Discussion Clichés You Hate?

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  1. aintg

    aintg Fairy Queen of the Demonic Sect

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    One troupe that I often find annoying is how in triangle love, if the rival is a woman, she is always depicted as someone so vindictive and evil that she will destroy the FMC's life without thinking. Meanwhile, if the rival is a man, he may try to get the FMC's heart, but when he knows he doesn't have a chance against the ML, he is mostly depicted as someone forgiving and saint-like that "only wants happiness" for FMC. It's like saying that women are fickle while men always have girls flocking them. Even some BLs show this kind of troupe, and I'm just tired of it.
     
  2. Lissi

    Lissi 『Queen of Lissidom』『Holy Chibi』『Western Birdy』『⚓』

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    :blob_plusone: The difference between female third parties and male third parties is so big :blob_teary:
     
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  3. Fulminata

    Fulminata Typo-ist | Slave of Evil Inc. | Cactus Farmer

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    -MC in the age of 3 years old suddenly being able to read, speak 13456 languages, write, and use difficult words while other adults neat her do not question it and accept her advices without qualms. It's kinda creepy, and how could the parents not doubt if their baby has been replaced by evil alien twin?!
    - Idiot MC. It's really a struggle to sympathize with mcs with no brain cells. I mean, they don't have to be a genius, but at least they need to have common sense...
    -idiot MC who is overly loud and likes to scream their ideologies.
     
  4. Shizukani

    Shizukani Sparrow ⸜₍๑•⌔•๑ ₎⸝ ⚓『Southern Bird』∠( ᐛ 」∠)_

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    I don't know if it's called a trope or cliché. But I hate those plots where there are evil step mothers/sisters or backstabbing friends who are super evil FOR NO REASON AHHHH like they are just evil? Why though? To be evil? For the plot? Ugh. smh :blob_pout:
     
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  5. rhianirory

    rhianirory Well-Known Member

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    I forgot one...
    amnesia/ memory loss.
    I'm reading through a bunch of horror infinite flow series and 96% of the MC have either lost their memory completely (and they were formally a bad*ss or a god or whatever) or the selectively can't remember the ML, but the ML remembers them about 80% of the time.
    it's OK once in a while but when its the same for 19 out of 20 stories, its beyond annoying.
     
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  6. writtenforcup

    writtenforcup someone, please love me (cake would also be nice)

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    dudeeeee, you get me. she's a girl? I'll still drop kick her ass
     
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  7. Nimroth

    Nimroth Someone

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    Evil stepfamily is such a common trope that it ends up seeming refreshing when a story actually present good ones.
     
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  8. Shizukani

    Shizukani Sparrow ⸜₍๑•⌔•๑ ₎⸝ ⚓『Southern Bird』∠( ᐛ 」∠)_

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    *nods nods*
    *glares at Cinderella* :blob_thor:
     
  9. elengee

    elengee Daoist Ninefaps

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    They made a mod for it, where all encounters are female and you do the same thing you do to the guys, like curb stomping, pile driver, literally stuff that would cripple or kill someone. (which is basically what most of the game is in a nutshell).
    They posted it on youtube and the crowd was going wild about it.

    Seriously if you want to be anti-violence be anti-violence, just not if it's only to your benefit. Not to mention, these people don't play the game nor do they have to watch the video about the mod but they still act like their human rights have been violated. :blob_coughblood:
     
  10. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhh [Water addict & sibling(s) protector]

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    Don’t even get those people sometimes. A games a game plus when you are in a real fight, nobody cares what gender you are. I get that people say “you should never lay hands on a woman” (which I’m fine with it to a certain extend), but as long as you are in a fight, they are going to hurt you or have another female fight you.
     
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  11. Bartzz

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    Boring MC without any interesting trait that easily got harem .
     
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    Someone who tries to stay low-key starts showing off their power for some absurd reason.... when a person close to protagonist is in trouble and they're saved miraculously by protagonist... FL falling in love with protagonist just because he has saved her once.... Well... There's too much actually
     
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  13. babybb

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    Maybe this is specific to those ancient Chinese rebirth novels but when the protagonist (usually a 11-14 yr old girl) is reborn and is all like “urrrggg I’m gonna get revenge!!” and is just kind of doing her thing, and then all of a sudden a 1000+ yr old deity/cultivator/spiritual being falls in love with her. Like bro, she’s a child. Even if she was a bit older before rebirth, she’s still in the body of a literal prepubescent child. Gross.
     
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  14. writtenforcup

    writtenforcup someone, please love me (cake would also be nice)

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    Which game is this? I wanna watch the video lol
     
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    The bland generic male mc(mostly japanese) who exist to spread societal propaganda such as
    - killing is wrong (nope only wrong against innocent honest folks)
    - being aggressive and violence is wrong (i'd trust this one over a schemer anyday)
    - hitting women is wrong (there's no reason to hit ladies but b*tches are not ladies)
    - selfless is right (only for generic mc who has no self to care for in the 1st place)
    - revenge is wrong ( bullshjt )
    Only these for now.
     
  16. Lord Rae

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    The two main ones that bug me (specifically in action stories) are:
    - MC suddenly decides to go on a robbery spree in a locked off location. Happens in so many cultivation novels. The most recent example would be God of Fishing. Which I really liked but the MC who spent the early chapters setting up a business to replace gangs and forbid them from robbing from people gets into a secluded area and then spends 100+ chapters going full "Your money or life!" on everyone he meets. Ditto for those MC's who suddenly start murdering everyone they meet.

    Or
    -MC finds themselves in an advantageous position over an antagonist and instead of taking their win then insists on overly punitive stakes. Example would be "Ok I'll give you 50% of the profits of my store for your cooperation!" MC "NO! I want 90%" I just don't get how being a jerk and always demanding the world for the slightest of reasons makes for an enjoyable read.
     
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  17. Szara

    Szara Your average American Psycho

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    Female love rivals that are poorly written. I just hate it when all other female characters (aside from MC) are evil, scheming bitches. It’s been a long time since I’ve read a story where the female MC has an actual female friend...
     
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    most of the japanese isekai shit.
    "eh? it's just [random OP skill] though? it's not that amazing."
    "hmm.. this loli slave is dying, but I like the look on her eyes, I'll pick her and obviously she's gonna be OP in the future. Doesn't work with male slaves though, unless this is BL isekai."

    also chinese novel with the insistence that their main characters need to be number 1 beauties and their ML need to be some weird ass psycopaths who are only soft to them. How is this male trope popular?
     
  19. MarxDarkBear

    MarxDarkBear The Great Man

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    Antagonist who only survive in the story cause the author wants to drag it as long as possible out. For example those stupid steph sisters/steph mothers/aunts/uncles etc that have an iq lower than the room temperature who shouldn't have survived past 5 years old keep coming back with their dumb schemes after hundreds of chapters just for the mc to retaliate and them surviving cause of plot armor or connections just to come back with the same dumb scheme.
     
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  20. oofpooflol

    oofpooflol [Specialist In Sleeping] [Holy Water] [Idiot]

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    Tropes I absolutely despise and can burn in the very depths of my oven:
    1. Where the MC’s harem members are just for show and need saving all the time and is absolutely useless
    2. Where there’s too much face slapping, like MC becomes famous and is at his peak, but then some dumb dude comes and messes with him, then the MC just steps all over him and shows off his prowess.
    3. Where the side character MC just suddenly gets the ML or Villain of the original novel to fall in love with her when the ML is either cold and unfeeling or has only eyes for the FL (original novel) while the Villain is either obsessed with the FL or is also cold and unfeeling. This trope makes the MC be too special.
    4. The super tyrannical and overbearing ML who just forces the FL to do stuff she doesn’t want to and is super possessive. I have one word for this dumb thing; annoying!
     
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