Hating NTR but liking harem

Then NTR is consenaual too. Since both the love interest and ntree like eachother

 

You should research about that. Netorare, netori, netorase ect.

 

No ntr is not consensual. You haven't seen ntr if you say that.

 

Ntr itself doesnt imply consensis or lack of it

 

...Netori and Netorare is the act of stealing one's lover/spouse, with the perspective of the one who steals and the one be stolen respectively.

My opinion of NTR stems that the lover is already in love with another, then out came a thief who did horrendous deeds such as blackmail/ threats/ etc etc in order to gain the lover's attention and ultimately the affection.

What OP stemmed from was that how MC gains affections from women that may already have spouse or were engaged to another. The authors did have a solution to that, the women were not actually in love with their engaged blah blah blah and the MC was "rescuing" them. Trope for making a cuckoid to the local arrogant young master.

 

what mean NTR ?

 

Ntr in hentai is that. But NTR in general works is when the love interest leaves MC for someone else.

Go read any manga or novel where the love interest like someone or even talks to someone other then MC. Even if there not together people are people calling it NTR

 

I kinda understand what you mean... probably.
A better analogy would be some readers hating rape victims in one story but liking rape in another story.

 

The arrogant young masters are courting death when they try to rape the local village girl. Yet the MC is raping girls into loving him left and right

 

That's why "rape victim becomes lover" tag is a red flag.

 

Just out of curiosity, genuine curiosity, I've thought for a long time that NTR means quite literally to engage sexual activities to another's love interest/spouse/partner against their conscious will, was I mistaken or was my vocabulary outdated? There're other definitions? @@

 

Ntr explore into fidelity and immorality of the character in relationship, it is of treasonous situation.

Nah ntr is like that it's not just hentai. I have no problem with character interaction that deviate itself away from the MC center and it is not ntr. You don't know ntr at all. Are you a woman perhaps ?

 

You're not mistaken.

 

Having a harem doesn't necessarily mean being in a physical relationship, whereas NTR must include that.
Besides, in a real true to the sense meaning, a harem, the guy is followed by a group of females and that is it.
Here is a meaning close to the actual meaning, that I found(see urban dictionary), since the word isn't of japanese nor western origin.

 

As I said. That's what the meaning of NTR has become in the mind of the general public. And no I'm not a women. Dont know what that has to do with it

 

It is more complex than what you implies. Do girl in most harem story have committal relationship as in being a lover with the mc ? They don't mostly and i don't see the girl getting acquainted and gravitate away from the mc with a nicer man as ntr. Ntr focus on the act of betrayal itself.

 

Lmao a women gets ntr'ed away while the dude simply cheats

 

Nah it's more that they both cheat. But regarding the women its ntr and for the man its "building a harem" and "threesome". NTR is almost never used if it's the the male doing it

 

This kinda confuses me. Let me explain why. In my real life, my step mother fell out of love with my father. She decided to divorce him. After she broke up with him, but before the divorce was finalized, she fell in love with a much nicer guy. My dad still isn’t over it, some fifteen years later, and sometimes acts like her stalker. He acts betrayed. But according to you, since she is with a much nicer guy, this is not NTR. But since he feels betrayed, this is NTR. What...?

 

Now you quoted a good case. Here's a question; dd you not think your dad suspect she has cheated way before they breakups ?