Discussion Clueless special snowflake enrages world with idiocy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ld-War-Two-hit-millennials-MENTAL-HEALTH.html
https://goat.com.au/instagram/wwii-...-to-learn-about-according-to-this-influencer/
I dont think i need to say any more because the link says it all

 

Not snowflake... more like opportunistic "can't accomodate a big piece of history in my small brain, so let's get rid of it altogether under the pretext of violence and irrelevance".

Seems like a shoddy attempt at justifying ignorance.

 

If kids don't learn about the Holocaust and Nazism, then white supremacists will have an easier time interfering with American politics:

As we have seen:
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.pr...-a-nazi-when-will-cnn-book-him-next-1.8085361

 

watching him injures my metal health more than wwii

 

Doing such thing would only result in increasing the number of fools and extremists

 

Yeah....

This post is political and is gonna get ugly.

*goes away to her happy place.....a CN novel!! *

 

So you're saying that America *should* stop teaching it then? Let's get this Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo started!

 

okay the topic is a hit and miss to begin with but while I won't agree with the douche, you have to realise just how big of a portion of a british childs education are hinged around very few and specific events.

WW1 and WW2 were horrific, and you can claim that to avoid repeating the past you must learn it, sure, but that's not a universal truth. people know about many of the horrific events of the past and not once has it prevented someone from committing a similar horror in modern times.

we are reaching the years where there are no longer any living soldiers from the wars and the closest living links are the immediate family who are now elderly, but go to a British primary and highschool and you'll find a good few years spent on educating children about only the biggest horrors of the past, roughly 2 years of history in primary alone is about WW2 and in highschool up to half of all your history lessons will be on the subject.

my school decided that when just learning about the 2 wars from multiple angles wasn't enough, they figured lets throw in russia, its revolutions and its roles in the wars as well, that was 3-4 more years of learning about 1 big event. the take away? I will never have a use for those lessons, because the mentally sound will learn of horrors and be too appalled to ever recreate them, but the mental unstable will look to them for inspiration, just like had they watched a gory horror movie etc.

there are hundreds of big events in history that are worth learning about, but we don't because the education board believes that making half of all your historical lessons be about 1 topic is considered satisfactory for exam scores. we would be lucky to cover even a single event in british history that isn't primarily occurring in another country (US, Germany, Russia mostly) or related to the wars.

the average british citizen knows less about their own history than an american citizen does about the USA's history.

nowadays any public speech on the topic, that isnt apologizing for the atrocity or blaming someone, gets attacked as insensitive or being in denial by special snowflakes who find moral outrage in differing opinions.

 

I would personally think the lessons of The French Revolution would be a very important topic to learn about because there you will find that just because a revolution to correct injustice and is made up of the underdogs does not mean they are particularly hinged mentally or in any way qualified to become a government. And how "free speech" and slander can kill people, like Marie Antoniette.

 

My view on the lessons almost bordered being devil's advocate back then as my perspective was different to everyone elses. I didn't see any punishment in my grading because it was all supported by the facts and was well written, but when everyone is being raised to think of Germany as a horrific place to be, I was looking at how Germany pulled off some of its most successful political, military and technological advances years beyond the rest of Europe and even at times the US. Lets not even pretend that the UK, US and other major powers have not pulled similar stunts in their own histories, but choose not to publicise them in the name of national patriotism. My final report was themed on the basis that had the advances been stopped before reaching as far as Poland then Germany would have pulled off the most successful usurpation of global geopolitical power in history, taking the centre point as the worlds largest power.

I would have preferred to learn more about japans history and culture, about true facts regarding china's history and culture, etc.

I also would not be complaining if people were given some real financial education. Because honestly, it's the most needed lesson for the majority of people right now. we will see major market crashes and collapses as often as we do, because only a small portion of people know how to manage their money properly. but when the media brings it up? "the social gap between rich and poor is increasing and the rich are to blame for hoarding all the wealth". Let's not forget that it's the poor who gives the wealthy their money, willingly...

 

The movie Idiocracy is right! some people are slowly but surely becoming idiots...

 

Some dumbasses think that if they pretend the world is a perfect place, it will become a perfect place. They literally believe that reality will conform to their wishes and that by convincing more people to pretend bad things don't exist, those bad things will stop existing. Authority figures absolutely love these kinds of idiots because they will willingly hand over all of their own and everybody else's autonomy for the illusion of safety and happiness.

 

Europeans already have a sense of this and I suppose Americans would too, but do you you how few British citizens even know how their own government functions, nevermind money? this is all happening here and now so by the same logic this shouldn't occur, and it's these same citizens who shout moral outrage when someone even tries to argue that education should be more educational and less fixated on individual pivot points in time.

I aced those tests back in school, and even I forget key dates and events that occurred now that so much time has passed not thinking about the subject, because I have needed none of the information to live my life. So yes, it's bad he couldn't back up his opinion with a display of wisdom, but he is part of a generation so far separated from those events that's it borders the ridiculous to suggest he should feel as if he was directly affected by it in the same way as previous generations that lived through the aftermath.

Millennials are constantly being targeted by mainstream media, who aim to make them seem frivolous, irreverent and disrespectful to the past with only thoughts of the present and future success. That is journalism knowing how to influence the thoughts of their readers by creative selection of which parts of interviews get focused on or put into print.

 

is that Freddie's screw lose?! xD

maybe he has overprotective parents who won't even let him see the color red from young.

I don't understand why these assholes behave like sentimental angels.

if children aren't made aware of death and war at a young age, they'll turn out like our beloved CN young masters XD.


anyway, sometime in their age teens have been to funerals, so they would have gone through that phase.

And the way the cartoons are improving, they are subtly introduced to deaths. If they are made ignorant to a blunder like WW1&2 there might be an increase in apathetic revolutionaries who'd do anything for " justice".

 

Cant see the video but reading the text it sounds like he wants more focus on learning personal finance and current issues that affects their lives and gave a poor example on what to cut down (but again I havent seen video, just out of conext text).

That said, I agree that we should cut down on useless topics taught in school(everythings), and learn important things like how to be proper human slaves of cats

 

Yes, absolutely. If not for ONE very narrow aspect of German government, a messed up foreign policy, Hitler's time in power would have been seen as a roaring success story. He pulled up their economy, turned their military around from a punitive treaty and increased production and innovation all across the board. But because he was aggressive towards neighboring countries (which were hostile to Germany mind you, the hostility was not all one direction), that was what he was remembered for.

If Nazism had stayed in Germany, the truth is, the rest of the world would not even have bothered about the genocides. "Peace in Our Time". aka You don't disturb us, we won't disturb you.

 

That would make more sense. But this guy is british. You know, the country that was literally at a 'stable' (ie oceanblocked) warfront for much of WW2(there were other fronts, but let's not get into those for now). Frankly, UK should and probably do teach a lot about WW2. I have no idea about France, whether they want to teach a lot or try to forget about it and just go over it generally or any other nation invaded by the Axis powers (although they probably go hard on the Axis powers, some rightfully so).
Germany probably really tries to either admit what they did wrong, or whitewash it to never mention it again.
Italy... yeah, let's not get into that.
Japan is wholly intent on either forgetting about the entire war or glorifying it, never admitting any atrocities they committed.
USA... probably the whole 'We won the entirety of WW2 on our own, and anyone else only helped out partially' teachings. They're still in their 'We're oh so great, we can't do anything wrong' phase as a powerful nation, but sooner or later they will have serious problems internally.
As for us Finns ... i'm not remembering all of it necessarily correctly, but we pretty much were taught as the war was divided for us.
1st War - Winter War : Russia wanted parts of our territory, including where we had our main defence lines, and frankly, anyone at that time who gave an inch to Russia then got their leg removed in essence, so they forged the war declaration through shelling their own side of the border, claiming we did it and then attacked us. We fought desperately, and managed to hold on for 105 days to everyyone's disbelief, before suing for peace, at roughly the same concessions as they demanded at the start. We had relied on the League of Nations, Western Allies and our Nordic friends to prevent the war or help us in it. They didn't, except for volunteers (most of them from Sweden (which also sent a sizeable amount of equipment) or Estonia).

2nd War - Continuation War : We got into this war primarily for 2 reasons. 1, we wanted our territory back. 2, Hitler was already invading Russia and I believe he had called us as his allies, so we were going into the war whether we liked it or not. Mostly a stationary war, as we didn't expand much further than our old borders and then fortified our positions there. We could've cut the Murmansk railroad, which would've dealt the Russians a large logistical problem, but we didn't. We could've helped Germany besieging Leningrad more, but we didn't. We wanted to make sure that we weren't seen as a german subordinate, but rather as a forced / valuable subordinate, and we did achieve that. Germany supplied pretty large amounts of equipment and up to 200k troops (mostly in the arctic region), but in essence, we were free to decide our own strategies for the war, and we did so in a manner to indicate it was as a co-belligerent of Germany, not as a member of the Tripartite Pact. Considering this war lasted 1941-1944, casualties compared for the time was somewhat low, but for our population amounts... pretty high. It ended when the Soviets really got going and started expelling Germans from their own territory. We held on and won a few important battles, suing for peace on the aftermath of those victories and got our peace at some cost, and the start of the 3rd war.

3rd War - Lapland War : While being told to demobilize our armies, we were told to expel the german troops at the same time. Not much is told about it other than that, except if you happened to live in the northern half of our country, which probably teaches more about it, considering they burned large parts of it while leaving and mined other parts.

But considering how many of our population at that time served in some form, pretty much each family who's been in the country from before it likely has atleast someone from either their paternal or maternal side having participated, except for age, health or other problems which prevented them from serving, or if they just didn't have any male members at that time within suitable age groups.

Let me put it like this. If anyone in finland in a similar position and situation said something similar, they would at best be considered as morons. At best. And that's an extremely flattering comment, considering the situation.

 

He's like those parents saying violent games are bad for children.

Also, that idiot's wearing a poppy. A POPPY.

 

Ah, that is one of the most infuriating things to me. It's mainly an american problem, but to a lesser extent it's also a british problem (they love claiming the efforts and achievements of commonwealth countries as their own).
As an Australian with a big interest in military history (especially my own nation's), it's one of the biggest things that is frustratingly common even today. I could go on a long rant but this isnt the time or place

To some of the "dissenting" posts, while i agree that practical things should be taught i disagree with not teaching about what is the biggest war in modern human history. It's a hugely important mega-lesson and properly teaching about it (with as little bias as possible) is necessary so that we dont forget the mistakes of the past and end up repeating them.
If space needs to be made in curriculums, ditch some of the new age PC rambling BS that is being shoveled into student's minds by self-righteous activists and sympathetic teachers. Then maybe you'd have young people who can cope out in the world and who arent fixated on the socialist delusion (which is a growing problem).

 

Civil War Eleven doesn't have the same ring to it though