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    there is no harem TAG, only genre.

    and for that novel, it has been locked (to the way it was originally was) due to excessive back-and-forth addition/removal of said genre.

    if you can briefly explain why it needs Harem genre (instead of not having it), i can re-set it.
     
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    I think there were like three love interests throughout the series...
    Chae Nayun that MC was into but was stopping himself due to what he did to you know who.
    Rachel, but I don't think there was any actual romance, just circumstance.
    Boss which (IIIRC) might be the only one that counts.

    IMO, harem wasn't a main theme.
     
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    The characters Chae Nayun, Yoo Yeonha, Rachel, Boss, and Jin Sahyuk all love the MC. A harem is when 3 or more girls are in love with the MC. So please add the Harem genre to the novel. This novel not being in the harem genre is technically giving false information about the story.
     
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    A "harem" is where you either literally have a harem like an ancient ruler (marry multiple women/concubines) or openly have romantic relationship/affairs. The NE protagonist has romantic relationship with 2 girls over a 5 year period (how long is that novel's story). He sacrifices any relationships for the greater good. He dates one or two others briefly, though these could be considered friendship regardless of what the Princess of England misunderstood. If that is a harem then almost all of us would be harem protagonists at some stage in our lives. Compare with heroes who travel with five women over a 1 year period, actively engaging in romantic dialogue then marry atleast three of them because they "must produce heirs" and still get new female companions lusting after them. You need to draw the line somewhere between the extremes.
     
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    As far as NU cares, Harem means "Multiple Love Interests", not "Multiple Relationships."

    OP seems to point that the former exists, while you seem to be pointing that the latter doesn't... In that case it should get the harem genre.
     
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    The NU is incorrect, because many novel's have love triangles. Yet this novel doesn't even have one because the ex-girlfriend wanted to kill him and the last girlfriend was not recognised until the very end thus they were not simultaneous. There were two other people, both considered the protagonist as having had a "future" relationship (due to misunderstandings about time travel that never happened) but never conveyed or were reciprocated such feelings. The relationships never overlapped.
     
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    Harem as a Genre (as in for literature, spesifically in this case, Asian novels/mangas) is not the same as Harem as in its own word.

    Also, just because a protagonist ends up in polygamy, doesn't mean it is a Harem-genred story. The opposite is also true, which means just because the protagonist ended up in monogamy, or worse, foreveralone, doesn't mean the story is not Harem-genred.

    in simple explanation, the ending (or protagonist's final romantic partner) doesn't dictate the genre, at least not in Harem's case.

    @Grandorus @AliceShiki @LaDyViL @Ral @animefan4004
     
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    At what point are there multiple love interests at the same time? In the school arc nobody except the male hero respects him. As a mercenary he is a recluse and mostly communicates by text messages or in disguise as a villain. Where are the women?
     
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    I suggest you pay attention to the story if you are saying things like that

    https://the-novels-extra.fandom.com/wiki/Harem_Candidate

    Since I showed you why it needs a harem genre, can you please add the harem genre to the novel?
     
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    When?
     
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    "The characters Chae Nayun, Yoo Yeonha, Rachel, Boss, and Jin Sahyuk all love the MC. A harem is when 3 or more girls are in love with the MC. So please add the Harem genre to the novel. This novel not being in the harem genre is technically giving false information about the story."

    Most people who read the novel agree its a harem. There is also the fact that the novel was originally under a harem tag before someone removed it.

    Even Korean People agree it's a harem:
    http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?...wDate=&isShowPopularPosts=false&from=postView

    https://yeopdong.tistory.com/503

    https://www.dmitory.com/novel/77182009
     
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    At what point are Jin, Rachel or Yeonha in love with anybody?
     
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    Yeonha slowly fell in love with Kim Hajin throughout the novel, she even confronts Rachel because she thought Rachel had a child with Kim Hajin.

    Rachel straight up fantasizes about Kim Hajin and having a child with him.

    Jin Sahyuk is constantly shown to be possessive with Kim Hajin and once even fought Boss to take Kim Hajin from Boss. She used to hate him but that eventually became love.

    If you didn't realize that they were in love with Kim Hajin you definitely were not paying attention, it's pretty obvious that they were in love with him.
     
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    Let's unpack this. Rachel really believed the monster child was born in the future based on her logic, quite hilarious but hardly falling in love, but rather motherly feelings. :ROFLMAO:
    Yeonha, logically determined that based on Kim's intimate author knowledge of her dark secret (junkfood) Kim is a returner who must have known her well in the future. However, she does love gossip and secrets like the Princess of England having a child with Hajin. :ROFLMAO: This would be somewhere in the middle of the novel, prior to Boss being romantic with Hajin and while Jin was still axe crazy.

    Jin Sahyuk was possessive of the attention from her former servant. Well, at least she tried to get attention unlike those other girls. We could call that love ...except she probably isn't capable of love as she is an amoral egotistical psychopath and craves respect of her servant she betrayed. She spent most of the novel since her introduction as an axe crazy villain hunting Hajin. :eek:

    Hypothetically, if two people loved the MC (at the same time!) and fight over this, it could fit in the romance genre. It is common to create tension by having a love triangle. Fairly inactive for a romantic arc though, compared to novel's where people are: making romantic advances, confessions, flirting and actively blocking competition. Wouldn't you be dissatisfied if you picked up a novel for harem tag and it was just a bunch of friends with a protagonist that goes on occasional dates like Big Bang theory or How I met your Mother?
     
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    The harem genre isn't well-known for having good romantic development, so I doubt anyone would care about it.
     
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    Since I explained why it needs to be in the harem genre, can you please add it?

    A harem is when 3 or more people are in love with the protagonist. It was pretty obvious that more than 3 girls are in love with Hajin. So, it belongs in the harem genre. If you don't think it is a harem, sure, you can believe that.
     
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    No. We do not believe it meets the requirements for being what we have defined as a harem novel. I have read the novel btw and do not intend on changing my own judgment about the novel.
     
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    I wish this novel was available just looking at this discussion and the passion flowing around lol... Interestingly, the debate here doesn't seem to follow the definition of what the Harem genre entails, but rather if the protagonist himself had a harem through the course of the series, and if it was apparent and specific enough. In such a case, I suggest you set up a poll in a new thread or in the LCD of the novel, asking for the opinions of fellow readers regarding whether or not the novel is a harem novel. Mind you, the mods who have read the novel have been clear on what they feel about the novel, but if you still want to go ahead and try to change the status quo, I guess this is the only case, considering that the novel is no longer listed on NU with active chapter tags and thus, new neutral readers can't read and judge the novel to weigh in on the debate.
     
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