LCD Death Mage

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by lygarx, May 21, 2017.

  1. Feng Tian

    Feng Tian Well-Known Member

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    He could change most things, but whether he is willing to pay the price for that is questionable. And even then Lambda might not be able to deal with the fallout.

    Getting rid of the status system:
    Requires killing Ricks subordinate gods, which in return likely requires Alda to take Rick's and Zuru's domains upon himself. Thats two greater gods dying right there.

    Getting rid of the monsters:
    Requires destroying two reincarnation circles. One of them needs Vida to die, the other one is a mess. Either way he definitely needs Rodtards help for this one (hacking them and stealing all the souls).

    Getting rid of everything not human:
    Well, divine genocide right there. This is probably the least problematic part in this entire mess but also fairly pointless until the monster reincarnation circle is gone (Vidas would presumably just run out of things to reincarnate into at some point).

    So all in all its presumably technically possible, and in reality only failure awaits that lunatic.
     
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    The status gods are in a place where not even Ricklent and Zuruwarn can access anymore. Alda stealing their authorities wouldn’t help him there.

    Getting rid of all monsters would require purifying every single devils nest and dungeon. And remember that there are large sections of the sea and even sky that have become devils nests. Basically it’s impossible for Alda’s priests to purify those areas. Hell right now the only reason some of those areas aren’t expanding is because of the merfolk, a Vida race. Zantark and them are likewise keeping the dark continents devil nests from expanding toward the main continent.

    And again to actually kill a god would require soul breaking. Even with no followers, a god can come back after hundreds of millions of years. He would have to stake them and kill all their worshippers which would basically mean killing all mage guilds since all of them are primarily Ricklent worshippers.
     
  3. Feng Tian

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    Rick can't communicate with them, yes, but Zuruwan's and his powers combined might be able to (unless they are beyond time and space, which is even less possible than Aldas attempt at turning back time.). Killing all mages would be possible for Alda, so long he does that after wiping out the monsters. The preparations required for that are likely beyond Albas thinking capabilities tho. He would require an unreal amount of subordinate gods to deal with the fallout, and entire legions of high end followers to do his bidding. And, worst of all, Rodcorte would have to do something properly for once.
     
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    Let me add another nail to the coffin. Alda wants to return to the time before the DK came. That means when his siblings were all alive. Some of them are already dead and for his plan he needs to go over the others, so completely impossible.
     
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  5. Feng Tian

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    Yeah, getting the world into that state is one thing, but he would kill off most gods and living things in the process. I ain't arguing that he isn't crazy btw. Its just that it isnt as impossible as people make it out to be (aka impossible in concept).
     
  6. CountryMage

    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    If he put the effort into it, that he puts into all these silly world development schemes, he could probably have hacked into the reincarnation circles. Instead, he just told Alda what he wanted to hear, that reversing the corruption of his world required the destruction of everything tied to DK, including all monsters and monster related Vida races.
     
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    and what Rodiot wanted to say.

    Rod is not exactly an unbiased expert when discussing reincarnation cycles, he wants his to be the only option.
     
  8. Feng Tian

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    Yeah, thats the issue. Rod is unfathomably lazy. He needs others to adjust to him, and not the other way round. Even slight disturbances in the system are a complete pain to deal with as it is kinda sewn on edge. There are no backups, no reserves, nothing. He also doesn't like sharing for obvious reasons. If two or more circles are active within one of "his" worlds every shift towards the other circle will mess his system up. He also gains power with every soul, and for him sharing ist most certainly not caring. No wonder why Vida wanted to ditch the shitter, even at the price of working with a much smaller and thus far less balanced system.
     
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    Sorry if I got some peoples hope of new chapter up but no not new chapter just a thought. I know that one of Amamia's cheats is the ability to ignore defense's but what does that imply. Does it ignore flesh and go to the heart, brain, or whatever or does it ignore magical and nonliving defenses like armor or barriers. This is important because Banda is basically made of living armor so would it be effective on Banda or not. Thats my question.
     
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    It differs from world to world. In Origin it basically negates the atomic bonds holding molecules together, thus making it stupidly OP as it basically destroys everything in it's trajectory. In Lambda it would (we presume) function similar to orichalcum weapons or DK fragments, enabling it to bypass resistance skills and punch clean through barriers and armour, thus striking at the opponent's vitality pool directly instead of having to calculate a bunch of modifiers.

    In regards to Banda, if Banda materialised then ignore defence would absolutely one-shot him like it does everything else in Origin. However, ignore defence doesn't force immaterial things to become material, so Banda normally couldn't be targeted to begin with, even if Amamiya knew he was there somehow.
     
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    Even if Hiroto shot Banda with it, It would ignore defense and hit him and do damage but that’s all. Banda isn’t a human to die just because he got shot through. Also he still functionally has the strength of Van at the time he was created. So high speed regeneration amongst a lot of other things are built in to his body.
     
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    I think it was highlighted in a chapter earlier that that was the biggest problem that he would face is that Lambda has a status system with vitality and so that makes thing that ignore defence not as useful as it does on Origin where anyone with ignore defence can kill easily oneshot someone, whilst on Lambda they would still have to be able to do damage equal to their vitality.
     
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    Actually mow that he meets up with Van (like in last chapter) he upgrades to the abilities of the current Van.
     
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    Even so, the vitality does not pass from one world to another, in which case an impact from any Hiroto attack would be like an attack on a normal human, that if, even so, it would be hard for Banda to die even if they destroy his head, because at the end of the day he is nothing more than a couple of pieces of Van with his own source of mana, even if the attack damages the spirit, it is Van, his spirit is like slime, he will reassemble or create a new one
     
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    Indeed, he is a spirit so he doesn't have any vital points for 'ignore defence' to show it strength
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    Didn't Van already test how much of his level and vitality from Lambda translated over to Origin, when he dropped Banda off, or when he came for the Pepsi? Plus Banda's defense of the kids, was also to test his limits. Pretty sure he's sturdier than that world would normally allow.
     
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    better question: Why would Hiroto shoot Banda?
     
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    Stereotypical father meeting his daughters boyfriend reaction, magnified by super powers and cheats?????
     
  19. blue skywolf

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    If Hiroto ever see's Banda near his kids I'm pretty sure the first thing he would do is attack thinking he's protecting his children from a monster.
     
  20. biggusthiccus

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    I'll do you one better. Considering that Vandaleiu saved Narumi's life, and that led to sexual tensions with Hiroto, what would happen if she met the real thing? I suppose that could be another.