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  2. R0

    R0 Why is it so hard to have a good aim?

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    Thanks, but I find it hard to follow since you're writing in paragraphs instead of using steps with bullet points etc. Nonetheless, it's a good guide.
     
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    Thank you for the feedback. I hope the guide will come in use to you. I have added headers in order to facilitate reading.
     
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    This is a good guide, and I really like line dictionary too.

    I feel the way to learn grammar would really be to read as many sentences as possible, the ones given in the grammar site are a good reference but insufficient on their own (they're not wrong, but there are many more ways the words can be applied), needs to be supplemented with reading. It's just one of those things you get better at the more you are exposed to it.

    And then there are phrases which aren't very intuitive, like 好不高兴, and then there comes Chinese idioms with their accompanying backstories...

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    Don't even get me started on Chinese Internet slang :sweating_profusely: you'll see them everywhere if you go by the webnovels route...
     
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    I agree for the slang and grammar part. Maybe solving that would be to read real novels or simple web articles first to get a sense of how grammar works, then when reading web-novels, the person could look up the definitions in Chinese on Baidu. The downside to reading novels would be the infinite amount of new Chengyu.

    I guess the solution for the unintuitive grammar would be on line there's an example sentence part, so you can paste a sentence part and see the bilingual example sentences. Not 100% accurate but it gives a good idea.

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    i will check this out
    sounds interesting
     
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    Thx for for the help
     
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    Interesting, thanks for the guide, I will check it out. It's good to know it gets better xD I'm personally trying to learn through text books (Integrated Chinese) but I'm seriously struggling with characters, specially when trying to write them :confused:
     
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    No problem, I hope it helps!

    For me I had trouble with the characters, but one day it all just clicked, learning characters became the same as learning new words. So it does get easier after a while!

    I think it's because once you know the base characters and radicals, the sounds and radicals start repeating and you can after have an idea of the pronunciation just by looking at the character.

    For writing some people recommend going through Heisig Remembering the Hanzi, but I've never used it personally myself. The problem with it for Chinese it that it doesn't teach the characters in context (words), frequency order, nor their readings.
     
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    thank you so much, thanks to NU, I've become obsessed with chinese web novels. Unfortunately for me, I'm also a total stranger to the language. I did think several times of learning it, but was always put off by the general impression that Chinese is an insanely hard language to learn for non-native speakers. But now I'm determined to give it another go! So thank you so much for that
     
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    I used Heisig for reading, not writing. Personally I felt it was fine. Any approach will have its weaknesses so just pick to the best of your knowledge and keep moving forward.
     
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    Thank you! I have been going through websites but all of them cost a lot of money. But this is a great alternative thank you.
     
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    Thank you for this.
     
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    This is very helpful! Thanks.
     
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    I think some learning app are still will be helpful for beginner (i.e. hello Chinese & Chinese Skill). It can introduce you to Chinese and help you in the first step to learn Chinese (the basic that you need). You should note that it was just for beginner who never learn Chinese. It just from personal impression I get (I am also just learning Chinese)

    And I also agree with learning by reading picture book/ comic. This is also from my experience learning & improving my english from reading translated manga. It was actually originate from my desperate and impatient waiting update in my origin language then resorted to read from the one in English (thought my grammar are dead).:oops::oops:

    And Thanks for the information, it was helpful, I'll check it later (y)(y)(y)
     
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    Can you read xuanhuan/xiaxian novels? Il currently learning Chinese and that's my main goal
     
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    thank you very much!!! :):):):)
     
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    I don't have any problems reading them.

    I think the best way to get there is to simply start with easier genres such as slice of life and then build up your knowledge of being able to read modern Chinese. (you could also simply learn by reading xuanhuan/xiaxian novels too if its not too hard)
    What's nice is that once you get the hang of it, if you don't know a word you can google definition in Chinese and continue enjoying the series.

    When reading you can create own custom deck that will be tailored with all the words for the things you like to read!

    Sorry for the late reply.
     
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    This is great. TYVM.
     
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    This is very helpful. Than you