Discussion [Healthy Life] Diabetes Mellitus

okay, now I hope there's lifestyle or healthy sub lounge

Have you ever worried about your lifestyle will affect your future health?
Yea, everyone will think and worry their future's health

but... what did you do?

Actually I have no knowledge about medical expertise but my father got DM (Diabetes Melitus) type 2 since a few years ago
this made me study about DM and to my surprise, I found a girl 10-11yo died cause of DM (no age restriction cheat)

Here's the possibility why DM has a lot of fans :

Spoiler

- heritage, if your parents or grandparents have DM, there's possibility you will get DM with 6x higher probability
- high carbohydrate, things like white rice, things using lot of flour, or potatoes (yea no kidding, they have high carbohydrate)
- surprisingly, canned food, canned beverage, softdrink (pepsi, 7up, etc)
- rarely exercise <--- yea its not just DM, all kind of disease too
- fast food such as french fries, burger, pizza, and all you can order
- not balanced diet
- alcohol, not sure but my father loves alcohol and I have listen someone at hospital, there's high possibly there and more debates on it, but better beware of it

as to sugar, nope, they are not the main reason of DM, I was told by a professor that DM is caused by low insuline from pancreas, and lots of sugar will not affect pancreas directly
if the pancreas is damaged, the insuline productivity will decreased, worse case, it will cease to function (insuline is like enzyme that produced to 'eat' carbohydrate, change it to sugar, and it will be distributed by your blood throughout your muscles)
in that condition, no matter medicine you use, its hopeless as medicine will have no effects

simple reasoning, medicine > stimulate pancreas to work harder like a slave > more insuline
DM > broken pancreas, medicines lost his servant > no insuline produced >use flexpen to import insuline

these are some sign indicates of DM (well not specific as type 1 or 2, but this is the most common one):

Spoiler

- feel really really REALLY tired, my father even sleep 12-15 hours a day
- some will lost weight drastically (my father lost 20 kilos in a week, don't try this even if you a model)
- your skin dried
- your eyesight reduced
- no matter how much water you drink, it seems never enough for you
- if you got wounds, it's healed way slower than normal (the higher your sugar in your blood, the longer it will be healed)
- you still want to eat when you finished your meal
- your urine smell different (if you have smell real corpse starting to decay, then its the same)

the recommendation is, consume 40-60% of carbo from your diet, stimulate your metabolism by physical activities, and allow your body to relax
simple explanation = consume vegs or low fat meat first then carbohydrate food as filler if you still hungry, exercise, sleep

DM will attract lots of dangerous disease, the most common are heart disease, cholesterol, and cataract eye
said, DM's patient will never be cured (for type 2 case, if medicine have no effect, then it is impossible) so take care your body seriously

honestly, I suffer from temptation of changing high carbo meal, cause I'm someone that using white rice as main food but since I have DM bloodline, I will change that little by little

what about you?
*source = compilation of my personal understanding and memories

 

- high carbohydrate, things like white rice, things using lot of flour, or potatoes (yea no kidding, they have high carbohydrate)
- surprisingly, canned food, canned beverage, softdrink (pepsi, 7up, etc)
- rarely exercise <--- yea its not just DM, all kind of disease too
- fast food such as french fries, burger, pizza, and all you can order
- not balanced diet

Well shit. I tend to eat a lot of carbs because they're cheap and I'm a poor student That and not very much meat, i'm not a vegetarian or anything but meat is quite expensive where I live so it's easier to fill the holes with stuff like chickpeas and kidney beans. There's no particular health issues in my family except high cholesterol but mine is ok. I've been trying to up vegetables but there's only so much you can do. I do like greens quite a bit though (especially broccoli and spinach) so I try and eat them as much as possible.

Balanced though? Nope.

 

I think we just got a health adviser....^.^

 

its basically the basic, there's more in depth about what kind of food and high carbo things that's safe for diabetes patient

well, most ppl on forum are productive age and I believe I'm too lazy to put my attention on what I eat too much
that's why I think this matter is good to be discussed and gain attention

anyway, reality is harsh, I prob will get DM too in future (if only this disease not heritage thing T^T)

 

We got another doctor...
And, oh no... some of the symptom fits me... Even though I'm a zombie...

 

no, you are indeed smell like corpse but, your body still produces urine?

 

Actually my brother inflicted with it when he was 11 years old.. He fall into a coma but survived.. He's going to be a doctor for the same reason..

Thanks for the effort to create this useful threads amidst the chaos here.. Appreciate it..

 

can't avoid white rice here, its staple food everyday.
as for canned foods, carbonated drink and soft drink rarely touch it.
also @Potato is actually better than white rice, white rice > @Potato in carbohydrates. so someone create white rice account!

 

Please note this is a serious post so please no off topic and no hijacking this thread..

My brother first sign of DM was his urges to pee at night.. He could go ten to twenty times to toilet.. If this happened to you, you should be careful too..

 

Well I am a General Practitioner in Real Life.
Yes DM is really bad. So if your father or mother is over 45 years old please took them to get their Fasting Blood Sugar level monitored. You just need to make them not ingest anything other than plain water for 8 hours before taking abit of blood.

The classical DM triad is:
1. Polyuri : the patient urinate frequently, often woken up from sleep in the night just to urinate.
2. Polydypsi : the patient aleays feel thirsty even after they drink a lot of water. This is because they lost so many fluid from urination and also because the high blood sugar increase blood osmolarity and it messed with the brain center which regulate thirst.
3. Polyphagi : the patient always feel hungry and like to snack becaus of that. This is because although the blood had so many sugar, the cells couldnt use them due to the relative insulin deficiency caused by the combination of decreased insulin sensitivity and production.

Some of the diabetes emergency you should know :
1. Hypoglycemia : DM patients always took their drugs to lower their blood sugar but oftentimes they missed their meal. This can makes their blood sugar level drop to such a level that make the brain stop working properly and cause fainting or unconsciousness. Get them to Hospital ASAP to test their blood sugar and get a 50mL glucose shot
2. Ketoacidosis and Hyperosmolar Hyperglycemic State. Both of this conditions are caused by too high blood sugar level. This is mainly affect DM type 1 (like @Ldyrdy brother) or poorly controlled adult DM type 2 patients. The therapetic of these conditions are properly amount of continous insulin to bring tyis dangerously high sugar level to a safer range. This means get them to a hospital ASAP.

Any more question?

 

actualy, white rice, grains, organic rice, red rice, refined one, etc have different amount of carb
I went to a seminar and they said the tasty you feel the rice, the higher carb contained within

eh? it's serious? no I mean I just want to remind everyone here to be careful since no kindergarten students here or full wrinkles face people here

I'm sorry for your brother, yea its hard to live on imported insuline (daily insuline shot, needle for every meal and before sleep ~_~)
btw, is Yuk*beep* is your brother?

 

.. He is not blood brother but you could say he is my brother..

No, what I mean by saying that, this info can be useful so its best id we didn't see the usual HT member commenting about some useless things where some people may find this thread useful..

If they want to HT there are still more threads on the site and we could always create new..

 

KTKR!!!
umm my father is 70 next year
yea we got the tool here, my father checks his blood sugar twice a day (sometimes thrice)

as for diabetes emergency you explained, my father have both in one day
sometimes at morning, he get less than 80 points on the scale
at afternoon, his record is out of meter (600+)

both in case my father didn't digest anything in last 4-5 hours

I already told my father this won't do, but at that age, I avoid stress on him as much as possible (yea he hate complicated thing)
I bring my father to different doctor and receives his sermon for hours after go home
by the way, did I tell you 4 doctors give up (because of his temprament and stubborn behavior)
even our family and his friends can't change his mind

@everyone
beware of alcohol, yeast or alcoholic things is said to take part on DM said one of my father's doctor

 

Why should we worry? People have small lifespan, meaning we have small lives so enjoy it to the fullest.
Healthy lifestyle doesn't guarantee you to live long cause this world is too cruel,
what if you are hit by a stray bullet? what if you bit by a stray dog? what if you are killed by a stray man?
or killed by the legendary truck-kun?

So people, please live your life to the fullest.
Share the love people.

 

My old friend die of diabetics 9 years ago, and my best friend now 43yo is DM, who eats everything and anything like i do but I normally adept to : breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dinner like a beggar.. My breakfast will be a lot of white rice(unpolished) / noodles and protein, lunch (if any) will 1/4 of white rice & 2 portions of vegetables and fish or white meat & dinner will be fruits or boiled vegetables. And for clean up, my morning drink on empty stomach is lemon juice and before i sleep is Japanese green tea.
Every life worth living and we only live once, eat in moderation does helps a lot in taking care of our health and that doesn't count my binge eating

 

this is the very reason reincarnation genre and mature seems flourishing nowdays

eat is one thing from many aspects, after all, we need healthy life, including exercise, absorbing nutrients, genetics, state of mind, external exposure (smokes?), etc
eating is not a guarantee but the most common thing you do (you can not exercise a day or week but not eating )

 

... ... I think I should be more carefull, there is diabetes in my father's family

 

Well DM, hypertension and hypercholesterolemia patients can be very stubborn. So I can understand your feelings.
Since your father age is beyond 65. The DM management is not about preventing the organ complications but more about make sure the blood glucose don't went too low or too high. But it really hard to personalize a diabetic diet. Do he like to eat oat, whole grain food, or legume? Wholegrain digested slowly so it can help keep the sugar blood level to not increase nor decrease rapidly.
Avoid refined food like white bread or starchy snacks, refined sugars, or processed meat. Refined food can be easily digested and cause blood glucose to increase rapidly.
What your father DM insulin regiment looked right now? Is it one shot at the night plus three shots for each meals? What oral hypoglicemic drug he took right now? Had you measured the HBA1c level?

So that I at least can reach 100 years and still healthy and sober enough to enjoy what the future world can offer me. I want to live longer even for a second not because I'm afraid of death, rather than I'll regret if I can't finished all the limited time event and the Easter eggs that this giant VRMMORPG called "LIFE" can offer to me before my subscription time finished.
(^_^)

If your age is above 45, please visit a pharmacy or doctor to get your blood glucose monitored.
If you are obese and above 30, please visit a pharmacy or doctor to get your blood glucose and cholesterol level monitored.

 

Hmm,

I met a doctor once who can reverse some pretty nasty conditions such as stroke, heart problems, etc. my family suggested her to my neighboor who has a blocked artery. Heart specialists told him if he dont do the ring procedure, he could have a heart attack coz its blocked by80%.

In any case, he went to the doctor (i ll call her the nutritionist from now on), and the nutritionist told him to get rid of all the medicines hes eating and change his eating habbits from carb based diet to vegetable based one. No red meat, milk, carbo, fried food and sugar drinks. Eat vegetables, fruits, chickens and fish... And plenty of water. Meanwhile, she injects him with plenty of vitamins once a week.

After going there for 2 months, my neighboor checked back to his heart specialist. The specialist was dumbstruck coz his blockage was gone.

I asked the nutritionist about some of the things she recommended.....she said people have problems differentiating disease and conditions. Flu is a disease, increased body temp is a condition. So lots of people just take medicine to reduce the heat and try to go on working. That wont work well coz the body heat is telling you to rest.

What she was saying, this whole debacle about heart disease and stroke and what have you... Is a condition which is caused by us eating the wrong things. So you dont eat cholesterol medicines, blood pressure medicines, and diabetes medicine to improve yourself, but you have to change what you eat.

If you ask her are there special circumstances? Yes there are. Sometimes people are born with deficiencies, but she said if it takes 20+ years to show up, she said 80% of the time its not genetic, but due to the same habbits between parents and child. If it is not fixed, the damage to the body can be carried on to the offsprings, and eventually your lineage wont produce anymore.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tan...hrome-mobile&espv=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-US#imgrc=_

Thats the link to the doctor. Shes in Indonesia.
If you are going there, mind you she has a bit of a temper. Shes a good person really, she looks mad coz most of the time people who comes to her are usually in self denial of their own problems. She yells a lot to fix that. If you can follow her instructions, you can reverse your conditions like my neighboor. Btw, hes not the only one she has healed. I had a relative once who got diabetes and kidney failure, she was on a wheelchair due to problems with blisters on her feet. She reversed the conditions in 6 months. Kidney went to borderline conditions, blood sugar reduced without medicines, and she started walking again. Unfortunately she couldnt stay on the diet, and she went back to her previous condition after 1 year, and died 2 years after stopping the diet due to kidney failures coz she was retaking the medicines. I had people who testified recovering from strokes, heart attacks, etc.

I sure hope this is beneficial to all of the people who are having problems.