avoid harem gerne on filters but, some stories are not focused on romance so it can't be classified as harem gerne but the MC would be surrounded by many females, by the core definition it's harem. Such stories are not tagged with harem, also for filter search this tag will be helpful.
    Like scribble hub here ' protag loyal to love interest ' too can be considered instead of ' no harem ' but those two are different, like imperial society a king might have harem and loyat to his queen at same time.
    The main point of this tag is to simplify filter search.
     
  2. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Magical Girl of Love and Justice』

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    No.

    Harem genre is there to be used. If a novel should have the Harem Genre and doesn't have it, you can add it yourself.

    We don't need a tag for something that is already covered by a genre.
     
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  3. Blitz

    Blitz ⛈️ awakened from the reverie❄️

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    Adding on to what Alice said, the story doesn't necassarily have to be the romance genre to be tagged with the harem genre. There's plenty of examples of such on the first few pages of series ranking and such.

    If you see a series in which the protagonist is surrounded by a cast of female characters who are romantically interested in them or otherwise fit the genre, just add it to the novel. Tags are a community based project, and it can't be helped if some series that should have been tagged as such are missing it
     
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  4. Silver Book

    Silver Book Active Member

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    Please add an “Influencer” tag



    Also a “system” tag. I don’t feel like a “system” tag on its own would be too broad because there are even broader tags like “Game elements” and “cheats”. I think it’s needed because the three different system tags that are currently available don’t apply to every system novel and “game elements” and “cheats” are too broad making it difficult to search for the system novels that I want to read.
     
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  5. elideli

    elideli keepin' an eye out

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    There's already a "Celebrities" tag that covers famous or well-known people.
    Afaik most novels that have Systems as part of the plot use the "System Administrator" tag since it includes any novel in which the protagonist has anything that could be considered a "system", regardless of what the system actually does for the protagonist.
     
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  6. Silver Book

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    I feel like live streaming and social media stories would better fit an “influencer” tag rather than a celebrity tag.

    Also system administrator doesn’t work because sometimes all the system does is mark progress, speed up progress or add another way to progress.

    System is needed as a tag separate from system administrator because it doesn’t fit that definition of “System Administrator instead of just System, which others has mentioned being too broad and vague. Administrator should be sufficient to imply that the System in question give task, reward or guide the MC in the story.” because as I mentioned earlier some systems don’t give tasks, rewards, or guidance. It doesn’t fit the definition that you gave of “System Administrator Definition: Where the Main character gains access to an "admin" system that allows them to have more control/abilities than regular people and people that have the non-admin system.” because of the systems that only mark progress, speed up progress or add another way to progress and if it somehow is supposed to I feel like that tag is improperly worded and is not in line with the definition of “administrator”.
    If there is going to be a catch all tag for systems it should be “System” rather than “System administrator”. System administrator should be a more specific tag for system stories where the protagonist is the administrator of the system.
     
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  7. sithkazar

    sithkazar Professional Screw Up

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    I was wondering if the tag "runaway protagonist" or something similar could be added? I have tried looking for an existing tag, but I couldn't find anything, so I apologize if I missed something.

    Also, if you can think of a better wording for the tag name that would be fine. I don't want it to be too broad. I am trying to target the novels were the protagonist is either unable to or chooses to avoid the major conflict, rather then fighting, for a large portion of the story. Escaping should be the major focus of the novel, not just a minor event or arc.

    I also don't want to confuse this with the "Lazy Protagonist" tag, though I could see some overlap. I am talking about MC's that sacrifice their current life and flees out of a strong motivation, usually fear.

    The definition would be something like:

    "A story where a MAJOR theme or motivation is the protagonist's attempts to runaway in order to escape their situation and abandon their current life. This can include external danger or romantic entanglements, as well as personal responsibilities."

    Examples would be "I won't Accept your Regrets", "Pride and Sanctimony", and "I Was Proposed By A Villain." The first two mention the MC's desire to runaway in the description. The third does not, but the process of planning and eventually escaping is a major plot point and motivation. That novel is why I would like to have a tag, so that they can be marked even when its not included in the summery.

    Please let me know what you think. Thanks in advance.

    Edit: It could be broken into two separate tags if that is too broad still. Something like "Escaping Romantic interest" and "Escaping responsibilities."
     
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  8. sithkazar

    sithkazar Professional Screw Up

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    I'm guessing all the mods are away right now? It is around spring break time and Easter. No worries. lol
     
  9. BriarOfMaharlika

    BriarOfMaharlika Well-Known Member

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    can we request "no bxg endgame" & "no romance" tag for completed novels? also "boys love subplot" ?
     
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  10. elideli

    elideli keepin' an eye out

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    BL subplot exists and is called Shounen-ai Subplot, there's also Shoujo-ai Subplot (GL) and Romantic Subplot
    As for "no romance", try filtering out novels with the Romance genre or tags that contain words like "___ Love Interests"
     
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  11. MasonMac

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    The smut genre tag does not reflect its definition, which would cover sexual content. For example, "S*ave Harem in the Labyrinth of the Other World" has smut locked, even though it contains sexual content. It makes the smut tag effectively useless for filtering out sexual content, or for people looking exclusively for sexual content.

    Yes, I am aware about previous discussion on this. No, I am not convinced. At the very least some kind of tag to filter out all sexual content would be good.
     
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  12. patient

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    Adult genre is for sexual content novels.
    Smut genre is for sexual content novels specifically targeted at women.
     
  13. MasonMac

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    Adult genre is also used for content that doesn't contain sexual content though. It includes violence and nudity.
     
  14. Westeller

    Westeller Smokin' Sexy Style!! Staff Member

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    My understanding is that "sexual content" can mean a *lot* of things. From "they have fade to black sex, once, two chapters from the end" to "this story mentions panties" to "they fuck like rabbits, half the story is fucking, in detail, I literally learned new things about fucking from the fucking in this story. Btw they fuck".

    Smut very explicitly means the last, making it ideal for people looking not for "sexual content" in general, but for porn with plot. If sex isn't a major focus of the story, it's not really smut.

    There may be some nuances with target audiences, style, etc to argue over. It's a genre, after all, rather than a tag. But that's the way I've always seen it: The emphasis is on the sex.

    You can absolutely exclude or include smut when looking for sexual content in a story and I'm honestly not sure how it could be construed as useless. If anything, it allows you to search for stories containing a certain level of sexual content or exclude those stories if you want sex, but not too much sex. If there is such a person.
     
  15. ihy

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    It's been probably discussed before but how about adding a lgbt themes tag? I read a lot of romance novels, let it be transmigration, regression or game system themed and those that have a FMC usually have a lesbian side character that aggressively pursues the FMC. Or they're just there to be a nuisance to the ML. These advances almost always ignored or shot down by FMC which makes the yuri subplot and love triangle tags unwarranted. But those characters are also prominent enough in the story telling so it shouldn't go untagged.
     
  16. Blitz

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    We do have these 2 tags.
    https://www.novelupdates.com/stag/shounen-ai-subplot/
    https://www.novelupdates.com/stag/shoujo-ai-subplot/
     
  17. EnuoFH

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    Can we get a Eldritch creatures tags or maybe just a Lovecraftian creatures(in case there is original eldritch creatures would be good) ? I'm sure there is lots of people that like eldritch stuff like me and there is plenty of novels that have a lot of eldritch-like beings or bring cthullu mythos directly and there isn't a tag that could be used for it
     
  18. LaDyViL

    LaDyViL New Member Staff Member

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    Never heard of it.
     
  19. MangoGuy

    MangoGuy Rambling Mango

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    Could you please define it a little better? I have heard this phrase being thrown around but haven't really understood it very well.
     
  20. EnuoFH

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    It's basically novels that have beings that are inspired on H.P lovecraft it doesn't need to necessary need to have the ones he made, creatures that cause people to go insane just by seeing it, monsters made of flesh with uncountable amount of tentacles, "gods" from outerspace that humans can't understand, "alien" beings that their entire nature can't be understood, thats just a very surface description the tags "dark" and genre "horror" simply don't fit since its much more specific, a few novels that come in mind that could get the tag would be

    https://www.novelupdates.com/series/reincarnated-cthulhu/

    https://www.novelupdates.com/series/escaping-the-mystery-hotel/

    https://www.novelupdates.com/series/im-really-not-the-demon-gods-lackey/