LCD Death Mage

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by lygarx, May 21, 2017.

  1. freeLoading

    freeLoading Well-Known Member

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    "So you call yourself Death scythe because you can stop people's heart just by looking at their face?"
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  2. Fragments of Shadows

    Fragments of Shadows [The Broken One] [Chaser of Tales] [Hungry Ghost]

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    Taking it a step further, even for the main characters it would take a second or two to destroy a wall and flying over it makes you an easier target. In a war or combat situation in this world where every second can mean the difference between life and death the little bit of extra time it takes you to deal with the wall can be a big deal (assuming there are people with similar strengths on the other side of the wall anyway). So for high level existences I would say that a wall (or several in the case of talosheim) serves more as a deterrent like a lock on a house to thieves... they can get through it but without a lot of planning and confidence in the situation it's too much of a danger to take the chance on dealing with it.
     
  3. Mesaphrom

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    And we are also forgetting that, one, Van taking the walls of the town at the beginning was a really big deal since it meant constant attack from monsters that, while they lacked the self-preservation of higher class monsters, it still means they had to defend from attacks without rest, so is important for everyday life, and two, the walls in Talosheim is both to separate the farming/monster districts from the others and to satiate Van's need to feel safe, remember that this is the guy that doesn't see himself as strong as he is because he lack muscles.
     
  4. Jay Corridor

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    Most importantly, walls are effective on the vast majority of the population (in human countries anyway), and truthfully the amount of A-ranked adventurers and similarly leveled monsters is pitifully low in comparison. Think of the walls of Talosheim being similar to an ant-repellent- and a highly effective one at that. Spies (who are generally not A-rank or higher) do not have much of a chance in getting past the walls or even surviving a couple seconds in the city. I mean sure, someone of S-rank can just come in and wreck the place, but for the vast majority of people and monsters trying to break into the city is a death wish.
    And since armies are made up of basically 'normally' leveled people, walls are a great way to keep them out.
     
  5. kari-no-sugata

    kari-no-sugata Well-Known Member

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    I think the usefulness of the walls depends on various circumstances.

    One is purely a deterrent (assuming people on the ground know) - by providing something so imposing it can reduce the chance of attack in the first place. How likely that it depends on the potential attackers but Van has already made it clear that he's well beyond what a small country can hope to take on. Simply having something that overblown can instil a certain amount of fear - if something that crazy has been prepared in clear view, just imagine what is hidden. That could be significant for anyone who knows what happened the last time anyone attacked. The more "expensive" and risky it will be to attack the harder it is to justify.

    Another possible usage is a way to buy time: let's say someone attacks while Van is not there (difficult but not impossible). The harder it is for a strong enemy to attack deep into Talosheim quickly the more likely it is that Van or his allies could respond in time.

    Another usage is to drain the enemy of resources/energy. Even though a true A-class adventurer could surpass such walls with ease that doesn't mean that others with them can. If said A-class adventurer simply jumps over the walls (or whatever) and tries to attack Talosheim itself directly, that means they'd be at a huge disadvantage in terms of numbers even if an army came with them (ie they would have isolated themselves). Considering Talosheim has many very strong adventurers that would be a rather suicidal approach so unlikely to be used unless the attackers are truly desperate. In other words the attackers would most likely to take a careful approach and try to destroy the walls enough to get the army in but such a feat would take a lot of time and energy, particularly since they would be under attack at the time.

    Of course there are limits to everything. Let's say the attackers managed to gather 10 or so true A-class adventurers to attack. In such a scenario the walls aren't going to make much difference. But is such a thing very unlikely to happen - even the biggest country around would struggle to justify such a thing. For a start it would leave them highly vulnerable to attack from others. Maybe the Amid Empire will try such a thing eventually but that would probably require Alda to basically order them to attack Talosheim with all their might.

    Could Van do more to improve things? Sure, it would be really expensive but he could make a wall of his Demon King carapace which would make it hard for even A class adventurers to damage it. He could turn the ground all around the area into golems. Maybe he could use the tried and tested moat of fire as well (though that would cause air pollution and Van cares about quality of life).

    Then there's what Van will actually do next which is rather interesting :D
     
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    Talking about imposing, remember that Talosheim was originaly the city of Giants, meaning that the walls are tall for a 5(?) meters (~16.5 feet) tall adult giant, so it is even bigger than normal walls, and those from the empire should know that anyone who dies in the siege becomes another enemy to fight and even if they somehow get around all of that, there is still Talosheim citizens, citizen who are all (except child- really young children) capable of fighting in some measure even without the cursed armors.


    EDIT: Don't you just love how we are actually discussing about how effective are the defences of Talosheim in Lambda compared to Origin/Earth?
     
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  7. Shiraori_

    Shiraori_ Heh, nothing personnel, kid.

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    Can't wait for the next chapter. Want to see the panic at the rest of them seeing someone die in a realm that's supposed to be unreachable.

    Either way, what happens now? His spirit dies in Rodcorte's domain/purgatory, so does he just spawn again in the same area? Or does dying in purgatory do something weird?
     
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  8. cesarakg

    cesarakg Well-behaved extinct species.

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    The bad part of telling everybody about Rodcorte... He get some access to your home.
     
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    Not that you mention that, Van told pretty much everyone of the original party about Dickcorte. But if he continue telling everyone about how much of a piece of shit he is, wouldn't Rodpoop identity as the God of Reincarnation change eventually? Well, I guess he would need to spread the word in other planets and Van still call him a god of reincarnation so it would take a lot of effort.
     
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    That fool got smoked forever. Soul Status: BROKEN.
     
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    He died, that is his reward :blobdevil:

    Now, they will know how dangerous Van is, he will become their nightmare :blobthinkingsmirk:
     
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    Thing is they are wrong to think that multiple walls are overkill. Actual castles do have multiple walls(example: concentric castles).
     
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  13. Shiraori_

    Shiraori_ Heh, nothing personnel, kid.

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    oof
     
  14. HiroBlaze

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    By Rodcorte giving them mana its kind of like lending a familiar spirit to them, so that probably explains how godslayer leveled up and how he reflected it back tot divine realm. Van used Ereshkigal's Counter Curse ability (well it manifested from Van's mana) and extended it to others with his spirit clones.

    I always thought of the Talosheim's walls like security checkpoints like how many corporations have security enhanced entrances to the main buildings in order to prevent social engineering attacks, espionage, etc. It also serves as a warning to trespassers coincidental or intentional. If Van choose google creator or labyrinth creator jobs, then the defenses will surely improve beyond doubt. But the current defense could probably stop the army of a small or medium sized country. The deadliest biological weapons Van has are his diseases, which are hard to detect.

    I think the two people that Van saw that couldn't do anything but make the "x" sign and shake their heads were the angel familiars. Since they can't really oppose people imbued with Rodcorte's mana and they were the only ones unable to do anything at that moment.
     
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    FussyBadger Well-Known Member

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    I've started re reading the early chapters this week and I was paying a little more attention to the story about the gods of Lambda. Anyone have an idea of why only 7 champions were summoned instead of 11 (One for each major god)?
     
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    Nakakure #GP2019

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    Dunno but the original god seem only 7 or 8,
     
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    There were 11, 8 elements + Beasts, Dragons and Giants.
    My guess is the racial gods (beasts, dragons, giants) could not pair with a human champion, and was it Zuruwarn who opened the portal, he probably could not due to the needs of holding that open.
     
  18. FussyBadger

    FussyBadger Well-Known Member

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    It looks like the beast god Ganpaplio before the summoning but I was still curious as to why others didn't. I can't remember which gods were the summoners for people either but I put what I could remember in ()
     
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    We haven't gotten a skill description for God Slayer have we?
     
  20. NeurogamiPrime

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    is god slayer the one that causes damage to people's mana when he attacks as a passive skill, or is that soul breaker. one of them has an extra passive skill that does that ability, but i'm not sure which one.