LCD Death Mage

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by lygarx, May 21, 2017.

  1. Katherine

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    Maybe that will happen, because there is no way he can Nullify Great Gods Magic that has mastered and endowed with law and their own divinity
     
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    Because he have magic resistant lv 7 right now and no word "Damage" in there, maybe it will be awakened to Magic Nullification. and there is no way the Author will make Van have that kind of Inability if get that skill, so it must be only effected to any magic that have intent to hurt him and negatively affected him. and maybe just like Jubjub3000 said, it only applied to certain power lv magic and maybe the skill effect decreased to High lv Gods Magic and magic that reached similar to that lv, and Further Decreased to a Great Gods Magic
     
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    I'm not certain about that; we've seen Van "destroy" Alda's authority/magic when he freed Vida from the stakes and Bellwoods artifacts. These should have been created with their Authorities. something similar to if not outright magic (limited to Gods). So it could be entirely possible for to negate the magic of gods should he gain such an ability.

    True; it most likely will become Magic Nullification. Then taking that into account how would one eliminate the inherent weakness pointed out earlier. I think the author might just do that; create a skill that actually gives Van a huge disadvantage on paper. Remember; the demon king fragments inherently make it impossible to use magic simultaneously with the fragments. So why does this not apply to Van who should suffer from the same inherent weakness? As i said earlier; I think it is entirely possible for the author to give Van a skill that has such a huge demerit on paper. However; at the same time Van is already breaking the rules in regards to what can and cannot be done when it comes to skills, magic and even the demon lord fragments. Who is to say that Magic Nullification would have any effect on Death Attribute Magic, an attribute completely foreign to Lambda.
     
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    About Demon King Fragment, like Demon King Horn and Carapace, did Van already tried to compress it, beside just using large amount of mana to summon a lot of it? If he try using a bit science[like atomic bonds,hexagonal atomic structure and so on] in Horn and Carapace while compress it and Reinforce the Atomic Bonds with magic, it will greatly increase the Hardness, Durability, Sharpness and so on. It will become more easy for him to create material that more powerful than Orichalcum and other metal that higher than it.

    And if success, he can try experiment with his Bones, Flesh, Skin and Organs, It will be interesting using that method to increase his stats without Leveling!!!:blobjoy::blobjoy:

    Then he try to reinforce his Bones, it success!! his STR Increase by 50%, His Vitality increase by 30%, Agility increase by 15%, Stamina increase by 25%:blobhero::blobhero::blobjoy::blobjoy::blobjoy:

    Ding!
    (System: Congratulation to Player Vandalieau For Creating Mythical Skill Atomic Lv Reinforcement! Fame+1000.000.000, Exp+1000.000.000, Gold+1000.000.000 and you receive a prize Lord of Everything Ring[Myth][Slot 7][Socked 0/10]):blobjoy::blobjoy::blobjoy:
     
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    I think even if he got magic immunity he would still get damage when hit by magic... Like fire damage when hit by fire magic or blunt damage when hit by mana bullet spell... After all even a single spell should be able to deliver a lot of different kind of damage, like even if a sword fail to cut because of cut damage immunity it's not like the force behind the sword disappear into nothing...
     
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    magic are made out of mana, the mana scatter and erased when touch him, or even before touch him if he have that skill, beside magic attack, Curse like Petrification will also invalid, Genjutsu/ Illusion will also Invalid, debuff will also invalid, just imagine it as a boss monster that you can't Damaged and CC when it using certain skill, or entering Invincible mode when entering Story mode or casting some Magic/ Skill that let the boss entering Invincible mode .
     
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    Magic resist is useful for element resistances provided the attacks come from magic. Sure the other reincarnators aren’t likely to cause lightning damage through mundane means. But fire damage? Oh so many ways. Plus if they take a little time and find the right metals 1200F isn’t a hard goal to reach. Heck possible they could break the 10,000F line if they don’t mind igniting all the air.

    Van and crew are preparing full paranoid convinced that anything is possible. So why turn down extra resistances?
     
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    I don't believe Van has attempted this or even thought to attempt this feat. We have to remember; his overall knowledge which spans over 30 years is about the equivalent of first or second year middle or high school student. It's not that he can't perform such things as you mentioned it's that he doesn't know the process or even outright know that he may be capable of such a feat. Van's knowledge is limited to what he learned in school, on television and from the souls of the scientists of Origin.

    Magic Immunity/Nullification would eliminate the spell the moment it makes contact; this would include all phenomena related to the spell whether natural or unnatural. This is due to the fact said phenomena is brought forth by magic; it's powered by mana. This is why status effects would also be negated as the mana that would create and sustain them would be extinguished by Magic Immunity/Nullification which by definition eliminate or prevents any and all phenomena created by magic. Now if a you create fires from missed shots of a fireball spell; then one could argue that these flames are no longer a paranormal phenomena but a natural phenomena and could potentially damage Van. But would one take the effort to waste their mana in creating collateral damage that would do far less damage then the spell that was used to create it? I think not; there are far more efficient methods such as physical and psychological attacks. Magic is just one of many forms of attack; eliminating one method of damage does not eliminate all methods.

    I agree; let alone Van, anyone in Lambda with half a brain should take whatever resistances are available to them that would prove useful in the long run. But you have to remember; it takes a great deal of time to acquire resistances. Look at the vampires Elenora and Miles, it took dozens upon dozens of blood potions and days if not weeks to acquire even one level of sunlight resistance. Acquiring a resistance is only half the battle (and a long one at that) one must also raise the resistance to a level where it will prove effect in combat and everyday life.
     
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    Well, Legion can help him, but he still not ask about it until now and legion also not tell him yet, we need the Author to make an Episode about that, and Luciliano will also very happy getting that important knowledge. And this knowledge can also be applied to any weapon an armor, they can also trying to make a new powerful metal similar how to create a Superalloy and others Mixed-up metals for stronger, tougher, stretchier alloys.:blobhero:
     
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    Leveling up resistance skills involves hurting yourself in a particular manner over and over again, so I don't think anyone can be blamed for lacking them...
     
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    It's a bit criminal though that neither van or the vampires are training those skils though, since they have both the resistances AND high speed regeneration, plus the blood potion. Stop friendly fire! style.
    Also, van should have definitely worked more on silent and simultaneous casting given he was practically made to spam spells using those skills.
     
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    What do you mean, that's all he does he's never (since gaining silent cast) cast a spell with the chant.

    Masochist op please Nerf!
     
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    Yes, but has he ever, after he first did it when he was a toddler, just gone out of his way to spend days on end spamming spells with all his heads and silently. He did it at first when he first got those two skills, but the stopped because he got busy. But now he sometimes has months on end free to train. Not to gain lvs necessatily but just abuse his absurd mp pool. Which would also train his mana regen skills.
    Like, spam his ghost elemental magic simultaneously and silently at his vamps who in turn spam their magic at him while getting supplemented by his magic, like he once did to zadiris, which is how SHE got those two casting skills.
    And, while doing that, share his mana with as many peeps as he simultaneously can to train his parallel skills and mana, and thos geting fed with his mana get to also spam magic to train.
     
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    Van isn't the training freak kind of character. His power gains are all very passive and nonchalant.

    Actually, all his actions are very passive and nonchalant, but that's a whole different story.
     
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    Legions knowledge (Hitomi excluded) is even less than that of Van's as they spent most of their lives as guinea pigs in the laboratory in Origin. Hell; one of them is an actual bear. They most likely have a cluster of information gathered hastily and with many assumptions that was gathered after they were freed. Remember; their primary goal after breaking out was to perform the most glorious suicide ever shown while taking out as many Bravers as possible. I believe gathering knowledge for improving their scientific prowess was not even on their to do list. and Luciliano's knowledge is limited to that of Lambda's which under Alda's rule is equivalent to the pre-revolution France. Van and his allies simply lack the basic knowledge to even think of modifying at an atomic level; right now Van is just starting to test things out on a microscopic level with him bacteria. Perhaps in time he may learn to do so through trial and error; but I believe that will take hundreds if not thousands of years (which Van has plenty of).

    I believe Van and his allies aren't all that focused on building up resistances as they are more offense oriented when it comes to single combat. In large siege battles and military battles; yes, defense comes into play for them but even them it relies mostly on physical fortification through defensive equipment and physical abilities. From what I can tell; Van and his allies simply don't put much focus into resistances as they prefer to eliminate the enemy before they themselves are hit.

    Van actually doesn't have as much free time as you think. He is continually creating new foods, tools, laws, etc for the betterment of his kingdom. Even when he was going through the Trial of Zakkart; he wasn't just sitting in Sam's carriage staring off into nothing. He was thinking on all of the issues he will have to deal with during and after the trial. He is constantly working on plans to deal with Alda, Rodcorte, the Reincarnators, Heinz and even other nations such as the various duchies of the Orbaume Kingdom. Van may look like he has free time in between large scale events but inside his head he is actually driving himself to exhaustion in creating plans and safety measures to ensure that the wealthy and safe life he desires for himself and his people can continue. With all of that he still manage's to somehow include training for himself in the use of his magic, experimentation of new undead and looking after his mothers growing body. We haven't even taken into account the frequent meetings he has with the gods of Vida's side; because I'm certain that Van is the type of person who would consult with them on a regular basis in regards to how to proceed with anything he may believe as questionable in his allies eyes. To summarize; Van actually has far too little time to get anything and everything he needs to get done but manages to make it work thus far.
     
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    I really worried that the reincarnators on van's faction might revolt, because I honestly don't feel that they're trustworthy and most if not all reincarnators are selfish and won't hesitate to get rid of van if they feel like he'll lose, or at least change factions against him.
     
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    So, we are back to 2-3 weeks of release time? -_-
     
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    You know maybe sometimes we need someone to drag Densuke here to answer our questions about how certain skills work...
     
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    I mean, the guidance skill makes them loyal to Van and even made them not find Legion particularly abhorrent or anything, even though they knew the people who Legion once was. That triple guidance skill definitely changes people/monsters at their very soul, as evidenced by their drastic shift in values and the shift over to another reincarnation circle.

    I'm also worried that they'd do something stupid, but it would definitely be a well-intentioned mistake if it happened. They're clearly very loyal.
     
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    Van Want Some of her Muscle and Transformation

    That kind of Muscle is called Pink Musle by Akisame Kōetsuji
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    Not something like this
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    so he can still be Handsome, Slim and Packed with Pink Muscle.
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