Discussion Depression VS Depressed

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  1. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    Depression is like when your neighbour lose his job. Being depressed is like when you lose your job. So don't worry, everyone's depressed at some point. You're not the only one. Chronic depression? Acute depression? Everyone can have them at some point in life. People fall into acute depression not because they're genetically predisposed to reaching it, it's mostly because of attitude and the hopelessness of the situation.

    For example:
    1) You are depressed for no reason. You have a job, but you're not happy and constantly brooding about it. Tough luck, everyone's felt this. Nobody's special in this regard. Identify the source of the depression and while you won't be the happiest person in the world, at least you won't fall prey to a neverending spiral. If the source is your job, then find another job. If the source is your family, then leave your family.
    2) You are depressed because of massive debt or someone's death. This is unavoidable. You either suffer from it or you don't. Usually sufferers require outside help to pull them out of this depression. You don't feel depressed because of your genetic, as in you don't automatically become depressed because your father used to feel depressed when his mother died. You feel depressed because of the hopelessness of the situation, as in you don't know what to do, where to go, who to talk to. This is when having caring friends and families help, but they can't help you if they don't know your problem. So talk to them.
    3) You're depressed because you just gave birth. This is unavoidable either. You either suffer from it or you don't. Contrary to popular belief, a happy-go-lucky person isn't resistant to post-partum depression. It hits you like a brick thrown by an unsympathetic bible-thumper. It happens because the woman lacks the energy or motivation to do things she used to do and feel like sleeping is all she can manage. It's a bit more involved than that, but talking about it requires a whole chapter of a textbook. The only thing you can do when you realize your wife is suffering from this type of depression is to remind her that she's strong, lovely and loved. If it requires you to help your wife with housework, do it, but gently try to get her to get off her ass and start doing things she used to do again. Ignoring her condition ensures that she will fall further and further into depression which can lead to alcoholism, child abuse, mental instability and even suicide.

    So if you have a problem with depression, talk it over with your friends and families. Talking with psychiatrists help you understand the problem, but they're not paid to help you get over it. You need your friends and families.

    BTW, I do know how it feels. I was clinically diagnosed for acute depression for 4 whole years, by a certified psychiatrist and took amitriptylene to keep my mood up and deal with my nightmares. However, that did not solve the problem. My problem was actually my father and my failures that started up the problem. Know what helped me? I met my girlfriend Waiwai and moved out of my family home. Waiwai helped me feel loved and she understood my hidden desire to be hugged and kissed and generally be a functional member of the family and society and she encouraged me for every thing I did, just like when I was praised for getting 100 marks on a test when I was a child. I was diagnosed for 4 years because that was how long I went to the psychiatrist. When I moved in with Waiwai, I stopped seeing the psychiatrist and taking amitriptylene. BTW, I'm a bisexual girl.
     
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  2. leo.d.

    leo.d. Well-Known Member

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    I was actually going to address the people who just claim to be depressed because its cool or whatever but others actually do face this problem. I would encourage people who are depressed to talk to someone even if not a professional. While I guess, I self-diagnosed myself, its not just something I decide on a whim, I spent years struggling with myself over my own problem. As for your suggestion, I am one of the most productive people some people know. I am not productive as a human of society but I do what I am told and I get things done. While it does help to get busy, people should also take time to talk to others or even just think about this problem.
     
  3. Saitama.sensei

    Saitama.sensei [[xiantian lifeform]]

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    try watching a comedy.. go out with friends, joke, laugh.. dont sit around all day by yourself or go walking on the beach a lone.. interact with other humans who are nice and funny cause laughter is the best medicine
     
  4. AurumGold

    AurumGold [An Element]

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    Alot of people are facing depression. This is just how society is now. People are being critisise for their looks, race, sexuality. This brings down self esteem. Just know though that there is always someone there for you.

    Growing up you face alot challenges, make mistakes (I made alot). But I choose to accept that and continue on. Just gotta let those feelings go you know, don’t bottle it up. Dunno, scream loudly to the sea.... People there might think ur crazy but it helps :D.

    Dunno where I was going with this but, hey if it helps you, post away dude. This a community of likeminded people. You are welcome to express yourself.
     
  5. Boricua Lunar

    Boricua Lunar The Jaded Wangfei Inquisitive Polymath

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    Noun vs verb?
     
  6. Estarossa

    Estarossa 《Master of Dessert》《Old Timer》

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    Eh, to deal with it is basically just a "change of scenery".

    I was suicidal, stuck in a dead end job, no hopes for the future. Got through Uni, tons of debt.

    Now, got a better job, taking steps to get the one I want. Feel so much better.
     
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    Tramsloof Quarter Erudite

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    Congratulations on being brave and informative, we are proud of you!
     
  8. Cosmic_

    Cosmic_ [Novel Addict] [Lazy Writer] [Meh Editor]

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    There is high-functioning depression which is a type of depression not many take seriously (well in this crappy society some don't even take chronic depression seriously). Mental health is a real and serious issue and yeah, I agree, there need to be more awareness and education on it. It can be rough and I wish you well. I found one thing that helped me was doodling, taking a shower, or sitting outside(just right outside the house worked). I found solace in reading and music. It'll take time especially with how difficult it can be to change your mindset and emotions. Hope things get better and if you ever need someone to just chat, PM me. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    All anyone needs to understand is that we are all worm food.
     
  10. leo.d.

    leo.d. Well-Known Member

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    I am not sure what you are referring to when you say "Eh, to deal with it is basically just a "change of scenery"'. If you are suicidal, that is serious and you should get professional help. If you are referring to what I was saying, then I was addressing who I dealt with my problems. I specifically mention that there are different levels to the word depression. Telling someone to walk on the beach when they have chronic depression would be stupid of me.
     
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    existentialism is fun, i dabbled a bit in it.
     
  12. kekkaishi222

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    I know some of what you feel bro..
    And here i am now, as a Hiki-neet...
    A drop out of 3rd year college student last year, cause of health problem. Facing my days almost entirely in my room. Well, it can be said im still fortunate not to stay in hospital. Heck, even now i can't stay under the sun for more than 15 minutes, since it can cause me a severe headache and dehydration.
    If you think im not depressed about it, then you're wrong. Many of my friends from the same year already been graduate from college. Heck, some of them already married. To be honest I want to be like them. Heck, somehow even i think marriage just became a fleeting dream. Hhaa...
     
  13. lnv

    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    Where I am from, both these issues are solved with drugs. Lots of drugs. (And I don't mean the illegal kind but doctors prescribing drugs). Which is quite sad since these anti-depressants do more harm then good, but hey even a minor fever is solved with drugs.

    Its to the point where every condition is labeled an issue and solved with drugs.

    End of the day, I wouldn't worry about it and just live your life to the fullest. Bad things happen, good things happen but end of the day our sole purpose is to serve our car overlords. At least find some solace in knowing that.
     
  14. leo.d.

    leo.d. Well-Known Member

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    I am glad that you got better and that people in your life took the step and helped you out. One of the biggest step is telling people you have this problem. I agree with most of your statement but I do believe that people do face depression partly because "they're genetically predisposed to reaching it". It is probably never the cause but it can be a factorl
     
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    Nothing really helps dude, it's something people will have to deal with in different ways, I hope you find yours
     
  16. Estarossa

    Estarossa 《Master of Dessert》《Old Timer》

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    You obviously chose to read one part of what I said. Ive been suicidal, up to the point where I had my dads gun to my mouth.

    No dreams for the future, living day to day.
    The only thing keeping me going was that I didnt want to leave my mom with that kind of disgrace.

    "Change of scenery" is the best way i can explain how I dealt with it. Its best to always ask for help but thats not me. I just got lucky, buddy offered me a better job, can pay off my debt, took that chance.

    "Change of scenery"
     
  17. MEGA SPARTA CHICKEN

    MEGA SPARTA CHICKEN Planet sized warrior Tony without wisdom teeth

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    i think of suicide after 8th grade with every attack but i do control it, i say im a burden and everything, even when im in a happy mood and i go take a shower i say 'well damn im fat' (although im not really... about 140 pounds) but i cant exercise, i cant acknowledge the trauma cause it happens every day next to me and im forced to be remind of it
    but heres the weird thing
    i also look at life in extremely optimistic right after each attack so its a contrasting effect right after
    its weird but it balances it out and it also increases my ability to keep emotion hidden (damn just realized haven't cried sense i was 6) as well... well my sleep is still 2-1 hours long...-_-
    heh sharing my problems just seemed to make it heavier...meh
     
  19. Fluffums

    Fluffums 【R-18 Researcher】【Seeker of Moe】

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    ... As someone who's struggled with clinical depression for thirty years, I think that the only difference between "being depressed" and "having Depression" is just a diagnosis from someone with a degree. Someone who's been depressed for a day deserves help as much as someone who's been depressed for a decade (I know there's a technical definition in the DSM but it's just a guideline). And, no matter how bad your depression is, the sooner you start treatment, the faster you'll get better. There's no silver bullet for treating depression because everyone's different, but in general it helps to have a routine and be active, out in the sunlight, and working toward a goal (but that's not possible for everyone).
    The best advice I can give for anyone who's depressed is, learn to recognize when you're going into a downward spiral of negative thoughts then interrupt it with an action and a positive thought. Like... for instance... I tap my head and think about the next time I might have ice cream and what kind of ice cream I might want. Then I can go back to doing whatever I was doing before I got all negative.
     
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    Dori CDLevit.

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    I'm a bit short on time so, I'll write a bit on this topic - as I see it.

    I've made the first real contact with this topic in the past few years and I can say that.. unfortunatelly, many people suffer from depresion, from the 'common'/'usual' kind, the one who's pasing with time, to the one who's the 'serious' one, the one who's life lasting.

    In any you've made the first step and that was to begin to talk and reflect on what depresion means, but, looks like that isn't enough. What you can do next is to read on the topic from a scientific aproach and from a personal perspective. The internet has many articles on the topic and many examples from personal experiences.

    What I can say is that depression isn't choosed by people. We can't choose when to be depressed and when not to be. In the 'common' case, depression fades with time and it can be described, in a way, as a deep sadness that makes a person so tired that he/she'll lack the will to do something and the energy to move his/her live. But, there's also the second type, the one where depression interfers with someone's life at all levels and almost all time.

    Here are some links that may be of help to you:
    - https://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/anxiety-disorders-and-anxiety-attacks.htm
    - https://medium.com/ink-stain/depression-ten-things-you-should-know-f2eb836cf1c1
    - https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/depression/index.shtml
    - https://www.quora.com/topic/Depression
    - https://stackexchange.com/search?q=depression


    Sometimes, ocuppying your mind with physicall activities may be of help. Some people work so much until they become so tired that they won't be able to think at their problems and will just fall asleep. Some concentrate their negativity towards some activities that'll allow them to release them - they'll begin to do a sport, like boxing or some go meditate. Some go towards religion, some search for a group of friends with whom to talk and whom to support themselves.

    In any case, I recommend you to go talk with a specialist. Even if you don't suffer from clinical depresion, at least you'll find the necessary knowledge and you'll be assured of your health condition. If, you'll need profesional help.. it's better if you'll receive it as soon as it's posible. Also, follow the doctors advices, don't stop treatment.

    Good luck!

    Edit:
    - If I'm not wrong, it's recommend for people to sleep at least 7 hours per day;
    - An environmental change can be of help; find out if your environment (room/house and so on) contributes to your mood and see if you can change it. For example, a bad light in my room annoys me and makes me feel gloomy.
    - Surround yourself with people for whom you care and who care for you; having someone with whom you can talk or whom to feel close may be of help;
    - You can 'let' your thoughts and emotions free on paper and after that.. just forget about it. It's an idea similar to the written theraphy and self introspection. You can also.. imagine yourself as an actor and.. your mood at a certain time as a role for you to play.
    - Don't be too hard on yourself. Things are changing and will change, there aren't 2 seconds the same for a person.
    - Don't let yourself be influenced by mean people.
     
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