Discussion Heavy weapons

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by criticalmind, Apr 27, 2016.

  1. rozenmaiden

    rozenmaiden Well-Known Member

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    Well, don't mind it. Why? because f*ck logic! Well, let's say they are a kryptonian that fall into another dimension by truck-kun.
     
  2. voydom

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    It's not a matter of just heavy weapons. All cultivators have to learn how to disperse impact and force, period. Imagine a punch that hurts a cultivation god, let's say it has weight of a ton and speed of thousand meters per second ... every action has a reaction. Where does the reaction force goes ? I imagine it's similar to flying. Cultivators that can fly can also negate gravity, just based on their cultivation. Same way they should be able to negate these heavy pressures.

    Other explanation can be that they use qi to "grip" and strengthen what they are in contact with. Imagine qi roots spreading from your feet.
     
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  3. wolfeinstein24

    wolfeinstein24 [Practioner of the Daos of Lurking and Leeching]

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    There was no Newton to tell them the laws of physics.
     
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    Phantom Starlight The Guiding Light

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    Through the power of face. It is why they are all so desperate to be given some.
     
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  5. Glaurung

    Glaurung Long Member

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    @criticalmind I understand where you're coming from.

    It's not about weight- it's about balance.

    Assume that the the mc is a crane (construction vehicle)- if you load the end with too much weight, the crane topples over.

    Same with the sword that weighs more than 5x the mc- if he swings it, he should topple over. Because physics right?

    If it was a japanese novel- they might address this with earth-locking boots or something.

    Now xianxia is about grandiose exaggerations (well most are). So having weapons that weigh 500 to 10,000 jin is normal. If you can believe people flying or emitting fire... Then a suspension of belief is required.

    Hell, they strike an enemy and he flies 500 meters! Shouldnt the mc also be sent flying almost the same distance by the force of his strike? Even in western cinemas- getting shot by a gun sends the victim flying.
    Cinematics > Physics
     
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  6. KainMori

    KainMori in relationship with novels

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    because rule of cool.
     
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    DarkArts ✫ First Ancestor of the Assassin Sect ✫

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    Physics? Seriously? You're talking about physics when you're referring to fantasy novels? You have magic and all kind of special skills and cultivation techniques and flying and teleportation and all kind of phenomenons and you're questioning why a person can freaking lift a few jin of weight...
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    Well, duh... that's why!?!?
     
  8. ero madoshou

    ero madoshou MOAR... MOAR!!!!

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    well they have heavenly lightning tribulations, sentient herb, flying swords, and huge demon beast so i think that the MC can carry a weapon a couple hundred of Jin heavier than him is the least of your worry.
     
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    Blackyy Lurking more Comment less

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    Common sense doesn't work in Chinese novel ...
     
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    LivingCorpse Half-dead Neighborhood's Undead

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  11. false

    false Today is always the best day ever~

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    Where do you get your qi root idea?
     
  12. voydom

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    Not sure if I remember it correctly, but I think it comes from Sousei no Aquarion.
     
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    Cupcake Ninja [Kind Sage][Lord Benevolence][ The Great Paragon]

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    I just wonder how the weapons dont sink into the damn ground, or how the MCs who wield them dont cause the ground to shake with their steps when carrying such a massive amount of weight.
     
  14. J.R.

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    Generally the idea is that weapons like this are only wield-able with sufficient control of ki, The whole point of cultivation in these novels is to consume the energy of heaven and earth to become a little mini cosmology of your own. XianXia cultivaters are simply, when you boil it down, reality warpers.

    The stronger they are the more they can warp reality. So if they thing "this can happen", and they've got the force to slap reality down when it tries to enforce "tensile strength" and "balance" and "common sense", then reality has to slink back to making sure pratfalls go off without a hitch.
     
  15. Enigma

    Enigma Follower of Jesus, he's the only way

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    Yeah I always try not to think about this in xiaxian, but hey I don't read them for there spot on logic anyways~
     
  16. RedKaiser

    RedKaiser [PATH OF HEAVEN] [RULER OF ALL]

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    For that reason they train..
    Logically,,ant can lift things 50x heavier than itself..
    Human can but died after that..