LCD Genjitsushugisha no Oukokukaizouki

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  1. ultragunner

    ultragunner Self-taught Mage

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    Biggest drawback to musketball enchanting will be how small the bullet is. Magically coded musket ball < defense of magically enhanced armor.

    This is not some backwater civilization who doesn't innovate. They just went through war time before Alberto (is that the name?) so the defense and offense of magic is already fairly high. It is already stated that they use arrows due to the ease on enchanting arrows over bullets and with greater effect too. They use cannons because of the larger cannonball so muskets are unfeasible for now. MC is neither a researcher or inventor. He only is a master of governmental work, so he works with what is provided and make what is needed. Muskets aren't needed by a long shot since his military might is still being reorganized.
     
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    There really is no reason that both magic and physics can't be combined to make double attribute attacks of both physical and magical damage. And then someone will invent magical shield that repels anything enchanted, so enchanted bullets become useless, and then someone invents a shield with higher reality than ordinary bullets and they simply wouldn't be able to penetrate it. In the end it would result in whoever has the bigger gun or higher numbers or both will win. Magic is simply another wide scale system with infinite possibilities just like physics, and it takes no less time to research.
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    Only nit I need to pick with your comment, sorry. They use cannons because it's too much trouble to use magic on a ship at sea, too much chance of collateral damage, and it loses you too many mages in defeat.
     
  4. Jinnai.l

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    They already have magic I am more worry about bio warfare now that Lord Souma publish and confirm germ theory.
     
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    Jinnai.l The Jerkaiser, Ruler of 108th dimension,Jinny

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    He would likely join the empire. Remember the empress is not an idiot and sou-Kung know when to take opportunity. Hell, he might even make it to the emperor and trick alt!admonia into falling on their sword. It won't be hard. Trick them into a shady deal then use an excuse to nuke their economy, assignation and coup is possible (war monger are never love) and my favorite, spread narcotic into their country and start watching Armageddon on drug.
     
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    Agreed, Souma don't have resource or time to reorganize his arm force. Gunpowder usage is impractical without proper engineer and material technology which he didn't have so far the best use would be fused greneade
     
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    Eh I don't think he would use drugs...
     
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    ultragunner Self-taught Mage

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    Which the air Force already has to an extent (their bearing bombs). And been stated that it needs to be artillery or won't be worth the effort either.
     
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    Ofcourse he won't during peacetime. It a bad PR moves to every country. But if the demon knocks the empire over and storm (whatever is the current nation's name), the only survival mathod is a) negotiation b) a weapon strong enough to act as a deterrent. Given his knowledge and resource, his only weaponry advantage above the empire is the germ theory and development of anit-biotic (I bet he will try vaccination soon. If that happen biowarfare is a sure bet to push demon back to near extinction. This work before when spain conquer that Aztec. It not gun powder that kill them out. It is the smallpox.
     
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    Thing about bio warfare is that applying them to reality is MUCH MUCH harder than it seems since your troops are more likely to be the first to get hit by your own weapons. Containment is also a problem when dealing with things harmful enough that it can be considered as a weapon on the first place. And with magic stunting growth on biological knowledge, it's much too easy for that weapon to backfire.


    Also on it's most basic premise,bio weapons are useless unless one commits a major atrocity first. No one else knows anything about germs and such they won't fear it unless it is demonstrated. And demonstrating will just make anyone look more evil than their supposed enemies.
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    Too many people obsessed with warfare here, our MC is an administrator, not a general, and he isn't the kind of ruthless that uses bioweapons. He didn't want to rule in the first place, and the other version got to be Prime Minister instead, he wouldn't destroy the country he swore to work for. Once the King and Queen were killed, he probably took Liscia to the Empire, and worked on reforming them, Elfrieden probably got taken by Amidonia anyway.
     
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    Also, the oldest form of bio-warfare has already been done throughout history during "scorched earth tactics" as farmlands are razed and water sources are contaminated with corpses and feces.
     
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    Yep the infamous flying cows. I was kinda impressed how they were even willing to try stuff like that. We are just too creative in thinking of ways to destroy.
     
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    That what I mean by PR the only way he pull that of is he use some thing that easily vaccinate and work on the demon. Finding the desease shouldn't be hard but launching managing the repurcussionn and development is the difficult step. But given the technological knowledge gap , I'am pretty sure a single plauge might be able to push the demon back for 3 years
     
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    Nope. Not gonna work. Even if it is "easy" to find a weaponizable disease, don't forget that possibility of demons having a different physiology compared to humans or even beastmen. Who know how they work biologically? No one will even bother to look or note it since they are behind when it comes to physical sciences due to the need of them progressing in magic as well.

    And who's to say that magic can't cure a properly healthy man who just so happened to be hit by a bio weapon? Don't forget that the reason plauges are feared (in the novel and real life) is due to them having low sanitary standards.
     
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    Just finished binging through the current chapters. Cool novel. Only major demerit's it being a japanese novel, bound by japanese tropes and whatnot. All in all, better than the average, I guess.
     
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    Yeah, him being a push-over really ruins the romance part of the harem. We can't really fault them on it either, since the trope basically got defined by them due to their culture and stuff.
     
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    That why they have to do a test research first. And that why it is even more terrifying. Bio weapon have never been use before in that world. With souma monopolizing anti-biotic and the innovation of vaccination. One shot with bio weapon would bring everyone down and they would be almost powerless to stop it. It wouldn't kill every demon but skew the population enouht for a counter attack.

    And the healing part is done with light magic (my guess is boosting vitality). Basically, that world medical science is in the level of boiling leaves so plague and terminal desease that easy to spread is a total nightmare. They have to let the body immune system do the job. Considering that the plague must be easy to spread, the country magic resource will be exhaust and if they stuff the patient in one room like crimes... let say nightingale won't be able to save them.

    Bio weapon is not about killing healthy men it about weakening the in trench warfare and convince them to go back taking the plague back to tree ciuntry and decimating the population.
     
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    So you spread disease among the "demons," which are basically just magically mutated species, to weaken them, but what happens when that same plague, mutated by the monsters regenerative abilities, spreads back to human lands? You have some forms of antibiotic, but not all antibiotics operate in the same way on different disease strains. On top of that, what if it gets a magic boost, and actually works through your vaccinated population even faster than it does through the other nations?
     
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    You know, there is little to no chance of souma going on a full scale conflict with the "demons" right? The existence of Tomoe already proved that they have their own culture and language so they are sentient but are foreign in culture and language. Souma probably forgot about the "Great Satan" incident in Iraq and US war which got mistranslated and misunderstood for a little while to mean someone other than ol George