The stupidest part about the logic people like him use to call out Van's actions is that they completely fail to realize that his actions are completely just and the preferred solution to a problem that others have caused. Van is the legitimate ruler of Talosheim, a King, which is superior to a mere Duke. He has the "Just Cause" to declare war on the Hartner Duchy, burn it's cities and towns to the ground, and execute it's ruling nobility, for crimes against it's royal family and it's people. This is what a human nation would have done. Van took the high ground and only hurt those who committed the crimes and spared the innocent. If not for his restraint Borkus and co. would have killed everyone in the Duchy. How can they fault him for hurting the assholes at the top causing the problems? I guess it's because it is more proper for human nobles to let thousands of innocent people die for them then simply taking responsibility for their actions.
I don't think problem is "fail to realize", but problem is "have different world view". This is like this nobles, they know good and bad actions, but they will complain if you do good, but who is bad for them. It is like issues related to euthanasia or death penalty. Here are different views about them, so people with different views will never find compromise and opponents view will be evil from they perspective. This don't have relations to good or evil.
I think for Pablo it was like 'You're just making things worse for them. Also, you are tricking them into fighting alongside bloodsucking evil monsters and Alda blah blah blah" whereas for Aran later it's more like "If you don't work with the serial killer, you won't be able to coordinate with the Orbaume forces." The latter was actually right, too: Van DID fail to achieve his goals in Sauron as a direct result of killing Rick Paris. He just didn't care (much) because he has other options and he got all of his own people out anyway.
I often see proverb: With great power comes great responsibility All the time I see it I think: What great Bullshit is this? And I change this proverb in my mind to: With great power comes great pleasure. Because if I get great power it means I had worked greatly to get it (trained a lot; studied a lot, risked a lot) and I did not did it to become someone else's slave. I did all this for myself and my family, not for some strangers I don't know. And in first place it is bad idea to require great responsibility from someone with great power, because he may agree. If he is capitalist, he will make everyone capitalist, if he is socialist, he will make everyone into socialist. And if he is Buddhist, everyone will need to look like this All roads in city will look like this, because Buddhist with great power will take great responsibility and save everyone by forcibly converting everyone to Buddhism. This only apply if power comes from him himself, but if power comes from people around him it is different story. Van have great power and he takes great responsibility to safe everyone, but in his own way, because he believes it is right way and this will give most benefits to them. But not all agree to Van way of saving others and call it evil.
I agree with most of what you said~ Tho perhaps my interpretation of the proverb is a bit different and i think it matches better with the novel With great powers come great responsibility in my view doesn't mean that you have more duties simply because you are powerful, but rather, since you are powerful any of your movements have bigger impact, and as such the reactions for your movements are greater. An good example of that is: - A normal man throws a stone to the horizon from the top of his house Since the man is weak it doesn't have much impact on the surrounding and he doesn't have to shoulder anything Now a second situation: - superman throws a stone to the horizon from the top of his house Since superman is freaking powerful the stone is launched with such power that it can easily kill a person, destroy a building or make an airship fall and he has to shoulder any of those things if they end up happening. See the difference? While I agree with you that the idea that having power means you need to use it for good or to help others is bullshit Having power does give more responsibility cus you can screw up way more things without even trying
If you look from this direction, yes, it is right. But it would be more accurate to say not responsibility, but great precaution. Like in Markus Persson case in controversy section. If I or you wrote something on Twitter about feminism, no one would give a shit about it. But because Markus Persson is "great" known person, his writings and option have huge influence and he needs to take greater precaution in revealing his option.
Hmm~ Not really i think? I mean, my interpretation is more literal and more in line with physics than sociology XD Every action has a reaction and that is a law of nature, so you literally have to deal with the consequences, even if you are pushing the fault to another person/thing, the very act of pushing it around is technically a form of dealing with the consequences And precaution doesn't have that connotation, it just means that you should to be more careful (which is true), but you are not forced to be careful So TL DR: With great powers comes great responsibility, is a more factual than philosophical With great powers comes great precaution, is a advice rather than a fact~ ^^)/
But you take precaution because you are responsible for your actions, that's why it's responsibility Like in civil liability
Sorry, @Arha, but the text disagrees with you. Pablo does indeed think that Van is a literal demon for coming to the aid of over a thousand innocent refugees against the orders of Lucas Hartner that even he knows are unjust and unreasonable, and he thinks it's an act of insanity because he can't think of any strategic or tactical value in Van's actions, and Van isn't acting in a way he personally thinks a "hero of Justice" would act, not even when Van specifically points out that what Pablo's seeing is retaliatory to the crimes done in the name of "the absolute authority of the Hartner Duchy." As for Aran being right about killing off Rick Paris being a bad tactical move? Short term, yes. But a guy like that being left alone to stew and fester in his self-righteous grudges, despite the fact that he and his brother are completely unrepentant for a slew of heinous crimes, is only going to cause much, much bigger problems down the line, and it's best to get rid of him early and eat the short term loss than to go for a short term advantage and then wind up with a dagger in your back one morning.
Yeah I know what the text said. That's just how I interpreted it: "You are a monster for getting them to kill us because they can never stand up to us, so now they're fucked." It's a position that doesn't make sense, though, given that there were no better options. It's either die/get enslaved or try to resist. The thing about vampires being icky has to do with the rest of the scene. I mean, if you don't read it that way, that's fine. I'm just reading between the lines a little. I'm not defending the idea not to side with Rick Paris. Just explaining what Aran and the other one were thinking. Besides, as an up and coming leader of Vida's faction it would honestly not be feasible to work with Rick Paris. The Scylla would not be okay with it and if they did accept it, it would only be because of stuff like the Tentacle King title messing with their heads.
Hmm. I wonder why they're called Spirit Mage and Dead Spirit Mage? I'm not sure if it's because the text is really that, well, dorky or if the translators found themselves stuck with a term they'd picked like a hundred and fifty chapters before. They seem to be using different meanings of the word 'spirit' in that one is more like fairy or elemental and the other is just straight up ghost.
It seems kind of self explanatory, Spirit mage deals with spirits at least of the elemental variety(though more might have been mentioned/shown in story), while Dead Spirit mage deals with the spirits of the dead ranging from normal ghosts to the more elementally attuned variety.
I mean, I get that. I just find it to be odd naming sense. Dead Spirit is kind of redundant for what they're talking about in one sense (any ghost is a dead spirit) and the dead spirits in question aren't spirits (as in elementals) that are dead.
It's probably to differentiate it from the magic used by Spiritualists, and Spirit Mages. Spirits aren't always ghosts, some times they are just magic turned sentient, and sometimes they are just leftover memories. Van does similar things, but with the spirits (souls) of the dead.
who in their right mind gives Van a literally infinite time stopped item box? Imagine storing a ton DK parts like bones and suddenly knochen is unleashed upon the world as a continent sized behemoth. Or simply packs it full of materials he picks up from battles or old battlefields. A mobile army in an easily portable box. At this point i'm just waiting for Van to realize a childhood dream of piloting his DK version of a gundam he has the parts and he is a specialized cannoneer (wing zero Van version). Can a dungeon fit in the item box? Is it only inanimate materials? How many people can Van take back to his empire before the human nations notice? When will Van finally create that S rank dungeon? Will Van ever turn the boundary mountain range into a golem? When will Van transform into a Shonen? How insane will the fight be to take possession of the Van made silk plushie? One last question, when Van uses the scream skill is it still monotone?
Does Van even NEED an item box when the god of dungeons can port anything he wants straight to him? Other than a cover for where the item came from. When will Van become Shounen? Never, he'll stay Shouta till the author is ready for him to have kids.