Spoiler Cry, Even Better if you Beg

Discussion in 'Spoilers' started by flamingorangesoof, Jul 8, 2020.

  1. flamingorangesoof

    flamingorangesoof Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2020
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    617
    Reading List:
    Link
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 14, 2023
  2. Spoiler Curator

    Spoiler Curator Hi , Click Edit and Edit My Posts

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2020
    Messages:
    4,597
    Likes Received:
    6,369
    Reading List:
    Link
    [​IMG]
    Table of Contents

    Novel Update: Cry, Even Better if You Beg
    Fan Translation

    Read fan english translation at woopread.com
    Update: Apparently the fan translation did not translate truthfully to the original novel and added many self inserts which were not in the novel.
    Shared Universe: Bastian

    Original Novel Raw: 울어봐, 빌어도 좋고
    English Official Translation: Cry, or Better Yet, Beg
    Original Manhwa Raw: Naver Webtoon

    Original Webtoon Soundtrack: On the Platanus Road


    Author: 솔체 [Solche]
    (The same author who wrote, "Bastian", "My Fair Maid", and "The Problematic Prince")


    CEBIYB.png
    ┌────── •✧• ──────┐
    ༚ ༅༚˳✿˳༚༅ ༚ ꧁༒☬ CHARACTERS ☬༒꧂ ༚ ༅༚˳✿˳༚༅༚
    └────── •✧• ──────┘

    ─≍✤≍─∘∙❖∙∘─≍✤≍─
    ⊹⊱❋⊰⊹ MAIN CHARACTERS ⊹⊱❋⊰⊹

    ─≍✤≍─∘∙❖∙∘─≍✤≍─

    Male Lead [ML]Matthias von Herhardt
    Age: 24

    Female Lead [FL]Layla Llewellyn
    Age: 18

    Supporting Characters:

    Kyle Ettman
    Layla's childhood friend. He didn't come from an aristocratic family. But his father is Herhadt's family doctor. Kyle had a crush on Layla.

    Claudine Von Brandt
    She came from a noble background. Her family has a count title. Claudine was engaged to Matthias in order to improve her position to a Duchess. She never fall in love with Matthias. She was always in love with Riette but she prioritise improving her status in society than love.

    Riette Lindman
    He is Matthias's cousin and a Marquess in title. He was in love with Claudine. Though in love, he chose to support Claudine's ambition to be a duchess. When Matthias cancelled his engagement, Riette decided to propose Claudine again. However, he passed away in the war.




    ┌────── •✧• ──────┐
    ༚ ༅༚˳✿˳༚༅ ༚ ꧁༒☬ Q&A ☬༒꧂ ༚ ༅༚˳✿˳༚༅༚
    └────── •✧• ──────┘
    General and Plot Questions:

    Does anyone know how old is Leyla and the ML? | ANS By @Gjna_byzz

    Is this novel even worth reading? I heard the story is very toxic. | ANS By @Spidey1Fan

    What happens after she runs away?

    How did Layla's traumatic past affect the novel's progression? | ANS #561 By @moonlight07

    What does Matthias mean when he said Layla is 'nothing'? | ANS #701 By @moonlight07

    Why did Matthias not help Layla when she fell from the bicycle for the first time? | ANS #709 By @moonlight07

    ✤ What did Layla feel about Kyle? | ANS #634 By @mireimisty

    Why did Matthias and Layla made a deal? | ANS #598 By @mireimisty

    Who suggested the condition of the deal? | ANS #602 By @moonlight07

    How and why did Layla agree with the deal content? | ANS #610 By @mireimisty

    ✤ Did Matthias actually meet the lawyer to talk about breaking the engagement? | ANS #676 By @Spidey1Fan

    What Matthias was planning to give Layla if they go see the flower field? | ANS #680 By @kaori_miori

    Was Matthias about to inform Claudine about breaking his engagement? | ANS #671 By @Spidey1Fan

    False spoiler and what happens to Kyle (2nd ML) at the end?
    It's up to readers perspective if the ML rape Layla but it's true that Kyle walk in on them doing it. The false spoiler is that the ML was purposely making Kyle watch. But the ML did purposely give Layla a sloppy kiss in front of Kyle before he left leaving both Kyle and Layla to talk

    Matthias's behaviour analysis:

    Is Matthias manipulative with Layla? How did Matthias communicate with Layla? | ANS #833 By @mireimisty
    Was Matthias abusive to Layla? | ANS#912 By @Spidey1Fan

    Layla's behaviour analysis:
    How Layla's childhood trauma shaped her responses to Matthias? | ANS#911 By @HanieFireworks
    Did Layla truly hate Matthias? | ANS#914 By @mireimisty
    Did Layla ever feel comfort and peace from being with Matthias? | ANS#913 By @moonlight07

    ┌────── •✧• ──────┐
    ༚ ༅༚˳✿˳༚༅ ༚ ꧁༒☬ THE METAPHORS ☬༒꧂ ༚ ༅༚˳✿˳༚༅༚
    └────── •✧• ──────┘

    ✤ Canary
    1. Who is the Canary? | ANS #577 By @Spidey1Fan
    2. Why did Matthias name the Canary "Layla"? | ANS #605 By @kaori_miori
    ✤ Blue Candy - From colour of sadness to colour of happiness | ANS #815 By @moonlight07

    ✤ Rose
    1. Why Rose? | ANS #568 By @kaori_miori
    2. How does Rose resemble Layla and Matthias love? | ANS #586 By @moonlight07
    ✤ Arvis Greenhouse
    1. What does it mean when the Arvis Greenhouse was ruined? | ANS #609 @moonlight07
    ┌────── •✧• ──────┐
    ༚ ༅༚˳✿˳༚༅ ༚ ꧁༒☬ NOVEL PLOT ☬༒꧂ ༚ ༅༚˳✿˳༚༅༚
    └────── •✧• ──────┘
    [Review, summary or chapter's fragment]

    ✤ Naver Review [Post #27] | By @biha

    ✤ Naver: Ending of Main Story [Post #27] | By @biha

    Moments/Story in canonical Order (Summarized): by @Marcie
    Pt.1 [Post #72]
    Pt.2 [Post #75]
    Pt.3 [Post #78]
    Pt.4 [Post #80]
    Pt.5 [Post #83]
    Pt.6 [Post #88]
    Pt.7 [Post #92]
    Pt.8 [Post #94]
    Pt.9 [Post #95]
    Pt.10 Epilogue & Side Story [Post #96]

    *Most spoiler from Pg.1-5 have been added but not all*


    ###################################​

    Anyone is able to edit this post with an account. Please edit this post to link to spoilers in this thread as you find them. You are free to edit and remove anything within this post, including this placeholder text.

    For more information, please visit: https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/new-spoiler-plugin-for-the-forums.114103/
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2024
  3. SamSam

    SamSam class' ...pas class' !

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2018
    Messages:
    278
    Likes Received:
    2,176
    Reading List:
    Link
    true it's a beautiful cover but with 2 cages and 1 fl on her knees... can we imagine a sad story? What does the synopsis say?
     
  4. flamingorangesoof

    flamingorangesoof Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2020
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    617
    Reading List:
    Link
    I have no idea
     
    SamSam likes this.
  5. SamSam

    SamSam class' ...pas class' !

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2018
    Messages:
    278
    Likes Received:
    2,176
    Reading List:
    Link
    ok let's go for investigation ;)
     
    flamingorangesoof likes this.
  6. theilikepie

    theilikepie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    1,973
    Likes Received:
    10,856
    Reading List:
    Link
    What I got from mtl


    Herhart's masterpiece

    Arvis' young master like heaven

    Beautiful Bird Slayer Matthias von Herhart.

    His perfect life. Swallowed, crushed, shook

    His beautiful bird Leyla Lwellli

    . - The wings were cut, locked, and tamed.
    About all those actions to hold Leyla Lewellin Mattius did not hesitate.

    I didn't hesitate, so I didn't regret it. I didn't regret, so I didn't reflect. Since I didn't reflect, I didn't apologize.

    When his beautiful bird, Layla opened the cage and flew. Mattius decided. I'd rather kill it if it was lost forever and couldn't be recovered.
    Cover Lima

    Title Design _ Design Group Hundred



    Yandere story boyzz
     
  7. SamSam

    SamSam class' ...pas class' !

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2018
    Messages:
    278
    Likes Received:
    2,176
    Reading List:
    Link
    Spidey1Fan and flamingorangesoof like this.
  8. flamingorangesoof

    flamingorangesoof Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2020
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    617
    Reading List:
    Link
    I don’t like Yanderes but I’ll keep up with this anyway since I have no life and because I hate myself. *sad noises* ´༎ຶ ͜ʖ ༎ຶ `. I would’ve mtled a few chapters except I forgot my line password.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2020
    SamSam likes this.
  9. Sunflower_ sun

    Sunflower_ sun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2019
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    102
    Reading List:
    Link
    Korean Title: 울어봐, 빌어도 좋고

    Description:

    The Household’s masterpiece.

    The young owner of a heaven-like place called Arvis.

    The beautiful bird slaughterer.

    Matthias von Herhardt.

    His perfect life- completely swallowed, crushed, and shaken-

    by his lovely bird.

    Leyla Lewellin.



    Cut, locked, and tamed her wings.

    In order to keep Leyla Lewellin in custody, Matthias did not hesitate his actions.

    Because he did not hesitate, he did not regret.

    Because he did not regret, he did not reflect.

    Because he did not reflect, he did not apologize.

    When his beautiful bird, Leyla Lewellin, opened her cage and flew away, Matthias decided.

    “If I lose her forever and can’t get her back, I’d rather kill her.”
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
     
  10. hansora

    hansora Someone Who Seeks Fluff & Heartwarming Stories

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2019
    Messages:
    1,012
    Likes Received:
    1,321
    Reading List:
    Link
    the art looks nice and the earlier chapters seem good, but from the synopsis,:aww: it'd be a really heavy book I think

    waiting for spoiler
     
  11. Raihan345

    Raihan345 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2020
    Messages:
    290
    Likes Received:
    208
    Reading List:
    Link
    I am so found of this novel and looking forward how it is
    Is there any spoiler
     
  12. eksldpfwhdk

    eksldpfwhdk Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2020
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    8
    Reading List:
    Link
    Two characters will die in a war :(
     
  13. Deleted member 212141

    Deleted member 212141 Guest

    Reading List:
    Link
    The ML and the FL!?
     
    Trulycloudy likes this.
  14. DearBlue

    DearBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2020
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    592
    Reading List:
    Link
    I have a feeling it's gonna be Kyle... he's the perfect 2nd male lead

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Deleted member 212141

    Deleted member 212141 Guest

    Reading List:
    Link
    Currently I was going to Korean websites to get some spoilers, I am going mad here! Shit no story made me this obsessed!

    I think Leyla will participate in the war. Also Matthias will the tie a red ribbon to her it's not to claim her as a bird or a pet it's because so that she will come back to him no matter where she flies away (yes this one is correct spoiler)
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 25, 2021
  16. Raihan345

    Raihan345 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2020
    Messages:
    290
    Likes Received:
    208
    Reading List:
    Link
    Why he wants to keep her by his side he is sooo strange to me
     
  17. Raihan345

    Raihan345 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2020
    Messages:
    290
    Likes Received:
    208
    Reading List:
    Link
    He is seriously crazy why he is doing this things with her
    She didn't do anything to him
     
  18. Fictionaddiction

    Fictionaddiction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Messages:
    339
    Likes Received:
    1,013
    Reading List:
    Link
    Trulycloudy likes this.
  19. Gjna_byzz

    Gjna_byzz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2020
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    92
    Reading List:
    Link
    Have you download the app??? After you log in, they'll told you to download the app, i've tried but deleted the app, cause there's no translate in English, it was in Hangul, i can't read Hangul, so the app is useless to me, i wish i can read Hangul
     
    Trulycloudy likes this.
  20. Fictionaddiction

    Fictionaddiction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Messages:
    339
    Likes Received:
    1,013
    Reading List:
    Link
    I think it's useless for me because I wanted to use google translate and taking screen shots on the app would just take 7000 hours. honestly the translation would be faster since the translator gives out 1 chapter a day .